An aithníonn tú?/ Can you tell?

simu

An féidir leat idirdhealú a dhéanamh idir dhaoine atá ábalta an Ghaeilge a labhairt cosúil le cainteoir dúchais agus daoine go bhfuil Gaeilge cuíosach maith acu ach le blas an Bhéarla fós uirthi?

Táim ag cur na ceiste seo mar cheapas go raibh sé seo soiléir ach le déanaí chuir cara liom ceist orm an cainteoir dúchais Gaeilge cailín eile a bhfuil aithne againn uirthi - tá cúpla focal Gaeilge aici seo ach níl sí chomh maith sin agus chuir sé iontas orm nár thuig mo chara é seo!


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Can you distinguish between ppl who speak Irish like a native speaker and ppl who have some Irish but still speak it with an English accent?

I'm asking this because although I think it's obvious,recently, a friend of mine asked me if another girl we both know was a native speaker - this girl has some Irish but isn't great at the language and i was surprised that my friend didn't realise this!

Gael

90% den am d'fhéadfainn an t-idirdhealú a dhéanamh, ach anois is arís buaileann tú le cainteoir dúchais nó dhó a bhfuil Gaeilge líofa acu ach a bhfuil blas an-neodrach acu, ach is eisceachtaí iad siúd.
Ach ar an láimh eile ní chuireann do scéal-sa ionadh ar bith orm. Buailim le daoine go rialta a cheapfadh gur cainteoir dúchais tú má tá cumas labhartha ar bith agat sa Ghaeilge!

90% of the time I can differentiate, but now and again I meet a native speaker who has a very neutral accent, but they're exceptions.
On the other hand, your story doesn't surprise me. I often meet people who assume that you're a native speaker if you have any speaking ability in Irish!

sunbeam

I'm constantly meeting people who assume that I have fluent Irish just because I come from a so-called Gaeltacht area in west Mayo.

In reality very few people from where I come from are native speakers, mainly due to mass emigration over the past 150 years or so. I had 'school' Irish only and but forgotten most of that.

Johnny_the_fox

Tá brón orm a rá ac go minic tá difear an mhór idir cáinteoir ducháis agus duine atá ag foghlaim an Ghaeilge.Tá mé i mo bhall den Cumann Ghaelach agus tá mé ag foghlaim go foill ach tá daoine ann sa chumann,tá an Ghaeilge nadúrtha acu,cé go bhfuil mé líofa go leor níl ann blás céanna agam.Chomh maith le sin,tá daoine atá ag foghlaim an Ghaeilge go minic ag iarraidh blás nadúrtha agus labhraíonn siad mar cainteoir dúchais.

I'm sorry to say, but there are often large differences between the spoken Irish of a native speaker and someone who is learning Irish.I am a member of the Irish society at University and there are people in this club who are native speakers, even though I am fairly fluent at this stage I will never have the same natural to my lrish. As well as that, for people who are learning Irish, a desireable aspect of their language learning is that they speak like a native speaker. As is the case in any foreign language.