Kazaa lite want money??

Gummy Panda

I've been using kazaa lite for ages but a friend joined up to IOL today and tried to download.

It appears that you now need to purchase a membership off them. The advertise more porn, software, games and music with a membership.

Wat a load of BS!!

RapierX

No, you dont. Unless you have a mac.

parasite

he probably wento www.k-lite.tk instead of www.kazaa-lite.tk

carbsy

I wish every P2P program charged money ffs , it's got way to easy to grab software these days!

carb.

Gummy Panda

Originally posted by parasite
he probably wento www.k-lite.tk instead of www.kazaa-lite.tk

Yeah actually did mate. Thanks for the proper link. Google gave me the other one.

Sorry about that lads.

Mutant_Fruit

NO P2P app could ever charge money now. Its too late. there are too many of them out there, that if one charged, everyone would migrate away from it, and if they all charged, enough sourcecode is available for every knowlegable (however you spell that) user can easily build one and distribute it.

eirebhoy

Originally posted by carbsy
I wish every P2P program charged money ffs , it's got way to easy to grab software these days!

And thats a bad thing?

PaulMagrath

Originally posted by clownboy
Yeah actually did mate. Thanks for the proper link. Google gave me the other one.

Yeah if you had looked at the bottom of the results you would have seen this:

"In response to a complaint we received under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, we have removed 7 result(s) from this page. If you wish, you may read the DMCA complaint for these removed results."

Kazaa forced Google to remove Kazaa Lite from Google's search results.

ssh

A bunch of people are charging money for an illegal redistribution of someone else's copyrighted work, which itself is used to illegally redistribute copyrighted works. This is too funny.

dangerman

wow! just noticed that kazaa lite removed from google thing.

Thats incredible! Why can't everyone do that then? So if you search for the Matrix, you can ONLY go to the official matrix site?

Googles power lies in it's "hammer-like" searching, it finds EVERYTHING if you dig deep enough - if companies can block things based on copyright, then it's screwed. No?

PaulMagrath

Originally posted by dangerman
wow! just noticed that kazaa lite removed from google thing.

Thats incredible! Why can't everyone do that then?

It has to be a clear and flagrant breach of the Digital Millenium Copyright Act for Google to even consider doing anything and even then it takes time and the other party has of course a right to reply (prove his INNOCENCE!)

So if you search for the Matrix, you can ONLY go to the official matrix site?

No - see above.

Googles power lies in it's "hammer-like" searching, it finds EVERYTHING if you dig deep enough - if companies can block things based on copyright, then it's screwed. No?

No - all search engines are bound by the terms of the Digital Millenium Copyight Act unfortunately. (Those outside the US risk losing their domain name - inside the US: being sued until bankrupt)

JTMan

We at Slyck got served with the same DMCA notice at the same time as Google got the notice. We choose to do the same as Google and link to the DMCA notice which in turn linked to the blocked sites. We then went to remove a lot of references to the offical kazaa from Slyck. Sharman were pissed at us and begged us not to remove support for Kazaa.

No - all search engines are bound by the terms of the Digital Millenium Copyight Act unfortunately.

No - example - the DMCA notice applied to google.com only. Run a search for kazaa lite at google.co.uk and you will still get the old blocked kazaa lite links.

dangerman

whenever i read about this sort of thing i'm reminded of where we're all headed - towards systems like freenet.

http://freenet.sourceforge.net/

A great quote from that pages philosophy section:

You cannot guarantee freedom of speech and enforce copyright law


It is for this reason that Freenet, a system designed to protect Freedom of Speech, must prevent enforcement of copyright.


Fantastic.

PaulMagrath

Originally posted by Fungus
No - example - the DMCA notice applied to google.com only. Run a search for kazaa lite at google.co.uk and you will still get the old blocked kazaa lite links.

Unfortunately, you are quite wrong.

You may have been confused because of the k-lite.tk site that appears first in the list but this site is one trying to get people to pay for it.

None of the sites that offer Kazaa LIte freely and/or those who were on the list given to Kazaa by Sharman Networks are available on google.co.uk or google.com or even google.ie

However google does link at the bottom of the results to the DMCA notice which, conveniently, links to the main Kazaa Lite download sites!

PaulMagrath

I have the freenet node installed and have tryed but it is just unbearably slow even on my broadband connection.

dangerman

unbearably slow freedom of speech or no freedom of speech?

Seriuosly though, freenet is just a start. The theories of anonymous use and distributed computing etc. will eventually be the only solution. No?

PaulMagrath

Originally posted by dangerman
The theories of anonymous use and distributed computing etc. will eventually be the only solution. No?

Only solution to what problem? If you mean freedom of speech I think you are probably right.

sceptre

Originally posted by dangerman
So if you search for the Matrix, you can ONLY go to the official matrix site?

Only if the Matrix is real, the unofficial sites have instructions on how to hack it and there's a DMCA in the real world that the copyright holders of the Matrix™ 0.9 RC6 are using to protect and propagate their evilness

Of course the DMCA here only applies to people and within the US, the DMCA in the real world probably does something similar so there may be a question of jurisdiction or capacity but you don't really care about that do you. Here, take a cookie...