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Chorus Frequencies and Hitachi TV

  • 11-11-2003 10:38am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 45


    Hey all,

    Apologies if this is a dumb question, but I need some help and Chorus support aren't much help.

    I have recently purcahsed an Hitachi widescreen tv and am having problems tuning it to my Chorus Analogue connection. The connection works as my old AIWA TV was fine with it.

    Auto tune does not pick up any channels, I then attempted to manual tune the TV and notived that the frequency range starts for 475 and goes up to 888.

    On my other TV I noticed that the Chorus channels are all on Frequencies lower than 475.

    My questions are

    1. have I bought a TV that wont operate with Chorus Analogue
    2. Would upgrading my Chorus to Digital resolve this issue?
    3. Can TV's that seem to only tune to above 400 be modified to access lower frequencies.

    Thanks a million for any help as Im distraught that Ive spent alot of money on a TV and cant use it :mad:


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭ShaneOC


    Did you by any chance purchase your TV in the UK. If so, the TV's tuner will only use the UHF band, whereas Chorus use the VHF band.


    To answer your questions:

    1) It may be possible to replace the tuner with a UHF/VHF one.
    2) Upgrading to digital would also make the problem go away as your TV would not be using a tuner at all (the set top box would do all the tuning).
    3) As point 1.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 45 laney0906


    I bought it second hand here in Ireland and was told that it was an Irish TV.

    However looking at the product information on the back of the TV it says that it was manufactured in the UK.

    I assume this is a big problem is it?

    Is there anything I can do, or have I just flushed my cash down the toilet :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭ShaneOC


    The made in UK is to be expected. I don't think there are many (if any) TV's made here.

    Give a Hitatchi dealer a call and see if it is easy to replace the tuner.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    Originally posted by laney0906
    have I just flushed my cash down the toilet

    not at all. as already said it can be used for digital television, VCR, DVD anything that uses a scart lead basically.

    you could tune all the Chorus channels in through the VCR aswell so all is not lost, assuming you have a VCR


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    There may be an option in the menu for switching between VHF and UHF (you want VHF) or between Cable (sometimes marked CC) and Air (Sometimes marked CH)

    By the sound of it though its a UK market (UHF only) set you have

    Ive often wondered why manufacturers penny pench by leaving VHF tuners off sets for the UK market. I would have thought the cost saving would be minimal (generally its cheaper to manufacture stuff with as few versions for different countries as possible) and then they have to go to the bother of bringing out an "Irish market" version anyway

    Oh and there hasnt been any TV sets manufactured in Ireland since the early 1970's


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 246 ✭✭com7


    it depends on where your living you can get uhf boxes that will solve the problem for you !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    Yes theyre known as "Tele Verta"'s or VHF to UHF convertors

    Unless you can pick one up secondhand though a cheap video (used as a tuner) and scart cable is probably more cost effective


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 12,450 Mod ✭✭✭✭dub45


    Can you not pursue this with the person you bought if from or would that mean literally pusuing them:)

    I would have thought that a lot of english market televions would be geared for cable anyway seeing as its pretty widespread over there.

    Anyways a visit to the Hitachi site might be helpful and you can download manuals here

    [www.hitachiserviceeu.com/support/guides/userguides.htm[/URL]


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 12,450 Mod ✭✭✭✭dub45


    Just had a look at the product manual for their current 28 inch ws model and it states that 100 channels can be tuned from uhf vhf and cable so its hard to belive that yours would not have the same facility! get to that site quick!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    "I would have thought that a lot of english market televions would be geared for cable anyway seeing as its pretty widespread over there"

    Some TV's/Videos etc sold in the UK have VHF/Cable tuners but many dont since any remaining analouge signals are either encrypted or (in the case of the five basic channels) distributed at UHF

    At least thats how the Belfast network operates


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 45 laney0906


    Thanks for the replies guys,

    Ive downloaded the product manaul for my model and in the speficiations it sates the following:-

    Channel Converage - UHF Channels

    Therefore Im pretty sure that this is purely a UHF TV.

    Am I safe to assume that if I buy a VCR and run the antenna through this it would work. Ive spoken to a guy at Peats and he thinks it will.

    Im of the mentality that for the cost of the Tel-Vertor I might as well spend an extra 50 quid or so and get the VCR.

    However as Im sure you can understand I really really want to be sure that a VCE will convert the signal. Am I safe to assume this?

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭ShaneOC


    Yep the video will have the correct tuner so will fix your problem. It may still be worth asking Hitachi how much a UHF/VHF tuner would cost. I can't imagine it being too much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    Yeah as long as the video has a VHF tuner (if its sold in the Republic it should have)

    Check out the price of a VHF tuner from Hitachi as well although unless youre up to fitting it yourself the cost of having it installed might be more than the tuner itself


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 12,450 Mod ✭✭✭✭dub45


    I think you will have no alternative but to connect the video by scart so dont forget that bit. Also you wont of course be able to watch one thing whle taping another.

    Have u beaten up the person who sold it to you yet?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭secret_squirrel


    you definately dont want to go down the televerta route I had 2 each lasted less than a year and at least one dud that didnt work at all. Plus there was at least one NTL channel that was beyond the reach of the televerta.

    Video option is much better.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 45 laney0906


    Thanks a million for your replies all, I bought myself a VCR last night and it works!!!

    The guy I bought the TV off is bow in Oz for a year, believe me he better stay there :0)

    Quick question for you all, now the TV is working I do get a high pitch noise coming from it, this goes away when I hold the scart connection in the back of it, however when I let it go it starts again.

    Ive tried the lead in both scart connections but the same thing happens.

    Am I right in thinking I have a dodgy scart lead or more sinister a couple of dodgy scart connectors?

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭dmeehan


    Quick question for you all, now the TV is working I do get a high pitch noise coming from it, this goes away when I hold the scart connection in the back of it, however when I let it go it starts again.
    a bit of chewing gum and some old tights will do the job

    :D:p

    sorry for being so unhelpful but i couldnt help thinking of the ad on today fm


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭secret_squirrel


    Originally posted by laney0906
    Am I right in thinking I have a dodgy scart lead or more sinister a couple of dodgy scart connectors?

    An even more sinster dodgy seller more like! Put it back in the buy and sell at a tenner more...caveat emptor and all that ;)


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 12,450 Mod ✭✭✭✭dub45


    I think it would be worth trying a different scart lead anyways!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    You could also try feeding the rf output from the video into the TV sets aerial socket (99% of videos output on UHF so you should be able to tune into that even on a UK "UHF only" TV)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭rlogue


    Funny that the UK authorities never reclaimed Bands I & III for TV over there.

    On another point - I find it mildly amusing when some of the Digitalspy muppets announce things like "I believe they still have VHF TV in Eire"

    Do they think we still have 405 here or something? :o


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