Duffer, Keano, Reid...Ireland in general

eirebhoy · 07-12-2003 5:45pm #1

Are these three players really Irish?

Its great to see the Duffer scoring, all the Chelsea fans are now starting to see who their best player is. Also, the France manager said he tried to sign him at Lyon and he will be worried about him when Ireland face the French.

Keano got a hatrick against his old club Wolves and wasn't in the mood for any celebrations. Once he's scoring on a regular basis and playing his best Spurs will be winning a lot more matches overall.

And Andy Reid got another goal yesterday to make it 10 league goals for him this season. The Notts Forest chairman said that if Forest are not in a realistic position for a promotion challenge by Christmas, they will have to sell Reid in the January transfer window. Birmingham are been linked with him but I doubt Steve Bruce will pay 4 million for him as he wasted 5.5 million on another division 1 star, Clinton Morrison. Duff didn't hit top form til about 22 so we could have another star in Reid.

Since it looks like Kerr will start playing Duff on the left wing again and both Reid and Miller are guaranteed a place in the Irish 11 if they live up to the expectations, that means that if we are to play with 4-4-2 we only have one place left to choose between Holland, Kavanagh, Delap and Healy. Since Duff, Reid and Miller are all very attack minded players we will need some protection for them going forward.

I would prefer to play 4-5-1 but a lot of people are saying that Keane is not suited to been played as a loan striker, why?It would be the same as him up front with Connolly, Doc or Morrison because Miller, Reid and Duff will be up forward most of the time anyway.

I'd go with this midfield:

Reid

Duff

Delap

Kavanagh/Holland

Miller

Bring on the French.:)

bizmark · 07-12-2003 6:01pm

indead our team is good and we have some fine up and comeing star's

Lennoxschips · 07-12-2003 6:02pm

                                           Given


		Carr		Cunningham		Thompson	Finnan

		Miller	                   O'Shea      	      	  	Duff
                             Kavanagh                    A Reid 
					
					    Keane

kmart6 · 07-12-2003 6:04pm

Yeh great up and coming stars.But we need to get new defenders.In my opinion Cunningham and Brein arent worth s**t

Lennoxschips · 07-12-2003 6:08pm

Birmingham City supporters can't stop saying good things about Cunningham, they say he's in the form of his life.

Tellox · 07-12-2003 7:51pm

I think the absence of cunningham was very much felt in the switzerland match..

Big Ears · 07-12-2003 9:20pm

im not worried about cunningham at the back although i am worried about breen.
interesting team lennoxchips.

James R · 07-12-2003 11:53pm

Well I don't know much about the up-and-coming stars but its encouraging that Richard Dunne has regained his place in Man City's side. While he may not be the answer to our problems he is certainly handy to have around.

And also I believe John O'Shea can only get better and in a year or so (possibly by the time we play the French) he'll be a much tougher player. This season will teach him a thing or two I feel.

eirebhoy · 08-12-2003 12:21am

Originally posted by James R
Well I don't know much about the up-and-coming stars but its encouraging that Richard Dunne has regained his place in Man City's side. While he may not be the answer to our problems he is certainly handy to have around.

He was supposed to have played a stormer today against Everton.
http://www.soccercentral.ie/viewstory.asp?id=11581&mainheading=Other&viewstory=yes

James R · 08-12-2003 6:59am

Yeah he did. Saw the match. Came very close to scoring with a volley from the edge of the box (Yes this is Richard Dunne we're talking about!!!!!!!!!).

It was interesting actually cause he has never scored in the Premiership but has four for Ireland :cool:

uberwolf · 08-12-2003 9:47am

who's this chap thompson named at centre back a few posts up?

cournioni · 08-12-2003 11:03am

None of the following players should ever be selected for Ireland again IMO:

Gary Breen
Gary Doherty (unless were in serious trouble)
Matt Holland
Mark Kinsella
Ian Harte
Kevin Kilbane
Lee Carsley

We have some great talent coming through at the moment, Miller, Reid etc. Why not use them instead of the useless ones listed?

My team for the WC Qualifiers:
GK: Given

DL: Finnan
DR: Carr
DC: Cunningham
DC: O'Shea

ML: Duff
MR: S. Reid
CM: Healy
CM: Miller

AMC: A. Reid

SC: Keane.

Davey Devil · 08-12-2003 4:45pm

Originally posted by PORNAPSTER

My team for the WC Qualifiers:
GK: Given

DL: Finnan
DR: Carr
DC: Cunningham
DC: O'Shea

ML: Duff
MR: S. Reid
CM: Healy
CM: Miller

AMC: A. Reid

SC: Keane.

I'd go for that same team except i'd have Holland in there instead of Healy, we need some experiance in midfield and let's face it Healy was crap against the Swiss.

Ping Chow Chi · 08-12-2003 4:51pm

And Andy Reid got another goal yesterday to make it 10 league goals for him this season. The Notts Forest chairman said that if Forest are not in a realistic position for a promotion challenge by Christmas, they will have to sell Reid in the January transfer window

First I have heard of this - and its not been on any of the forest message boards - where did you get this information from?

... and its Nottm forest, notts is for county

eirebhoy · 08-12-2003 7:36pm

Originally posted by PORNAPSTER
My team for the WC Qualifiers:
GK: Given

DL: Finnan
DR: Carr
DC: Cunningham
DC: O'Shea

ML: Duff
MR: S. Reid
CM: Healy
CM: Miller

AMC: A. Reid

SC: Keane.

We wouldn't get away with this team selection as all the midfielders are too attack minded. Rory Delap is in superb form for Southampton and he is could be used as a holding midfielder and let the lads go forward as he does at Soutampton.

Also, Steven Reid is ****e, lets face it. He isn't in very good form for his club and the same for his country. I am a Celtic fan but I think Kavanagh is an awful lot better than Miller and he does not get enough praise. Miller is also a right winger and usually plays there for Celtic so take Steven Reid out and Kavanagh in and switch Kav with Miller and it would be alright. I still think Delap should be in there for Healy though.

First I have heard of this - and its not been on any of the forest message boards - where did you get this information from?

I read it in the Herald or something. I've been googling and can't find any links but i'll let you know if I do.

cournioni · 09-12-2003 10:28am

Originally posted by Davey Devil
I'd go for that same team except i'd have Holland in there instead of Healy, we need some experiance in midfield and let's face it Healy was crap against the Swiss.

Healy was bad against the Swiss alright, but at least he doesn't go missing from the game for a good 80 minutes. There is no way Holland should be playing. Delap would be a good choice either for the midfield roll.

Eirebhoy, yeah they are decent enough options you've pointed out there. All I have to say is that I don't want to ever see the likes of Carsley, Holland or Kinsella ever get into the squad ever again. Never mind the team.

eirebhoy · 09-12-2003 10:35am

Healy was injured playing against Coventry yesterdy and he might have a broken leg which could keep him out for the whole season so he might not ge a chance to stake his claim for Ireland now.

cournioni · 09-12-2003 10:39am

Hmm... You'd never know, he could come back and play twice as well as he is at the moment. As happens so very often in football nowadays.

Duffer, Keano, Reid...Ireland in general

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