Stanger disappoints Metallica... commercially, that is.

Doctor J

Metallica frontman James Hetfield recently told US news agency Reuters that the sales of the band's latest album, 'St. Anger', which now total 1.5 million copies, are "a bummer".

"In Europe it's doing really good, and some other places," explained Hetfield. "It is what it is. We can't change that. We do our best and that's all we can do. It's a bummer,"

Metallica's drummer, Lars Ulrich, added that 'St. Anger' is the band's biggest album in Europe since 1991's 'Metallica'.

"'St. Anger' is a very challenging record," said Lars. "US rock radio programmers seem more interested in playing bands like Nickelback these days."



Ha hahhahh hahh haha hahah... I thought it was because it's a terrible, terrible album... damn radio programmers

henbane

Originally posted by Doctor J
Ha hahhahh hahh haha hahah... I thought it was because it's a terrible, terrible album... damn radio programmers

Don't forget it's Kazaa's fault too.:D

Ronan|Raven

Id adivse ye to check out the episode of south park where stan and kyle download a few songs to help inspire their group tis hilarious. "Christian Rock" is the title of the episode dont think it has been on sky yet but well worth watching. A record exec takes the kids on a "ghost of xmas past " style journey where they goto Ulrichs pool and see him crying as due to piracy he cant afford his gold plated shark bar for his pool for another few weeks!

Töpher

I must see that!

And Metallica would get more play if they wrote half decent songs nowadays. Unfortunately going "Frantic tic tic tic tic tic tic tic tic" doesn't quite do it for me, especially coming from a band who were once amazing.

Pugsley

And I bet not once did they think the album plainly sucked monkey scrotum....

Töpher

I know when they relased I disappear they said the new album would have a nu-metal feel to it to appeal to the kids, ugh. In the end it was pure nu-metal, and therefore, by all accounts, garbage.

Doctor J

No, it really is crap. Trust me.

pyure

i thought st anger was a great album....way better than most load/reload anyways

anyways, i doubt the low sales figures in the us will worry them anyways, especially since they're making/have made a film about the making of the album. its gonna be called 'Some kind of monster : the making of st anger', and should be in cinemas nxt yr i think. ick.

Deadwing

Poor Metallica. I guess the millions they already have just arent enough. Im gonna go bust open my piggy bank and send the contents to lars ulrich. Maybe with the money he can go and buy some f*cking drum lessons.

And 'How to not be an utter gimpchild' lessons.

feylya

I am the only one who thinks St Anger is actually a bloody good album. Not as good As Puppets but probably up there with AJFA. And isn't SKOM coming out on DVD? It's only being shown in cinemas at some film festivals.

cournioni

Originally posted by Deadwing
Poor Metallica. I guess the millions they already have just arent enough. Im gonna go bust open my piggy bank and send the contents to lars ulrich. Maybe with the money he can go and buy some f*cking drum lessons.

And 'How to not be an utter gimpchild' lessons.

Spot on.

af666x

Nail. Head. Hit it.

"Stanger" is a big festering pil of ****e that was made to appeal to kiddies and nu-metal gob****es alike. I was disgusted when I played it for the first time - considering my other option for purchase (The Art of Kirk Hammett) was the one I left on the shelf.

But saying this, they may suck ass at writing the old stuff still - but were you expecting Master of Puppets 2 ? They can still play all their older better stuff and we should be thankful for that at least.

Oh and it IS better than Load/Reload. They were made during the time that Lars sols his ass to Satan for a nipple piercing.

James R

Hopefully they'll bounce back with a better album next time out. It'll be the new bassist's (ain't going to attempt to spell that second name!) first real involvement with an album so hopefully he can add something to it.

Heathen

Originally posted by Deadwing
Im gonna go bust open my piggy bank and send the contents to lars ulrich. Maybe with the money he can go and buy some f*cking drum lessons.

ok i will accept that st. anger was a big dissapontment, but the gig in the RDS was KICKA55!!! and a lot of people seem to have very short memories... just because one album dosent compair to the stuff from they released in the past 22 years, dosent mean that there **** musicians..... people try different things all the time, i am sick and ****in tired of people who just want bands to release the same album over and over again!! if they had their way they'd expect metallica to have re-released master of puppets every year since 1986 !!!

as for that comment about lars.... lad have you any idea how many drummers worldwide would not be in bands if not for him?? believe me.. he can play!!!

Later
Macker (a Drummer inspired by Lars!)

Doctor J

Originally posted by Macker Eire
just because one album dosent compair to the stuff from they released in the past 22 years, dosent mean that there **** musicians..... people try different things all the time, i am sick and ****in tired of people who just want bands to release the same album over and over again!!

Not one album at all. For me, they've stank (stunk?) since the black album (and AJFA has no bass, it's just as well the tunes were banging!). It's got nothing to do with their sound changing, I agree, that's a good thing. It's just that Metallica changed more than their sound. They lost whatever it was that made them the best. They started sucking on the corporate c*ck (Bob Rock) and turned their back on the things that made them so special in the early years. Yeah, they're still a decent live band but let me ask you this - how many songs from their set came from the first four albums? It's not hard to be a good live band when you've got those four albums to draw upon.

I would urge you to check out the latest Voivod album, with Jason Newsted playing. It rocks, he rocks and you can hear him for a change, he's a top class bassist. Let people remember while James and Lars were hanging out with Kid Rock, Jason was recording with the guys from Sepultura, Voivod, Exodus, etc etc etc

Rob Trujillo, good bassist that he is, is a hired goon, he'll have no say in Metallica's future musical or corporate direction (Infectious Grooves, anyone?). I mean, they wouldn't even let him record bass on the Stanger, even though he joined before it was finished. They were happy to have Mr. Rock play fumblebass when he should've been behind the desk sorting out that snare sound.

Töpher

Yups, that snare is, how do you say, hideous!

Deadwing

Originally posted by Doctor J
Not one album at all. For me, they've stank (stunk?) since the black album (and AJFA has no bass, it's just as well the tunes were banging!). It's got nothing to do with their sound changing, I agree, that's a good thing. It's just that Metallica changed more than their sound. They lost whatever it was that made them the best. They started sucking on the corporate c*ck (Bob Rock) and turned their back on the things that made them so special in the early years. Yeah, they're still a decent live band but let me ask you this - how many songs from their set came from the first four albums? It's not hard to be a good live band when you've got those four albums to draw upon.

I would urge you to check out the latest Voivod album, with Jason Newsted playing. It rocks, he rocks and you can hear him for a change, he's a top class bassist. Let people remember while James and Lars were hanging out with Kid Rock, Jason was recording with the guys from Sepultura, Voivod, Exodus, etc etc etc

Rob Trujillo, good bassist that he is, is a hired goon, he'll have no say in Metallica's future musical or corporate direction (Infectious Grooves, anyone?). I mean, they wouldn't even let him record bass on the Stanger, even though he joined before it was finished. They were happy to have Mr. Rock play fumblebass when he should've been behind the desk sorting out that snare sound.

My sentiments exactly.

Originally posted by Macker Eire
believe me.. he can play!!!

Yeah he can play alright. Badly.
I wouldnt dispute with anyone that in the 80's, along with slayer, metallica were the kings of metal. But i can at least admit now that, yes, they do suck corporate cock. Yes, they are now a part of everything they once stood against in the music industry. yes they are a bad parody of what they once where. All the kickass gigs in the rds wont change that now. And no, i dont want them to keep rereleasing master of puppets, i want them to leep releasing GOOD albums. Theres a difference between evolving your sound, and drastically changing your sound to suit whats popular with the kids at the time.

af666x

I think I'll agree with Macker Eire on the point about the gig is the RDS.
They played erm... 6 songs that weren't from the first 4 albums. That's why it was a kick ass gig. They didn't play anything apart from what they knew would get people going (Except the two new ones).

Even still, I have criticisms. Kirk uses too much wah to disguise his sloppiness. If you hit a bum note with wah, can you hear it? Or can anyone else for that matter?

Newsted was better than Rob. Fact

Lars spat on me.

I've since had my shots.

Töpher

Originally posted by af666x

Lars spat on me.

I've since had my shots.

A necessary precaution after coming in contact with the saliva of a monkey.

Ameirgin

I gotta say I liked St Anger (particularly Frantic, St Anger and Invisible Kid), and the gig was great. However, the album took a long time to grow on me (possibly like mould ), and i really only began to appreciate it after the gig in the RDS, having heard a couple of tracks live.

I agree, however, that Lars needs to be shot for that snare drum sound - 30 minutes of banging a metal spoon on a tin pot would have been preferrable!

projectmayhem

Originally posted by Einstürzende
Unfortunately going "Frantic tic tic tic tic tic tic tic tic" doesn't quite do it for me

that's absolute genius, it's a metaphore for life!

Doctor J

By any standards, it's a weak album. Just because it says Metallica on the cover doesn't mean it's any good (Load/Reload taught us that lesson).

If the band was called Jizzgoblins instead of Metallica, would you still be listening to it? No, I didn't think so. Forget any links to their past, or whatever sentiment urges us to give this album another chance. If that slop was served up by an unknown band you'd say it was the worst album ever. Just because it's Metallica we think "Oh there has to be a good bit somewhere, it can't be entirely crap, these are the guys who wrote Master Of Puppets!"

Ameirgin

In fairness I think that even if this was by Jizzgoblins I would still like the tracks that I like. I do agree that I probably gave it more time because it was who it was - I might not have tried to listen to the Jizzgoblins version a second or third time. I dunno..........

Actually, I don't think I'd buy an album by a band called the Jizzgoblins, but that's just me!

Doctor J

Actually... Jizzgoblins... hmmmm

it has potential

Ameirgin

I can see moral majorities not liking it (after someone has politely explained to them what it refers to!). I can see bannings, and people like Tipper Gore getting waaaaay too much airtime over this!!

Don't do it Doctor J - it just isn't worth it!!

Töpher

Hmmm.... Jizzgoblins... is that another dig at Lars?!