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10 year plan for the Irish nation

  • 11-12-2003 07:56PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 237 ✭✭


    The idea here is to spam this thread to death..... or not..... hopefully but to actually think about Ireland and where she will be in ten years time. A great many threads here look back and moan or complain about what is going on now.Lack of infrastructure, formal enquiries into planning, chuch abuse, rip off Ireland etc. I know that looking into past helps shape future, but we should look into the future sometimes. Do we look forward with confidence ? Will things be better or worse?

    For example where we will be in relation to
    religion- will the declining numbers of RC mass goers continue, will there continue to be less priests? Will we actually see closed RC churches as happened to COI churches that were eventually taken over and used as community halls, garden centres and the like?

    crime- will we all be tagged and monitored under some EU scheme?

    peace- will the same old 'hotsposts' be hot? Will NI still have violence?

    taxes- up or down?

    infrastructure- will we be any nearer to quality public transport or will we all still be in a traffic jam depite much wider roads?

    confidence in the future- will we be emigrating again for a better life?

    drugs- will they be more or less available- some legalised?

    education for children? if there are less children to be educated will they get better facilites and better quality

    IT- will we all be broadband or will that be out of date replaced by wi-fi or the like
    will laptops be the size of palm tops and finally be voice activated Will robots really have become widely availableand useful

    Medicine- will cancer be cured and will the next new human killer be on the scene


    I could go on- perhaps we need a forum.. if anyone is interested that is of course!
    or does it really matter? Que sera sera?
    Love to hear your views:rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,959 ✭✭✭✭Villain


    religion- Catholic church will start closing churches due to the number of priests decreasing.

    crime- will be completely out of control, armed police units will be needed a lot more

    peace- NI will have a Majority of Nationlists causing Unionist hardcore groups to become a huge threat. The IRA will be fully decommisioned and the breakaway groups will become less promient.

    taxes- will be higher due to Capital projects going way over budget

    infrastructure- Dublin will be a no go area unless you park outside the city and take the Luas. Nationwide things will improve but Tolls will be very high

    confidence in the future- Not much, the High Tech industires will leave in their droves due to the rising costs here and the availablity of high skilled employees in low paying regions like India.

    drugs- Hash will be legal, Heroin and coke will be completely rampant and uncontrolable

    education for children? Much the same but more streamline with the small local schools closing

    IT- In the cities Broadbrand will be a given, in rural locations only available by satellite.

    Medicine- Aids won't be cured and will be killing more and more people, cancer while it won't be fully curable, will be more treatable


  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,842 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    Originally posted by ur mentor
    will we all be broadband or will that be out of date replaced by wi-fi or the like
    Originally posted by irish1
    In the cities Broadbrand will be a given, in rural locations only available by satellite.
    <rant>

    I was going to let ur mentor's post go, but irish1 up and compounded the error. [php] Broadband != DSL [/php] Talking about broadband being "out of date" or "replaced by wi-fi" is meaningless. Even leaving aside the technical meaning of the word, as a colloquial term it simply means fast, always-on connectivity - how could it be "replaced" by wi-fi or anything else?

    Rural locations will have broadband, in a hell of a lot less than ten years, and it won't (except maybe in some very extreme cases, but probably not even then) be by satellite.

    It also won't be DSL, but that's another story.

    </rant>


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,959 ✭✭✭✭Villain


    Originally posted by oscarBravo
    <rant>

    Rural locations will have broadband, in a hell of a lot less than ten years, and it won't (except maybe in some very extreme cases, but probably not even then) be by satellite.

    It also won't be DSL, but that's another story.

    </rant>

    I can Gurantee you that Where I live we won't have Broadband in 10 years, I'd be willing to bet my life on it!!!

    oh and satellite is already available

    http://broadband.digiweb.ie/
    :p:p:p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Mystic Mikes crystal balls predict a country where parking tickets are purchased at every slip road onto the M50
    where most of drug infested Dublin 1 & 2 are walled off from the rest of the world using Tribunal Interim Reports stacked 200 high and bound with the thongs of failed
    girl groups.

    A country where the police simply avoid most of west Dublin and all of east Limerick, where Medicine is availible only to those with BUPA or VHI or at the end of a gun barrel (see drug infested Dublin 1 & 2).

    Religion is practiced by secret cabals via web-cam links from the Revolutionary Catholic Church main bunker somewhere under Maynooth. Which must mean we'll have cheap broadband at least! Yipeee :eek:


    Mike.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 914 ✭✭✭Specky


    and bound with the thongs of failed

    MMMMMMMMMMmmmmmm.....suddenly the future doesn't sound so bad after all


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 914 ✭✭✭Specky


    ......I am, of course, assuming you don't type with a lisp??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    No lisp, deffo no lisp.

    Mike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    We start paying money back into the EU funds at a rate of approximately one billion euro per annum in what, 2006? 2008?

    So in ten years?
    Does anyone else remember the 80's in Ireland? Because if you don't you'll be getting a first-hand look at what it was like, assuming you're not working in the UK, Oz or Canada.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Psssht! It wont be like that this states economic well being so sooooo much better than 20 years ago, (we are paying over a billion € into the pension fund every year at the moment and yes I can think of places that might be well spent right now I can also
    see how the same money could be saved just through better governence).

    In the 80s the big drag on the states finances was interest on the national debt, the costs of unemployment, and clever ppl who could generate wealth leaving by the shipload none of which apply now.

    Mike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 237 ✭✭ur mentor


    Its interesting looking back to look forward. I got my first mobile in 1987. It was an 088 analogue and had crap coverage, weighed a tonne and cost a fortune. now all the kids have them with over 85% of population having one- in less than 10 years., plus they are now digital. What will next ten years bring?
    when I left college 75% of my class emigrated to USA, Oz and canada. I applied for Canadian papers myself. now we have net migration into Ireland with over 50k work permits for non nationals. it used to be called a brain drain. we had educated (at great expense) a bunch of people to go to US. I picked my college course because the degree from NUI was recognised by many US states. will guys and girls in Eastern Europe pick courses that will be recognised here? Certainly my very few Polish friends would love to work here. Will the next ten years see over 200,000 work permits?
    My first house cost me over 4 times my salary, interest rates were fixed at 12% and my solicitor told me it was the first AIB home loan he had done in several years. the big lenders were the building soc.s Banks didnt do home loans Interest rates are under 4% and osues still cost about 4 times salary. I think the ESRI recently reported that depite high headline prices houses are as affordable as ever, if not more so. Does this mean house prices will contnue to rise as wages rise?
    Of my Leavingcert class 5 went into study for priesthood. 3 completed and are still priests. since then there have been less than 15 ordained from the school- in 15 years. If that continues it will be 2-3 a decade. There are no longer any religious teachers in the school- there were 6 when I was there.
    The difference between the poor and rich has widened enormously. while the numbers of really really poor have been greatly reduced the wealth of the rich appears to have grown at a completely different rate. If this continues will the entire econcomy be controlled by less than 1% of the population?
    In the 1930s there were over 60,000 men in Irish army and they were on the streets/roads patrolling. Now it seems there are only 600 Guards on duty at any one time. Will we be down to 60 in ten years time?
    I just think its interesting and wonder will the rate of change continue to expand and where will it lead to?;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,853 ✭✭✭Yoda


    If we are lucky.... we will start by getting rid of Fianna Fáil and their beastly policies. We will study very carefully how the small Scandinavian countries have put social justice and the welfare of all to the top of the agenda, and we will implement reforms here which will truly raise the quality of life for everyone here.

    If we are lucky.


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