INN (Independent Network News)

stuartfanning

Am I correct in saying that INN (Independent Network News) does not have a website or stream its news bulletins, unlike its UK equivalent IRN (Independent Radio News) (www.irn.co.uk)?

Elmo

No nothing for INN that I can find.

Irish Live Television News is an online streaming news network.

www.irelandlivetelevision.tv ?????

They have the worst address IMO.

RTE stream as do TG4. TV3 don't suprise suprise.

giftgrub

the closest thing INN would have to a website would be www.radio-sales.com

thats the website of irish radio sales which is all the same company.

IRN has a subscriber site www.irnnewsweb.com where you can download clips and copy but you need a password

Elmo

Sorry for bring this up again. INN provide news to www.breakingnews.ie.

TV3 have since started to stream their News Bulletins.

More Music

stuartfanning wrote: »

Am I correct in saying that INN (Independent Network News) does not have a website or stream its news bulletins, unlike its UK equivalent IRN (Independent Radio News) (www.irn.co.uk)?

You are correct. No web based delivery at the moment.

INN provide the live bulletins and text/audio news service via satellite. IRS (independent radio sales) uses the same system for ad delivery to client stations.

Elmo

Who owns INN now?

I know they where a group of Radio stations but with all of these takeovers and Communicorp's NewsTalk being a sister channel to many of the original INN local radio stations. And also UTV's owned and operated radio stations.

Does 98(Communicorp) and LMFM(UTV) still run with INN news?

DMC

LMFM certainly does.

Best to remember, that for each local radio that takes INN, there are no INN national bulletins broadcast from INN studios before 7pm weekdays (Noel Fogerty time) and at the weekends. Each station produce their own news from the links and material provided by INN, including ad break inserts, 7am-6pm Mon-Fri.

More Music

INN is owned by the local stations. They take it in turns to nominate a chairman to INN board.

The ad that DMC mentioned to is actually called "The Bulls Eye", referring to it being played during the bulletin.

Local stations occasionally contribute to the national INN story pool.

All stations are the process of upgrading their local INN servers which allow 2 way communications with the INN server in Dublin. As usual this will download stories from the Dublin INN server but also upload stories from the local stations to Dublin. This will then make these stories accessible to other stations.

Some heads of news in local stations are a bit resistant to this however, so it's roll out has been postponed.

Deise Tom

stuartfanning wrote: »

Am I correct in saying that INN (Independent Network News) does not have a website or stream its news bulletins, unlike its UK equivalent IRN (Independent Radio News) (www.irn.co.uk)?

I often wondered about an INN website myself. Sometimes i go looking to read whats happening around the world on the radio stations websites, but find some of the local stations news sections on their websites a little crappy. Often i feel INN provide the best news coverage in Ireland.

stuartfanning

evilivor wrote: »

Just heard on the news (RTE) that INN has folded. Sad for all involved.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/1001/inn.html

evilivor

stuartfanning wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/1001/inn.html

I've deleted post - premature - hate to to upset anyone - got mates working there.

Elmo

Newstalk would have anything to do with it demise? I would have thought that INN was paid for my the stations that use the service rather than being reliant on ad revenue, IRS would be more worrying than INN surely such a company would separate both from each other. Do they sell national ads?

mike65

Interesting to see how the "mom and pop" stations cope with this, will another source step in?

Elmo

mike65 wrote: »

Interesting to see how the "mom and pop" stations cope with this, will another source step in?

UTV Radio will sell advertising for UTV Radio stations, UTV should really start providing their own news to their Radio stations to cut costs.

Communicorp will sell advertising radio for their stations and Newstalk should provide news to those stations.

The rest will have to do what the were supposed to do in the early 1990s and provide local news and advertising themselves. Either that or they might think of going with RTÉ News, TV3 News, UTV News or Newstalk.

Seems to me if they look for alternative arrangements they will get them.

Deise Tom

Elmo wrote: »

UTV Radio will sell advertising for UTV Radio stations, UTV should really start providing their own news to their Radio stations to cut costs.

Communicorp will sell advertising radio for their stations and Newstalk should provide news to those stations.

The rest will have to do what the were supposed to do in the early 1990s and provide local news and advertising themselves. Either that or they might think of going with RTÉ News, TV3 News, UTV News or Newstalk.

Seems to me if they look for alternative arrangements they will get them.

I thought most of the radio stations might have their own news teams. It might create an extra job or two in some of the stations if it is true, as they would need to provide news from say 7am till midnight. I suppose however they could record it for the later bullitins.

Elmo

INN to cease broadcasting on 30 October

aidan_walsh

Deise Tom wrote: »

I thought most of the radio stations might have their own news teams. It might create an extra job or two in some of the stations if it is true, as they would need to provide news from say 7am till midnight. I suppose however they could record it for the later bullitins.

They do, but INN were an invaluable resource for local stations covering major news events. This is something that won't be replaced easily.

Elmo

aidan_walsh wrote: »

They do, but INN were an invaluable resource for local stations covering major news events. This is something that won't be replaced easily.

I think if Newstalk, TV3 News, UTV News and even RTÉ are able to provide national news reports to local radio stations at a price I don't think INN will be missed by those stations.

The jobs are more valuable IMO and for the staff it will be a difficult time.

Deise Tom

Elmo wrote: »

I think if Newstalk, TV3 News, UTV News and even RTÉ are able to provide national news reports to local radio stations at a price I don't think INN will be missed by those stations.

The jobs are more valuable IMO and for the staff it will be a difficult time.

Maybe we might see the local and regional stations club together and pass on details of stories in their area to the other local and regional news stations free of charge.

Deise Tom

Elmo wrote: »

INN to cease broadcasting on 30 October

Would say those that left the local stations to work with INN will be kicking themselves now, but i would expect that they wont be out of work long. Some-one might set up a new company. O'Brien, your man trying to take over the Indo seems mad to be in control. Maybe he might do it.

Elmo

Deise Tom wrote: »

Would say those that left the local stations to work with INN will be kicking themselves now, but i would expect that they wont be out of work long. Some-one might set up a new company. O'Brien, your man trying to take over the Indo seems mad to be in control. Maybe he might do it.

He owns communicorp which owns Today FM, Newstalk and several other indo stations. Newstalk already have some non-communicorp stations using their national news.

Anyone know how many local radio stations are still controlled by locals/independently of other radio stations?

baloonatic

I heard on the radio that they were shutting down due to a drop in advertising revenue.

What way did that work? Did they get the advrtising slot before and after the news?

Elmo

baloonatic wrote: »

I heard on the radio that they were shutting down due to a drop in advertising revenue.

What way did that work? Did they get the advrtising slot before and after the news?

Yeah I have to agree INN was paid for by the radio stations, while they may have worked out new arrangement due to drops in advertising revenue it is unlikely that they would have had to shut down unless Newstalk et al are now beginning to compete with them for national news on local radio.

They only employed 16 journalist.

Does anyone know how INN worked?

Deise Tom

baloonatic wrote: »

I heard on the radio that they were shutting down due to a drop in advertising revenue.

What way did that work? Did they get the advrtising slot before and after the news?

I would say that what ever income is generated by ads before the news is kept by the stations.

Deise Tom

Elmo wrote: »

Yeah I have to agree INN was paid for by the radio stations, while they may have worked out new arrangement due to drops in advertising revenue it is unlikely that they would have had to shut down unless Newstalk et al are now beginning to compete with them for national news on local radio.

They only employed 16 journalist.

Does anyone know how INN worked?

16 i guess is not a bad number now adays.

marclt

Deise Tom wrote: »

16 i guess is not a bad number now adays.

I guess not, but the only really worked on national stories, local stations fed up stories and anything of international importance was fed from IRN.

Surely a back up plan is in place...

Elmo

marclt wrote: »

I guess not, but the only really worked on national stories, local stations fed up stories and anything of international importance was fed from IRN.

Surely a back up plan is in place...

They will go with other sources. Plenty of national and international news available.

How many ILRs are currently getting national news from Communicorp. Anyone have a list of where stations currently get their News?

More Music

IRN (news and sport) and Reuters/PA wires are also fed via the INN system. They are collected in Dublin, some parsing is done and then sent back out over the INN system.

Stations rely very heavily on it for the cross channel football at the weekends.

Newstalk (Communicorp) only supply 2 non Communicorp stations with news wires; both iRadio stations.

Nearly all ILR's use INN in some form or other. Most stations read their own news during the day with help from the INN wires. Then after 7pm alot of stations take the actual INN bulletin as read from Dublin.

Elmo

More Music wrote: »

Nearly all ILR's use INN in some form or other. Most stations read their own news during the day with help from the INN wires. Then after 7pm alot of stations take the actual INN bulletin as read from Dublin.

But how are local stations paying for this wire? Advertising shouldn't really effect INN only when renegotiating contracts with individual stations.

More Music

Elmo wrote: »

But how are local stations paying for this wire? Advertising shouldn't really effect INN only when renegotiating contracts with individual stations.

They are not paying INN as such, it's donkey trading for airtime.

Elmo

More Music wrote: »

They are not paying INN as such, it's donkey trading for airtime.

TBH I thought INN was the ITN of Ireland.

evilivor

Ken Murray, Political Correspondent with INN gives the inside story.

http://www.mediacontact.ie/details-news-479.html

stuartfanning

Seems you have to pay a subscription to read the article!

evilivor

stuartfanning wrote: »

Seems you have to pay a subscription to read the article!

It's an audio interview - play button after the opening para there.

Deise Tom

stuartfanning wrote: »

Seems you have to pay a subscription to read the article!

Dont know why people advertise supscriuption website and newsletters so much. Are they on commission.

evilivor

Deise Tom wrote: »

Dont know why people advertise supscriuption website and newsletters so much. Are they on commission.

Are you calling me a spammer? I posted a link to news story on the Media Content site - you do not have to be a member, afaik, to listen to it.

Elmo

evilivor wrote: »

Are you calling me a spammer? I posted a link to news story on the Media Content site - you do not have to be a member, afaik, to listen to it.

Tell us what he said it isn't loading for me. Thanks. Or copy and paste the opening paragraph.

evilivor

Elmo wrote: »

Tell us what he said it isn't loading for me. Thanks. Or copy and paste the opening paragraph.

Staff expected a few cuts then called into Boardroom and told operations were finishing - turns out RTE broke the news before they heard it.

He blames lashing egos on Board of INN, UTV - who own 40% breaking away to provide their own news service to their stations and to try to sell to the other non Communicorp indie stations.

On the other side, Communicorp want to sell their Newstalk feed to the indie stations. Two other parties interested in picking over the bones of INN.

Elmo

evilivor wrote: »

Staff expected a few cuts then called into Boardroom and told operations were finishing - turns out RTE broke the news before they heard it.

He blames lashing egos on Board of INN, UTV - who own 40% breaking away to provide their own news service to their stations and to try to sell to the other non Communicorp indie stations.

On the other side, Communicorp want to sell their Newstalk feed to the indie stations. Two other parties interested in picking over the bones of INN.

Which unfortunately is what we have been saying here on boards. Unfortunately for INN with Communicorp and UTV owning so many local stations it makes no sense for them to be get an outside company to provided national, international news to their ILRs when they can provide that themselves, while also selling their brand to other ILR such as I Radio.

He also seems to think that INN could be saved if all 16 stations outside UTV and Comunicorp pull together to get their news from one outside these big conglomerates. Also it would seem to me that both UTV and Comunicorp should have be told to sell their stakes in INN when the took over the SRH/eMap stations, form either the competition authority or the BCI.

evilivor

Elmo wrote: »

He also seems to think that INN could be saved if all 16 stations outside UTV and Comunicorp pull together to get their news from one outside these big conglomerates.

I presume that puts TCH in the picture then - they fit that bill? That was was I heard hereabouts in Cork anyway.

Elmo

evilivor wrote: »

I presume that puts TCH in the picture then - they fit that bill? That was was I heard hereabouts in Cork anyway.

I assumed that www.breakingnews.ie was an Examiner (TCH)/INN product?