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Tournament 1. (January 2004)

  • 14-12-2003 1:41pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,335 ✭✭✭


    Éomer
    Emboss
    Kif
    Azezil
    Echomadman
    Rnger
    Henbane
    DapperGent
    MrNuked
    Wasabi
    Utility_
    Sarge
    Eirebhoy
    Shaque attack
    CodeMonkey
    Brianon
    Alany
    Dataisgod
    Konix

    That makes 19, which is an odd number.

    I am currently devising an exact order for the tournament. Will update this soon.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 989 ✭✭✭MrNuked


    I suggest a random 6 entrants play an extra round, so there are then 16 players left, which is easy to organise.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 15,001 ✭✭✭✭Pepe LeFrits


    Or just don't play a knockout system. Swiss would work fine, 1 by each round.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,335 ✭✭✭Éomer of Rohan


    See the point is, we need to play a lot of games simultaneously to fit a competition into a month.

    Kif, if you would be so good as to outline your proposals.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 15,001 ✭✭✭✭Pepe LeFrits


    Someone explained how the swiss system works in one of the other threads.

    Basically all the players are randomly (works best if seeded) drawn against each other in the first round. Winners get 1 point, draws 0.5 and losses 0. In the second round, those on 1 point are drawn against each other, 0.5 against eachother and so on. In the third round those on 2 play eachother (or a 2 vs 1.5 or 1 if there is an uneven number of people on 2 points). Usually they'll play for 6 rounds. Nobody can play each other more than once. It works well because everyone plays players of similar abilities, everyone plays against their nearest rivals, you can have a huge number of players taking part, and it doesn't drag on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,335 ✭✭✭Éomer of Rohan


    1. Éomer
    2. Emboss
    3. Kif
    4. Azezil
    5. Echomadman
    6. Rnger
    7. Henbane
    8. DapperGent
    9. MrNuked
    10. Wasabi
    11. Utility_
    12. Sarge
    13. Eirebhoy
    14. Shaque attack
    15. CodeMonkey
    16. Brianon
    17. Alany
    18. Dataisgod
    19. Konix

    Did this with a calculator.

    3 vs 13
    14 vs 1
    19 vs 4
    8 vs 6
    17 vs 15
    2 vs 10
    7 vs 12
    5 vs 11
    (edit) 18 and 9 (/edit)

    which left the last number to be picked as 16.

    Then re-added that in to play against another random player - which came out at 3.
    (used the random button and rounded up all the >.5 and down all the <.5's.

    So player 3 then I presume gets to play twice and counts the higher of his two scores?

    If I am correct here, from reading your post, what happens now is that all these people have to play games and establish points - which then enables Round 2 to begin based on the pairings of winners with winners and so on. How does one account for the additional player in Round 2?


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  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 15,001 ✭✭✭✭Pepe LeFrits


    Aye, the next round can't be drawn until all the games from the previous round have finished.

    If there is an odd number of players 1 player every round gets a by (doesn't play and recieves 1 point). It evens out as if the player isn't very good he will lose the next game against a good player, and if he is a good player then he would have won his first game anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,335 ✭✭✭Éomer of Rohan


    Right, so the official playlist is:

    3 vs 13 (Eirebhoy vs Kif)
    14 vs 1 (Shaque Attack vs Éomer)
    19 vs 4 (Konix vs Azezil)
    8 vs 6 (Dapper Gent vs Rnger)
    17 vs 15 (Alany vs Codemonkey)
    2 vs 10 (Emboss vs Wasabi)
    7 vs 12 (Henbane vs Sarge)
    5 vs 11 (Echomadman vs Utility_)
    18 and 9 (Dataisgod vs MrNuked)

    with Brianon getting a by-ball for this round, right?

    So, we can start the ball rolling?


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 15,001 ✭✭✭✭Pepe LeFrits


    Yeah. You have to be careful about who is placed first in the match ups as it indicates who plays white. IE 1 v 2... 1 is white. You also have to ensure that over the course of the 6 games that everyone plays at least 2 games as white, ideally 3.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 921 ✭✭✭Shaque attack


    I haven't been paying attention 4 d past while how and when exactly are we playin :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭azezil


    blimmeh i best start practicing, havn't played in a while, oh just so u know i'm a good looser but if i win there will be dancing, pointing and a lot of 'haha u loose' :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,335 ✭✭✭Éomer of Rohan


    Shaque - we are playing over Yahoo and the games can begin immediately but the Tournament will begin officially in January.

    I will help as much as possible by sending messages to those who have signed up to the Yahoo group, to remind them that they have to play - but it is also the responsibility of a player to remind his partner however he can.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,560 ✭✭✭Woden


    ok is there any specific software we need for this like yahoo messenger?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,335 ✭✭✭Éomer of Rohan


    We don't actually need Yahoo Messenger, and I for one don't have it; all we need is a Yahoo games account for which no software is required.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭Iago


    Hi,

    I'd be interested in playing in some of these tournaments, if you let me know when the next one is happening would love to get involved.

    Cheers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭Emboss


    when are these games going to get underway ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,184 ✭✭✭neuro-praxis


    /me looks up hopefully?

    Am I too late?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,266 ✭✭✭Rnger


    Seriously lads, i suggest we get crackin.

    PM your opponent and set up the game post haste!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭Yavvy


    I have PM'ed my opponent and he has not replied. I presume i get a walk over or... Im happy to neuro-praxis :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭Yavvy


    Whats the Fùking story ??????? has everyone suddenly gone off chess. ????????????









    HEllOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,414 ✭✭✭✭Trojan


    Why not also play pick up games on this board?

    X posts saying they want a game starting today, Y replies and then they sort out venue & time.

    Quite simple. Can reply afterward with result and movelist too for the craic.


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  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 15,001 ✭✭✭✭Pepe LeFrits


    hm


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 437 ✭✭casper-


    Just out of curiosity ... did this tournament get started? I haven't played in a while (i.e. chess club in high school) but I'd still enjoy trying out a game or two :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭Yavvy


    no it never got started sadly. we need someone with the time to organise it.

    however if you want a game or 2 on yahoo.com I would be happy to play. Im pretty bad...so you will enjoy winning ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 989 ✭✭✭MrNuked


    Need to set a time of the week for the games I think. Nobody can be bothered to organise the gamnes between each other.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 199 ✭✭Doctor Funfrock


    when dos tournament 2 start ,?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 281 ✭✭Stephen Forde


    im not sure if it was already said but where will it be held? ie what website?


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