Fileshare app of choice?

ArthurG · 18-10-2003 8:44am #1

Apologies if this is in wrong forum....

Now that I'm nice and ADSL enabled, what is the general opinion of the best fileshar app?. Am wary of Kazaa, what what with all the nasties it installs.

Thanks guys.

ixoy · 18-10-2003 9:02am

It depends on what you want to fileshare....

I like BitTorrent anyways. When you're downloading a file (or "torrent" as it's known because it can contain more than one file), you're also uploading what you've already downloaded (no choice). It stops people leeching. The ratio of downloading/uploading varies but it can be a bit annoying if the upload/download is something like 1.7 on a 500mb file when you know you've got a cap.....

The Brigadier · 18-10-2003 10:49am

Direct Connect if you have stuff to share...

18-10-2003 11:42am

Kazaalite for music and bit torrent for other stuff. Wouldnt touch regular kazaa.

cmdrpaddy · 18-10-2003 11:48am

if you ever used audiogalaxy then go to www.gltpoliane.cjb.com its a clone if AG. Emule is also a good option if you use www.sharereactor.com but with emule you have to leave it running for it to be any good.

Tazzle · 18-10-2003 1:38pm

IRC xdcc - www.packetnews.com

Mutant_Fruit · 18-10-2003 1:42pm

Bittorrent is the best one imo. I use the Burst client, and i generally find it quite fast. AND theres no fakes WHATSOEVER!

CyberGhost · 20-10-2003 4:06am

"but with emule you have to leave it running for it to be any good."

sorry i didn't get it, don't you have to leave bittorrent clients on to download too?

btw isn't bit torrent a protocol? so if i install emule plus can i use bit torrent with it?

El_MUERkO · 20-10-2003 8:50am

Bit Torrent with the RVS client, problem is you need a good upload speed to get a good download speed so it can be frustratingly slow.

One good thing is you know your getting what you ask for unlike Kazza or Emule.

JTMan · 20-10-2003 9:06am

Originally posted by cmdrpaddy
if you ever used audiogalaxy then go to www.gltpoliane.cjb.com its a clone if AG.

Interesting ... Did you get the URL correct? I cannot access the site.

CyberGhost · 20-10-2003 1:02pm

what does RVS stand for?

tomk · 20-10-2003 4:07pm

Originally posted by cmdrpaddy
if you ever used audiogalaxy then go to www.gltpoliane.cjb.com its a clone if AG.

I think you meant http://www.gltpoliane.cjb.net , right?

Mutant_Fruit · 21-10-2003 7:58am

I cap my Bittorrent upload speed to 4kb's, and i can still download at up to 50kb's from it! Use a program like netlimiter to reduce its usage. Works perfectly.

1.5 gigs completed overnight.

RE*AC*TOR · 21-10-2003 11:46am

I recommend IRC - you don't upload anything - its leaching only - its fast - all the newest stuff. Bittorrent is great but you upload at the same time - and usually the same amount - wouldn't recommend capping your upload as it will harm other people's downloads - not really in the spirit of sharing.

Boro · 21-10-2003 11:51am

With IRC though you often have to queue in DCC for ages.

RE*AC*TOR · 21-10-2003 12:04pm

sometimes it can take a while - but shop around - usually you'll only be waiting if something is just out - so look for soemone with a lot of slots on ircspy or packetnews. The speeds can be fantastic though once it gets going.

ixoy · 21-10-2003 12:24pm

Originally posted by Mutant_Fruit
I cap my Bittorrent upload speed to 4kb's, and i can still download at up to 50kb's from it! Use a program like netlimiter to reduce its usage. Works perfectly.

1.5 gigs completed overnight.

Is this the best way to do it? I can't do it from the BitTorrent client itself. If so - handy tip!

po0k · 21-10-2003 3:08pm

Originally posted by tomk
I think you meant http://www.gltpoliane.cjb.net , right?

What port(s) does that use?*
I'm impatiently waiting for the linux version

*Please say 21

Mutant_Fruit · 21-10-2003 3:16pm

Its up to each person whether they want to cap or not, i know i've seeded files in Bittorrent before, for several days.

Is this the best way to do it? I can't do it from the BitTorrent client itself. If so - handy tip!

Most clients only allow you to set the upload speed as 10kb's minumum, or they limit your download speed because you've limited your upload so low, my method makes bittorrent think it has unlimited upload access, and so you will always be able to get full speeds, and after you can limit it externally (with Netlimiter) to a very low upload speed, but if you make it too low, you will shoot yourself in the foot, as it needs some upload bandwidth to manage the downloads.

gimme · 21-10-2003 3:25pm

people like you should be taken out and shot.
take take take.

Mutant_Fruit · 21-10-2003 5:27pm

Shot, i think i should be applauded! Using Linux instead of going with the traditional buggy OS shoud be recommeneded for everyone! Its not my fault if i don't want people to use up my bandwidth overly much. I want my linux distros tonight, not next week. And since no connection in ireland is full-duplex, i can;t get full speeds down AND up at the same time.

cmdrpaddy · 21-10-2003 6:47pm

sorry yes it is www.gltpoliane.cjb.net its been down for a few days, server trouble.

sorry i didn't get it, don't you have to leave bittorrent clients on to download too?

ya sorry, you have to leave emule on not only to get the file but to build up any sort of decent speed. if you are downloading a file you could be on other peoples queues and if you disconnect and reconnect you lose your position in the queue. i dont know much about bit torrent ive only just got it but i hear its great.

Celt · 21-10-2003 7:27pm

Originally posted by gimme
people like you should be taken out and shot.
take take take.

99% of the time I'm using bittorrent, my upload is greater then my download.
Considering my max dl is 80k/s and my max upload is 12k/s, this sucks.

TacT · 21-10-2003 7:37pm

Originally posted by Mutant_Fruit
Shot, i think i should be applauded! Using Linux instead of going with the traditional buggy OS shoud be recommeneded for everyone! Its not my fault if i don't want people to use up my bandwidth overly much. I want my linux distros tonight, not next week. And since no connection in ireland is full-duplex, i can;t get full speeds down AND up at the same time.

You don't share, you leech, there's a difference there that annoys more users more than anything else, myself included.

Here we are sharing/seeding files for people only to have greedy, self-centred sods with no patience like you mess it up for everyone else.

/me applauds your superbly lame way of "sharing"

Have you guessed yet? I use bittorent and I'm sick of leeches like you killing the experience for others

ando · 21-10-2003 7:42pm

there's also sites on the net where you can download at max speeds (ie, 55KBps) and no uploads involved. Your downloading off fixed servers, not other users. Thats where I get my *stuff* from

Lenny · 21-10-2003 8:04pm

Originally posted by cmdrpaddy
if you ever used audiogalaxy then go to www.gltpoliane.cjb.com its a clone if AG. Emule is also a good option if you use www.sharereactor.com but with emule you have to leave it running for it to be any good.

AG was the best ever for music, espically live sets.
Many people have this new clone? is it anyway close good to AgG?

cmdrpaddy · 21-10-2003 9:49pm

its as good as AG in terms of stability and program features, but it suffers from a lack of users, there is just under 11,000 users now but only a few weeks ago it was around 2,000 so it is growing quite a bit. There is some trouble when it comes to seeing how many files you share, but others can still download them off you.

PiE · 21-10-2003 10:18pm

God I wish AG was still around

Though I suppose I'll keep on eye on that GLT Polaine thing in case it starts getting good (there's only about 50 users online right now).

suppafly · 21-10-2003 10:40pm

So does anybody use Earth station? I heard about it awhile ago but i never used it. Its 'supposed' to be more secure and stuff. So has anybody got any experience with it and whats it like?

www.earthstation5.com

also can u set yur filesharing apps(kazaa lite) to use yur AV to scan downloads automatically like getright?

CyberGhost · 21-10-2003 11:57pm

P2P is all about sharing, and cutting uploads to others while downloading stuff at the max from the others is NOT good!

and btw is gltpoliane client better than kazaa's music? i mean which has more mp3s?

IrishMike · 22-10-2003 12:46am

Ok heres my take on p2p

Anyone who uses hacked clients to stop uploading is an asshole
Its people like that who slow the downloads in the first place

As 4 apps heres my experience

Bittorrent : By far the best. Very fast very stable and there is a
lot of stuff to get. Best used with a site like suprnova.org

Kazaa : Avoid use kazaalite. Good 4 mp3's or with that verified
downloads site. Full of fakes though, i generally avoid it

Edonkey/Emule/Overnet : All esentially using the same network
I use emule because i get better speeds. Huge and i mean huge
amounts of info on this network. Speeds are generally slow but
if u dont have 2 worry about a cap (like me) then just cue a few
files (right now ive 76) and let them download over the course of
a few days. Sharereactor provides a great index of available files

Direct Connect : Huge and i mean huge amounts of info. Very few
fakes. I found it slow though for the most part. Its like irc but just
a lot more to download. Worth a look

Earthstation 5 : Good idea rubbish implementation. I installed it
deleted it 5 mins later.

IRC : All 0day stuff. Can be forced to queue for a long time but
usually worth the effort.

Ftp : By far the easiest way and the fastest if u have the contacts

Thats my take on what to use to get ur downloads
Enjoy

El_MUERkO · 22-10-2003 8:57am

Originally posted by TacT
You don't share, you leech, there's a difference there that annoys more users more than anything else, myself included.

Here we are sharing/seeding files for people only to have greedy, self-centred sods with no patience like you mess it up for everyone else.

/me applauds your superbly lame way of "sharing"

Have you guessed yet? I use bittorent and I'm sick of leeches like you killing the experience for others

I download from bt, I'd love to get fast download speeds but I dont, Mutants idea of using netlimiter increased my download speed a fair bit, I'm uploading at 10kb and downloading between 7 & 25kb whereas before I was uploading at 12/17 and downloading between 5 and 12.

I seed after I finish downloading, when I woke up this morning I'd uploaded over 800 meg, wanting a faster download is no great crime and I dont feel I'm robbing from anyone when I upload 3/4 times what I download.

RE*AC*TOR · 22-10-2003 10:10am

"Kazaa : Avoid use kazaalite. Good 4 mp3's or with that verified
downloads site. Full of fakes though, i generally avoid it
"

Why oh why would you avoid using kazaalite? Kazaa MD is full of spyware and adware - who wants that? Kazaalite is a far more useful program.

cmdrpaddy · 22-10-2003 10:39am

keep away from earthstation 5. http://www.zeropaid.com/news/articles/auto/10022003i.php it seems to be pretty dodgey.

quaalude · 22-10-2003 12:47pm

Downloading from binary newsgroups is good too.

I use Easynews (http://www.easynews.com/) - it's $10 a month, but totally worth it. It's a bit of a pain to figure out at the start, but when you've got the hang of it it's great.
There's a week trial available so you can see if you like it, but you need to enter your credit card number for this.

po0k · 22-10-2003 1:42pm

Originally posted by davidwwalsh
"Kazaa : Avoid use kazaalite. Good 4 mp3's or with that verified
downloads site. Full of fakes though, i generally avoid it
"

Why oh why would you avoid using kazaalite? Kazaa MD is full of spyware and adware - who wants that? Kazaalite is a far more useful program.

he means "Kazaa: Avoid. Use Kazaalite instead".

Mutant_Fruit · 22-10-2003 9:38pm

P2P is all about sharing, and cutting uploads to others while downloading stuff at the max from the others is NOT good!

I suppose i shouldhave made my position clearer... i DO limit my uplaods when i want something. I have no qualms about limiting my upload really slow, so i can finish the latest distros in one night.

BUT, what i forgot to say was that i UNlimit it afterwards (e.g. the next morning). So far on my connection i've an Upload:Download ratio of about 1.25-1 (ish). Thats inthe spirit of sharing! However my isp don;t like that, so i've cut back a lot lately, in both downloading and uploading.

suppafly · 22-10-2003 10:50pm

Originally posted by cmdrpaddy
keep away from earthstation 5. http://www.zeropaid.com/news/articles/auto/10022003i.php it seems to be pretty dodgey.

yeah that sounds well dodgy. I well glad that i didn't install it. I thought it did sound a bit off when i fist saw it too.

CyberGhost · 23-10-2003 12:18am

kazaalite is very good for music, but i get lots of frame damaged movies from it, as for fakes use kazaa file verificator

BigEejit · 23-10-2003 8:06am

Originally posted by CyberGhost
kazaalite is very good for music, but i get lots of frame damaged movies from it, as for fakes use kazaa file verificator

Never heard of it [edit] by IT I mean "kazaa file verificator"[/edit].... does it work?, can it spot bollixed up movies / mp3's BEFORE you download the feckers ....

ahem .. I am of course talking about legitimate, copyright free movies and mp3's

Mutant_Fruit · 23-10-2003 3:26pm

kazaalite is very good for music, but i get lots of frame damaged movies from it, as for fakes use kazaa file verificator

Bittorrent ain;t the best for music, but rocks for movies... check it out. i have yet to get a corrupted download or bad avi or a fake off it! but i havn;t used it for much other than my linux download, and a few apps.

CyberGhost · 24-10-2003 5:35am

Thanks!, i'm pretty pissed off at downloading 600 mb movie only to find out that it has corrupted frames, but i think the cause of kazaa having corrupted frames is that, i usually have couple of BSODs while downloading and have to restart my pc, maybe causes it?

Mutant_Fruit · 24-10-2003 6:59am

did i mention it is impossible to get a corrupt download off Bittorrent, unless the origional source was corrupt

El_MUERkO · 24-10-2003 8:41am

Sell it mutant!!!, we'll convert the philistines yet!

cmdrpaddy · 24-10-2003 10:03am

a good source of music for emule is http://www.musicdonkey.net/
lots of stuff.

elexes · 24-10-2003 10:56am

could somone pm me a few Bittorrent, sites as ive lost the one i usualy went to and broadband should be installed very soon

BArra · 24-10-2003 11:17am

google supernova

Mutant_Fruit · 24-10-2003 12:43pm

**cough suprnova cough** theres no e

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