I would seriously consider this

daveg · 02-12-2003 12:38pm #1

For those who share a passion for wanting to fly a jet fighter you can with http://www.flymig.com/packages/this company. $11,000 to fly a mig.... but it does include breakfast.

Sleipnir · 02-12-2003 12:43pm

Originally posted by daveg
.... but it does include breakfast.

ah, you'd lose that anyway

Beruthiel · 02-12-2003 12:46pm

how are ya going to pay for it dave?

sell your granny?

angelofdeath · 02-12-2003 12:49pm

Is the mig armed?...

daveg · 02-12-2003 12:51pm

Originally posted by Beruthiel
how are ya going to pay for it dave?

sell your granny?

Are you offering a price?

Mick L · 02-12-2003 12:51pm

SU-27, oh yeah. Wonder if you'd get them to do that cobra maneuver.

AND there's $100 off if you order now, maybe this should be moved to the bargains forum:D

Some day I'll have more money than sense and do something like this.

daveg · 02-12-2003 12:58pm

I'm off to Florida in april on my hols. During my visit I'll be doing this. Not quite an SU-27 but it's only €160.

Havelock · 02-12-2003 1:08pm

Sweet. Wonder if I could get my hands on a Messerschmitt 109 or a Stuka, the Germans had all the best planes. Maybe even a Focke-Wulf-190.

Beruthiel · 02-12-2003 1:17pm

Originally posted by daveg
Are you offering a price?

nope - I still got both of them

but I am down both grandads....

daveg · 02-12-2003 1:20pm

Originally posted by Beruthiel
nope - I still got both of them

but I am down both grandads....

I'm actually down both granny's. Was hoping to pass you off with 2 fakes. Oh well.... never mind.

woosaysdan · 02-12-2003 1:33pm

are migs single seaters or twin seaters? fly away to another country

Mick L · 02-12-2003 1:37pm

Originally posted by woosaysdan
are migs single seaters or twin seaters? fly away to another country

Single seaters in operation but there are twin seater trainers. I'm sure if you tried to 'fly away' it would get realisitic real quick.

daveg · 02-12-2003 2:40pm

The test pilot in the rear seat may have an objection to you flying off to another country. Have you never seen Foxbat with Clint Eastwood?

Peace · 02-12-2003 3:08pm

I saw a program where some lady did this...on discovery if i remember. They flew to the top altitude of the fighter and it was literally on the edge of space....the sky above them was stars rather than sky blue.

Would be col alright.

Sleepy · 02-12-2003 9:33pm

Am I alone in dreaming of owning a Spitfire? The plane that won the Battle of Britain, twice as manoeverable as the Messerschmitt...

Mick L · 03-12-2003 9:35am

The spitfire has IMO the nicest lines of any plane in WW2. However I'm sure we could have a whole forum dedicated to which plane was the best/had the most impact in WW2 e.g. there were far more hurricanes flying during the battle of britain than spitfires.

daveg · 03-12-2003 10:49am

Nothing like the sound of a spitfire. However the Tornado below would be my personal favourite.

Mick L · 03-12-2003 10:54am

The tornado is ...alright, a bit of a brute though, not all that fast, quite heavy. Loud though (as I'm sure all jets are up close and personal). While I was on a diving trip to Scapa Flow (North Scotland) we were on one of the islands passing time between dives and out of no where a tornado appeared and screamed past at low level. Very cool. But if you want to talk about nice looking jets, I have to admit that the Americans produce very quality planes. The F-18/14 and especially the F-15, it's got the looks and its got the moves.

daveg · 03-12-2003 12:42pm

Originally posted by Mick L
The tornado is ...alright, a bit of a brute though, not all that fast, quite heavy. Loud though (as I'm sure all jets are up close and personal). While I was on a diving trip to Scapa Flow (North Scotland) we were on one of the islands passing time between dives and out of no where a tornado appeared and screamed past at low level. Very cool. But if you want to talk about nice looking jets, I have to admit that the Americans produce very quality planes. The F-18/14 and especially the F-15, it's got the looks and its got the moves.

Tornado has a maximum speed of mach 2.2 (2335 km/h or 1450 mph) compared the the F-16 2.2 Mach & F-18 mach 1.8 or 2125 km/h. however the F-15 is the fastest of the 4 with a top speed of 1650mph. The Tornado also has a variable geometry, swing-wing arrangement which allows it to take tight turns (wings swept forward) and high speed (wings swept back).

As far as I can remember though the FA-18 Hornet is renowned as the worlds best fighter jet.

CombatCow · 03-12-2003 2:17pm

Sorry but the Black Bird pi$$es on all those planes from a height.

CombatCow

Mick L · 03-12-2003 2:21pm

Originally posted by Combatcow
Sorry but the Black Bird pi$$es on all those planes from a height.

CombatCow

HAHAHAH pisses is right, that's all it can do, it leaks so much fuel on take off it needs to be refuelled before it can go anywhere. Also it's unarmed and tbh I never really liked the look of it that much.

neoB · 03-12-2003 2:33pm

Those arnt bad prices. Im tempted to drive up to the place just to take a look and maybe a fly. Those are some sweet birds.

daveg · 03-12-2003 2:36pm

Originally posted by Mick L
HAHAHAH pisses is right, that's all it can do, it leaks so much fuel on take off it needs to be refuelled before it can go anywhere. Also it's unarmed and tbh I never really liked the look of it that much.

Indeed. It actually shrinks by approx 1 meter at cruising altitude due to the heat on the airframe. It fly's at Mach 3 (2200mph) and is the fastest plane ever.

It does not need any armament as it can outrun a missile (and has done on many occasions). However the blackbird is a reconnaissance aircraft like the U2. Not a fighter jet.

patch · 03-12-2003 2:42pm

Originally posted by daveg
The test pilot in the rear seat may have an objection to you flying off to another country. Have you never seen Foxbat with Clint Eastwood?

Foxbat? Nah....I saw one called Firefox though.

I presume the plane was actually called foxbat though, which is prolly where your coming from.

Mick L · 03-12-2003 2:45pm

Originally posted by patch
Foxbat? Nah....I saw one called Firefox though.
I presume the plane was actually called foxbat though, which is prolly where your coming from.

Actually the plane in the film was called the firefox, the FoxBat is what the 'West' calls the Mig-25 which is basically two monster engines with a cockpit and 2 wings attached. Fastest plane at the time I think.

cerebus · 03-12-2003 11:33pm

Originally posted by daveg
It fly's at Mach 3 (2200mph) and is the fastest plane ever.

Hmmm. Yeager and the rest of the guys who flew out of Edwards AFB might disagree. The X-15 springs to mind... some guy flew at over Mach 6 in that thing if I remember right.

Now if you meant "fastest production plane", then you've got a case for the Blackbird

ozt9vdujny3srf · 04-12-2003 12:20am

Are you sure they actually let you fly the plane? Seems to me like you just get to be the passenger. Doesnt flying one of those things require an awful lot of training?

Capt'n Midnight · 04-12-2003 12:52am

Forget the blackbird - messy, what you need is something that doesn't need to be refueled four times per mission and where you don't need to be wearing a space suit ...

The Great White Bird

http://www.labiker.org/xb70.html
http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/modern_flight/mf37.htm

BTW: it was the hurricane that won the battle of britan - Spitfires were better planes, but needed more maintanance where as the simplier hurricane could be put back in the air much sooner - also AFAIK the hurricanes shot down more german planes than all of the other defenses combined.

Capt'n Midnight · 04-12-2003 1:10am

Originally posted by daveg
Indeed. It actually shrinks by approx 1 meter at cruising altitude due to the heat on the airframe. It fly's at Mach 3 (2200mph) and is the fastest plane ever.

It does not need any armament as it can outrun a missile (and has done on many occasions). However the blackbird is a reconnaissance aircraft like the U2. Not a fighter jet.

It EXPANDS not shrinks and not by as much as you say.
The SR71 was based on the YF? which was a fighter and had Hughes Falcon? semi recessed missiles.

XR-70 is faster over long distances 'cos it don't have to refuel and Mig 25 (built to shoot down the XB-70) and the SU-T4 aren't that much slower.

Anyway the Shuttle does Mach 17+ on re-entry... and has the longest range...

po0k · 04-12-2003 2:08am

Originally posted by Truckle
Are you sure they actually let you fly the plane? Seems to me like you just get to be the passenger. Doesnt flying one of those things require an awful lot of training?

Get a decent PC, F-16FLCS and TQS flight system and a copy of Falcon4.0
Then install the patches and the latest SuperPack.
Fly around for a few hours in a Su-27.
Then hop behind the flightyoke and have a bit of fun, try and avoid stalling her, blacking or redding out and let the pilot handle the landing and take-off.

The Su-27 is a lovely machine. The yanks can't build anything like it, too much digital fabric between the pilot and the control surfaces.
Takes balls to fly Russian jets.
Massive respect.

po0k · 04-12-2003 2:12am

S-37 Berkut

Gorgeous looking Gen5 jet

TomTom · 04-12-2003 2:58am

Its a dream for me to fly one and at 11,000 it will remain a dream

daveg · 04-12-2003 7:51am

Originally posted by cerebus
Hmmm. Yeager and the rest of the guys who flew out of Edwards AFB might disagree. The X-15 springs to mind... some guy flew at over Mach 6 in that thing if I remember right.

Now if you meant "fastest production plane", then you've got a case for the Blackbird

I knew someone was going to contradict me with the X-15. The X-15 is not actually a plane it is a rocket... albeit a "manned" rocket. It has to be flown on the under wing of another aircraft to the desired altitude and then it is dropped. The rocket then flies at Mach 6.7 (4,520 mph).

However, as I said before, the fastest jet in history is the SR-71 (Blackbird).

Are you sure they actually let you fly the plane? Seems to me like you just get to be the passenger. Doesnt flying one of those things require an awful lot of training?

Yes you actually get to fly the plane. The test pilot takes off and lands the plane but you get to take the controls (for only a few minutes I imagine). It's not difficult... you wouldn't be doing high turns or loop the loops or anything.

It EXPANDS not shrinks and not by as much as you say.
The SR71 was based on the YF? which was a fighter and had Hughes Falcon? semi recessed missiles.

XR-70 is faster over long distances 'cos it don't have to refuel and Mig 25 (built to shoot down the XB-70) and the SU-T4 aren't that much slower.

Anyway the Shuttle does Mach 17+ on re-entry... and has the longest range...

I didn't check the full facts on the expansion but having checked the facts the Blackbird's hull expand's a few inches, due to the emense heat applied to the titanium frame and skin.

Also the shuttle is a rocket not a plane.

Barry Aldwell · 04-12-2003 10:36pm

Originally posted by daveg
Also the shuttle is a rocket not a plane.

On re-entry it's a glider. Not a very good glider, but a glider nonetheless.

kaimera · 04-12-2003 10:57pm

gimme a F22 plz

or why bother with a fighter when you can have this...

Victor · 04-12-2003 11:06pm

Originally posted by Combatcow
Sorry but the Black Bird pi$$es on all those planes from a height.

No that's the fuel tanks leaking (on the ground, the joints in the tanks are open so when friction heats up the plane them come to a neutral stress / strain position).

kaimera · 04-12-2003 11:29pm

again with the F22 Raptor

ferdi · 05-12-2003 12:51am

i'd have to go with

or the messerschmitt 109

kaimera · 05-12-2003 12:07pm

rofl!

n1 ferdi

I would seriously consider this

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