Bin charges website

william

Hi all,

For those that are interested, this site is very useful. It is run by the anti bin charge lobby group.

www.stopthebintax.com

W

tbh

Why do they post email addresses for all the councillors, but none for the protesters themselves?

It says:
"THE JAILING of Joe Higgins T.D. and Cllr. Clare Daly for a month will not break the massive opposition in Dublin to the bin tax and to the draconian policy of leaving thousands of bins of householders boycotting the bin tax uncollected."

How do you define Massive? Or even Opposition? is that reluctance to pay a charge, or a refusal?

Thousands of householders boycotting the bin tax? Really?

I totally support efforts to make sure that anyone who is on a low-income gets an exemption, but surely you can see that this is a charge that has to be paid. What about the plastic bag tax, are you against that as well?
I'm not trying to start an argument, I honestly cannot for the life of me see what it is you are trying to achieve here. What do you think will happen if the bin tax is scrapped?
My last point, if you believe in democracy, why is the minority of people holding the majority to ransom?
I'm very lucky in that I have never been out of work, and I've paid tax for nearly 12 years now. What If I gathered a mob of 200-250 like minded people, and we decided we didn't want to pay taxes to support welfare recipients. Would you support my right to do that?

I'd welcome an intelligent debate.
Caimin
PS - Apologies if this is the wrong forum for this.

steviem

I honestly don't believe the charge for one man to take your wheelie bin from the side of the road to the back of the bin lorry and then to leave it lying by the side of the road is justified at €2:96 per week. Maybe if they took it from the side of the house where it sits and then return it there then they may be able to justify a high percentage of the charge.

Mossy Monk

Originally posted by steviem
€2:96 per week

:eek: is that all it is. try paying €7.50 a week :mad: i have no sympathy at all for the protestors

that's €7.50 for each wheelie bin

daveg

Originally posted by Mossy Monk
:eek: is that all it is. try paying €7.50 a week :mad: i have no sympathy at all for the protestors

that's €7.50 for each wheelie bin

ditto. I mean WTF. We (in Galway) have been paying approx €30pm for as long as I can remember.

nagero

Originally posted by daveg
ditto. I mean WTF. We (in Galway) have been paying approx €30pm for as long as I can remember.

€15 per wheelie bin per week if you "tag a bin" in Carlow.

nagero

sionnach

in mayo we've been paying for our bin collection, water, sewage for feckin ages so stfu and stop complaining. I hafta say its nice to see this website is such an amateur job

seamus

Oh look, seems they're giving out about the Nice Treaty and Globalisation too.

Is it the same group of idiots organising EVERY campaign of protest in this country?

It says:
"THE JAILING of Joe Higgins T.D. and Cllr. Clare Daly for a month will not break the massive opposition in Dublin to the bin tax and to the draconian policy of leaving thousands of bins of householders boycotting the bin tax uncollected."

So, if the council makes a stand on its position, and refuses to collect the bins of people who don't pay, it's "draconian". But if the protestors prevent the council from collecting other people's rubbish, they're heroes for getting jailed :rolleyes:

I never thought such blatant propaganda existed in minor protest organisations.

IgnatiusJRiley

Originally posted by steviem
I honestly don't believe the charge for one man to take your wheelie bin from the side of the road to the back of the bin lorry and then to leave it lying by the side of the road is justified at €2:96 per week. Maybe if they took it from the side of the house where it sits and then return it there then they may be able to justify a high percentage of the charge.

Yes, because that's all the money is paying for. For the rubbish to be taken from the side of the road and then put in the lorry. After that it magically disappears FFS!!!

IgnatiusJRiley

Has there been a poll on whether people support the protesters or not? I'd be interested to see the results.

Typedef

Pay the bloody charge.

Since, I can't avail of the service, why should 'my' taxes go towards paying for 'your' bin charges?

Do I ask pedestrians to pay road tax?

I think not, ergo, why should others who simply can't avail of the service, pay for 'your' usage?

Ireland and the UK have the 'lowest' rate of recycling in the entire 15 member European Union, and some of the lowest rates of recycling in the Western World, and quite frankley it's a disgrace.

Fact is, money has to be derived from 'somewhere' to pay for this service.

But, for me, I honestly think that those who would protest paying the bin charge should be made live beside a landfill for a week, and lets see how vehement your opposition to pro-environmentalist moves are.

"The polluter pays", it's a simple motto and it works. Please for the love of god, stop stamping your feet like spoiled children and just pay the bloody tax!


Kind Regards
Typedef.

Winters

This wheely bin thing is very annoying. The real problem is people dont know ****e about it. Its not a double tax. Dublin is like one of the only placesin Ireland where nobody has been paying a charge for their rubbish to be collected.

Too many people dont know how the charges work. In Dublin [Fingal] area you only tag your black bin. Working in a shop that sells the bin tags i am sick of having to explan to every dumbass that walks in there that you only tag your black bin, not the green bin. The green bin charge is included in the black bin tag.

There are also 4 differant kinds of bin tags. Yellow [€5], which is used by the majority of people (90% of people reading this will be/should be using the Yellow tag). The €3, the €2.50 and that other one i cant quite remember, €4 or something. The cheaper ones are for the smaller bins used by 'older' people and others are for people on Social Welfare [i think] and the other one is for people who actucully dont have a green bin [blue tag if my memory is correct].

Also, you only need to put a tag on your bin when its being collected. So if your bin is only half full .. dont put it out and save yourself €5. Wait till the next week. The charge is aimed at stopping people from putting half empty bins out every week aswell as getting funding to dispose of all the waste we are producing. So the less you put out the bin the more you save, and its free to put out your green bin, you only pay for the black bin!

So what did we learn?

* Winters

Big Chief

got this in a email the other day, seems pretty fitting..

Don1

In all fairness, Dublin produces more waste than any other County in Ireland (due solely to it's population density), then dumps it in the surrounding counties and the poulation expect to pay noting for the privelage? This is highly ridiculous when you considder the exhorbitant bin charges in other parts of Ireland that actually dispose of their own sh*t!!!

And Big Cheif, nice one.