teleg Scottish language channel

ijc

Does anyone know if the Scottish language channel TeleG is available on Sky Digital in Ireland - if at all. I notice Mike 1972 listed it at 120 in his dream epg on this thread.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=130703
If it is available on Sky, I would be interested in seeing what it looks like as I think they show Ros na Run. However I've never seen it listed on Lyngsat. Here's a link to Teleg' s website.
http://www.teleg.co.uk/week50.html
THanks IJC

Mossy Monk

it's not available

ijc

it's not available

Thanks - that's what I thought. But does anyone know why. It can't be a rights issue problem. They don't show programmes like Survivor - just Gaelic language stuff.

SRB

At a guess, cost !

DMC

And only for an hour a day too.

Its only on Digital Terrestrial (Freeview) in Scotland, no idea why its not on Sky Digital.

ijc

Ok. Thanks guys.

Mike 1972

Sorry if I caused any confusion I ment It SHOULD be on satellite expecially since
1) Its (AFIK ?) publicly funded and therfore should be universally available
2) Many parts of Scotland cant get DTT/Freeview

Sin e an Fear

TeleG is indeed not available on SkyDigital, or even on cable in Scotland. It uses the same frequency as S4C in Wales. S4C Digidol does, apparently carry Ros na Run with Welsh subtitles, but TeleG doesn't carry TG4 programmes AFAIK. BBC1 Scotland only carries children's programmes in Gaelic, BBC2 carries programmes in Gaelic some evenings, but Grampian and Scottish are less predictable.

Scottish language channel

There is a language related to English known as Scots, Lallans or Doric , and a language related to Irish known as Scottish Gaelic (Gaeilge na hAlban or ). Scots (Béarla na hAlban or Albanis) Gàidhlig . Scottish Gaelic is sometimes known in Scots as Erse, or 'Irish'. Tá Gaeilge agamsa agus tha Gàidhlig agamsa.

There is also something known as ... Ulster Scots or Ullans...

Fair faa ye - be yis hame or awa - tae tha wabsteid o tha Boord o Ulstèr-Scotch.

Tha Boord o Ulstèr-Scotch is obligatit tae fordèr an big up tha Ulstèr-Scotch leid an fowkgates.

Ulstèr-Scotch haes maistlie fendit as nae mair nor a wye o taakin doon tha yeirs, sae tha leid-biggin work is jist begoud. A brave pile o wark is needit yit, like pittin a wurd-buik or dictionar thegither, an giein stannèrts fur tha modrèn tung.

Tha Boord haes a mind tae uise Ulstèr-Scotch on tha wabsteid fur tae gie mair licht tae aa landèrs leukin tae lairn mair aboot tha leid.

A warm welcome to the Ulster-Scots Agency's website whether you are at home or abroad. The Ulster-Scots Agency is responsible for promoting and developing the Ulster-Scots language and culture.

Ulster-Scots as a language has survived mainly as an oral tradition so its development process has just begun. There is considerable work yet to be undertaken to compile a dictionary and standardise its use.

It's the Agency's intention to use Ulster-Scots on the website to inspire and inform.

DMC

Originally posted by Sin e an Fear
Tha Boord haes a mind tae uise Ulstèr-Scotch on tha wabsteid fur tae gie mair licht tae aa landèrs leukin tae lairn mair aboot tha leid.

For a second there I thought that was l33t hax0r sp33k! :D

Mike 1972

"Scots" and "Ulster Scots" are not really languages at all but dialects of English (just like Jamacian, Cockney, Jive etc)

Similarly the Irish "language" is a dialect (or rather group of dialects) of a language also spoken in parts of Scotland (and in parts of England in the distant past)

These "dialects" have been promoted to the status of "languages" for mainly political reasons. This isint to say that Irish and Ulster Scots culture (of which the dialects are a part of) are any less desirable or valid but we shouldnt kid ourselves.

It would definitely be a good thing if TG4 and Tele G were both available FTV on satellite as it would help Gaelic speakers in Ireland and Scotland to connect more

jaggiebunnet

"Scots" and "Ulster Scots" are not really languages at all but dialects of English (just like Jamacian, Cockney, Jive etc)

Wrong, wrong and thrice wrong.

I don't know about Ulster Scots, but Scots was spoken before English in Scotland and was only crushed out as the main language when the King of Scotland wanted English spoken in his court and it then propogated across the country from there.

DMC

Lets get back on topic now, lads.

ijc

I hadn't checked this thread in a while. It's good to see it has aroused some interest at last. Yeah I don't see why if s4c can be on Sky that Teleg cant.
I always wondered why they used the long winded term Scots Gaelic and not simply Scottish thanks for setting me straight, Sin e an Fear.

There is a language related to English known as Scots, Lallans or Doric , and a language related to Irish known as Scottish Gaelic (Gaeilge na hAlban or ).

Mossy Monk

Originally posted by ijc
I don't see why if s4c can be on Sky that Teleg cant

it has got to be the broadcasting hours. S4C Digidol broadcast 12+ hours per day whereas its Scottish counterpart only broadcasts for an hour a day. it would be economically unviable

culabula

"Similarly the Irish "language" is a dialect (or rather group of dialects) of a language also spoken in parts of Scotland (and in parts of England in the distant "

This can hardly go unchallenged....

Irish is a language, dialects of which were introduced a few hundred years ago into both Scotland and the Isle of Man. Scottish Gaelic is a dialect of Irish not the other way around.

Celtic languages have certainly been spoken in both England and Wales and to this day Welsh survives. Irish is of course related to welsh but is a totally different strain (q-Celtic) to welsh which is p-Celtic.

Most cultures name themselves after what others call them; thus the word Gael and Gaelic caome from what the Welsh called the invading. marauding Irish: 'gwyddel' or *wild* which bacame gaedheal in Irish and eventually Gael.

Scottish Gaelic and the Irish language are mututally comprehensible (with a little effort) -Welsh and Irish are not.

É

icdg

All right, back on topic now!