Star Wars Classic Trilogy Ultimate Edition on DvD

Venom

Classic Trilogy Ultimate Edition in the Works
Thu, Nov 20, 03 09:33:04 PM EST


It has been reported all over the web and on this website for months, though now there's a resurgence in the rumors that an eventual and final release of the Classic Trilogy is coming. Where these rumors are coming from now is a person emailing a list of changes to websites and telling them work is being done. And while we can defintiely confirm that ILM is working on the movies for plenty of enhancements, the list may or may not be accurate. Here's the run down of possible and very rumored changes:

Episode IV: A New Hope

01. The Imperial March has been added to Darth Vader's first appearance on Princess Leia's ship.
02. When Obi-Wan is talking to Luke about his father Anakin's Theme plays in the background and then it turns into the Imperial March as he talks about Vader.
03. The lightsaber effects have been redone and the frame jumps of lightsabers being turned on has been removed.
04. There's a new scene which has been shot during the filming of Episode III in which the Emperor dissolves the Senate.
05. In the Cantina, the Duros (green aliens guys) have been replaced with Neimoidians and some aliens from the prequels have been added.
06. The bleeding arm on the floor in the Cantina has been replaced with a non-bleeding arm because it's now canon that lightsabers cauterize wounds.
07. The original shooting scene between Han and Greedo has been restored.
08. Jabba the Hutt has been given a makeover and Han no longer steps on his tale.
09. In place of R2 wobbling down the stairs to the Falcon's hangar, a CG R2 navigating the stairs like he does in Attack of the Clones was added.
10. The white boxes around space ships have been removed and new CG shots have been added.
11. The scene of the Falcon being chased by the two Star Destroyers was modified. The Falcon now does spinning moves, avoiding the Star Destroyers' fire.
12. When the Death Star destroys Alderaan there's a new scene of Yoda's reaction to the disturbance in the Force that is created by all those deaths and then it cuts to Obi-Wan reacting to it as well.
13. The Dianoga has gotten a CG makeover and were are now able to see more of the creature.
14. The Death Star's paneling and computers have been slightly altered to show similar displays to those in the prequels.
15. The words "Tractor Beam" with Aurebesh lettering.
16. More stormtroopers have been added to the Death Star.
17. Temuera Morrison's voice is being recorded for use with all the stormtroopers.
18. The Obi-Wan/Vader duel has been spruced up. It is much more epic and there is much more movement. A modified version of Duel of the Fates is being considered for the scene.
19. The Death Star plans that are taken from R2 have been updated. When the Rebels are reviewing the Death Star plans they look similar to the plans we see in Attack of the Clones.
20. The Death Star battle is much more epic with more Tie Fighters and more Rebels being blown to bits. We get to see old Naboo starfighters being used by the Rebels.
21. There's a new scene (shot during Episode III) where Darth Vader goes to Coruscant and lands his ship in the same building Count Dooku does at the end of Attack of the Clones. Except now the building is all fixed up and it is now Palpatine's palace. He meets with Palpatine to ask for forgiveness for his failure and inform him of a new potential who is strong in the Force.
22. Chewbacca now gets a medal.

Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back

01. The taun-tauns are now CG.
02. The battle of Hoth is much more epic. We see the Imperial ships land on Hoth and release AT-ATs. The AT-ATs have been sped up a bit. There's a ground battle between the Rebel soldiers and stormtroopers featuring new ships and vehicles.
03. Temuera Morrison's voice is being recorded for the older Boba Fett and all the stormtroopers.
04. The white boxes around space ships have been removed.
05. The slug monster is CG.
06. Ian McDiarmid has refilmed scenes as the Emperor. The conversations between Vader and Palpatine is now longer and features a few connections to the prequels.
07. Yoda's face is now animated in CG allowing more expression of emotions yet his movements remain the same. Also two deleted scenes featuring Yoda instructing Luke have been restored.
08. A new scene was shot in which the stormtroopers, after they capture Han, Leia and Chewie, bring Vader the box containing C-3PO in pieces. Vader orders the stormtroopers to bring the broken droid to Chewbacca's cell so that he can fix him.
09. The lightsaber effects have been redone in certain parts.
10. Luke's fall from Cloud City has been reshot against bluescreen using a stuntman.

Episode VI: Return of the Jedi

01. Jabba the Hutt is now a combination of the puppet and CG.
02. The Rancor is CG and looks disgusting as ever.
03. Yoda is CG. Yoda disappears leaving his clothes behind like Obi-Wan now.
04. The ewoks are now mostly CG and there are a lot more of them.
05. The plan is to insert the love theme Across the Stars when Luke is talking with Leia about their mother.
06. Temuera Morrison's like before is now the voice for Boba Fett and all the stormtroopers.
07. In the battle of Endor there are thousands of Ewoks and they are more vicious than there midgets-in-suits counterparts. More bite the dust now.
08. White boxes around ships removed.
09. The black blotches around Palpatine's face are gone.
10. Some of the lightsaber effects have been redone. The shadows that the lightsabers made on the floor are gone.
11. During Anakin's death scene it starts with a sad rendition of the Imperial March and slowly evolves into Anakin's Theme.
12. Sebastion Shaw who played Anakin when he was unmasked has been replaced with Hayden Christenson in make-up to make him look older. Anakin has much more dialogue. He apologizes for the destruction he caused, he thanks his son for turning him back to the light, he tells his son to rebuild the Jedi and he says he loves him and his sister. Just before he dies he says, "It is finished...".
13. We see more planets celebrating at the end of the movie. We see an aged Jar Jar, who is now the leader of the Gungans, on Naboo celebrating with the people of Naboo and the Gungans. We see an old Watto, who is now unable to fly, sitting in a hover chair cheering on Tatooine. During these scenes Across the Stars plays transitioning to the victory celebration music at the Ewok tree village.
14. Anakin's spirit is now played by Hayden Christenson with make-up to make him look his age. He looks on proudly at his son Luke with the spirit of Padme by his side.

Again, these are more of a wish list than accurate information. We also wanted to tell you something perhaps even more significant. Episode I: The Phantom Menace is getting a full overhaul as well. We'll leave you with that for now.

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ixoy

So the moron is once more tinkering and screwing around the originals? Who shoots first hmm? And what's after this? Star Wars Classic Trilogy Ultimate Platinum Director Cut's Super Extended Limited Edition on DVD? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Stark

"All violent scenes have been removed. Characters in Star Wars no longer bleed, and when Darth Vaders lieutenants **** up, he issues them first with a verbal warning, followed by a written warning, followed by dismissal".

"Polyfilla can be seen lining many of the sets, where plot holes were haphazardly covered over".

Creamy Goodness

they should leave the classics the way they are


What's Not Broken Don't Try To Fix!!

Makaveli

The originals were deleted weren't they?
Tosser! :mad:

DMT

Originally posted by Venom
08. Jabba the Hutt has been given a makeover and Han no longer steps on his tale.

That scene sucked in the special edition. Han walking on Jabba's tail looks fake and there's parts where it looks like Han's arm should be behind (or inside!) Jabba instead of in front of him.

tman

01. The Imperial March has been added to Darth Vader's first appearance on Princess Leia's ship.

*FAP*

when's episode 3 coming out anyway? sometime in the summer?

lodgepole

Some of those changes sound excellent.

Replacing Yoda's face in Empire would be a ridiculous thing to do and, to be honest, I don't believe for a second that it will happen.

Nor will CG Ewoks.

And even though it makes sense to rerecord the stormtroopers voice, i'd still prefer it if they were left well enough alone.

But then again, it's not as if any of those things are going to stop me from buying it.

feylya

Make the bad man stop. Episode 3 is coming out in 2005 AFAIK

patch

Looks like this was somebody talking crap.......AICN.

http://www.aint-it-cool-news.com/display.cgi?id=16560

Stark

Ah good.

CGI is bad when it comes to star wars. Star wars was always about really cool stock motion animation. Ships that looked like you could reach out and touch them. CGI was what I hated most about episodes 1 and 2.

lodgepole

Originally posted by k.oriordan
Ah good.

CGI is bad when it comes to star wars. Star wars was always about really cool stock motion animation. Ships that looked like you could reach out and touch them. CGI was what I hated most about episodes 1 and 2.

I thought the replacement CG shots used in episode 4 during the approach to the Death Star were absolutely superb. A lot dirtier and real than the Episode 1 and 2 shots.

Stark

Maybe in that particular scene (cgi can be good for really fast action sequences). But can you imagine if the entire classic trilogy was done in CGI?

Venom

Originally posted by Makaveli
The originals were deleted weren't they?
Tosser! :mad:

Not deleted per say, but they did degrade to a point where they were unrepairable due to the medium they were filmed on. If lucas hadnt re-did them for the special editions the movies would not be around today.

lodgepole

Originally posted by Venom
Not deleted per say, but they did degrade to a point where they were unrepairable due to the medium they were filmed on. If lucas hadnt re-did them for the special editions the movies would not be around today.

The oringal negative that is... You could still take a print of that negative, and use that as a source for making new prints or digitising for DVD release.

I'm sure there are plenty of prints still around, and i'm also sure the original negative still exists, unaltered, and is in Lucas's own archive.

ixoy

Originally posted by Venom
Not deleted per say, but they did degrade to a point where they were unrepairable due to the medium they were filmed on. If lucas hadnt re-did them for the special editions the movies would not be around today.

So why not just re-do the originals and not tamper with the scenes and who shoot first? Answer: Lucas = T0553r.

Jim

i much prefare the puppet aliens rather than cgi. i thought they should have been puppets in ep1 and 2. dito for the cgi starships, thought the models were much better.

a load of that sounds absolute ****e. its like they weren't even tryin to make it sound real.

yoda appearing in ep 4? idiotic.

Venom

Originally posted by ixoy
So why not just re-do the originals and not tamper with the scenes and who shoot first? Answer: Lucas = T0553r.

He cant redo the originals. There gone forever apart from the original video release. They will never appear on video or DvD again. The special edition version is all that is left that can be re-mastered for DvD.

Venom

Originally posted by Jimeatsmenu
i much prefare the puppet aliens rather than cgi. i thought they should have been puppets in ep1 and 2. dito for the cgi starships, thought the models were much better.

a load of that sounds absolute ****e. its like they weren't even tryin to make it sound real.

yoda appearing in ep 4? idiotic.

Whats wrong with Yoda appearing in ep 4? Seeing as the whole story will be finished in 2005, why have Yoda just appear in 5 of the 6 movies?

Retr0gamer

the stop motion and model work in the original trilogy is probably the best examples of this kind of special effect in a film ever. Why are they triying to change everything. I'd be happy with a DVD which gave the option of the original of re-made versions and a sh*t load of extras.

ixoy

Originally posted by Venom
He cant redo the originals. There gone forever apart from the original video release. They will never appear on video or DvD again. The special edition version is all that is left that can be re-mastered for DvD.

I'll ask again. Why can't he redo the originals? He used the originals to make the special edition on a new print right? So why the fcuk didn't he just use the original prints to create a NEW CLEAN print of the originals that was UNTAMPERED with and did not have CRAPPY CGI. The answer is still that Lucas is a t0553r.

lodgepole

Originally posted by ixoy
I'll ask again. Why can't he redo the originals? He used the originals to make the special edition on a new print right? So why the fcuk didn't he just use the original prints to create a NEW CLEAN print of the originals that was UNTAMPERED with and did not have CRAPPY CGI. The answer is still that Lucas is a t0553r.

It's completely possible, he just doesn't want to.

sceptre

Originally posted by Venom
We see an aged Jar Jar, who is now the leader of the Gungans

I must have misread that. I saw:

"We see Jar Jar's skinned body hanging over the entrance to the Gungan throne room as a reminder to the future kids not to be so stupid"

I'll buy that for a dollar.

Venom

Originally posted by Lodgepole
It's completely possible, he just doesn't want to.

According to Lucas its not as the original copy has been destryoed and all thats left is the special edition. Weither this is true or not dosent really mean much as the special editions are the versions Lucas claims he always wanted to make but lacked the technology at the time to do so.

Star Wars on DvD = special editions. Deal with it or stick to the version you have on video.

Venom

Originally posted by sceptre
I must have misread that. I saw:

"We see Jar Jar's skinned body hanging over the entrance to the Gungan throne room as a reminder to the future kids not to be so stupid"

I'll buy that for a dollar.

JarJar is not going to die in ep III. This has been stated by so many people including the actor who does the voice. And if you ever manage to buy an offical Star Wars product for 1 dollar you will probley see a heard of flying pigs as well

Venom

Originally posted by ixoy
I'll ask again. Why can't he redo the originals? He used the originals to make the special edition on a new print right? So why the fcuk didn't he just use the original prints to create a NEW CLEAN print of the originals that was UNTAMPERED with and did not have CRAPPY CGI. The answer is still that Lucas is a t0553r.

The original print has been destroyed due to its age. It gone the way of the dodo. Hasta la vista baby. Kaput.

Do you get it yet?

lodgepole

Originally posted by Venom
The original print has been destroyed due to its age. It gone the way of the dodo. Hasta la vista baby. Kaput.

Do you get it yet?

It hasn't. And it's not that I can't accept that the DVDs will be the special editions, I have no real problem with that. It's Lucas's perogative as the owner of the films.

But the negatives were fixed during the making of the special editions. The original negatives.

Venom

Lucas has said they were gone and even if they are hidden away in Skywalker Ranch it dosent really matter if he refuse's to ever release them.

ObeyGiant

As much as people like to paint George Lucas as some fat-necked megalomaniacal party-pooper, this isn't the case. He has, so far, bended completely to the will of the consumer. He said he wouldn't release Episode 1 and 2 on DVD, but so many people cried out for them, so he did. He said Indiana Jones wouldn't be released on DVD, but so many people cried out for them, so he did.

Right now, there's massive support for releasing the Original Editions on DVD.

There's two things I'd like to address here. They do not need the original prints to do this. There already exists a superlative transfer of the Original Editions on Laserdisc, which could easily be used as the source for a remastering (many old films are remastered from their laserdiscs when the original print is unavailable).

Second of all, there's the fact that DVD allows for seamless branching, meaning we could easily get both editions on the one disc. This isn't used that much any more, because people prefer to add 'alternate endings' as special features instead. But it is there, and would be the perfect way to appease both sides of this argument.

Dont be at yourself

Most of those changes are for the better, I think. The addition of Jar-Jar is a big no-no, though. I guess that means he won't meet a horribly bloody death at the hands of a brand spankly new Darth Vader in Ep3 then.

sceptre

Originally posted by Venom
JarJar is not going to die in ep III. This has been stated by so many people including the actor who does the voice.

Might be misdirection though:D. If Lucas ever wants to get a standing ovation around the planet for any movie he makes (and in the middle of the flick too), killing off piddlebrain is the way to go.

SCULLY

Most of the 'wish list' we could live without , but the black shading around the emperor in return of the jedi has always bugged me and if they can get rid of it, so much the better.

ixoy

Originally posted by sceptre
Might be misdirection though:D. If Lucas ever wants to get a standing ovation around the planet for any movie he makes (and in the middle of the flick too), killing off piddlebrain is the way to go.

Imagine the scene:

Jar-Jar: Oh looksa whooosa it is! It Master Anakin! Master Anakin! It's meee Jar-Jar!
[runs over to Anakin]
Jar-Jar: Howsa ya been Master Anakin?
Anakin [cold look]: Times are tough since you plunged the galaxy into the hands of a psycho, you freak. There's going to be a lot of blood spilt.
Jar-Jar: Yousssa sayin' people gonna die!?!
Anakin: No. Just you [Opens the saber and lops Jar-Jar's head off]

... and the death is such a noble act that he becomes Darth Vader