why Northern Ireland is CRAP!

Aindriu

I just came across this section and you would know that its the crappy 6 counties alright. Northern Ireland is crap cos:

No one is discussing any issues. I tried arguing this in '10 reasons not to unite Ireland' but people disagreed. Northern Irish people/Northern Irish United kindom'ers cant seem to talk abut anything just lots of noise. Its impossible to have a meanigful converstation with anyone from the north (i.e 6 counties).

Northern Ireland is crap at all sports. They cant play Gaelic and Armagh/Tyrone shouldnt have made it to the all Ireland final. It was crap, lots of fights like i said there would be (GAA thread) and no skill invovled. It brought the game to a new low level.

None of the 6 counties will ever win the hurling all ireland EVER in the history of time, unless the team isnt from the north. Thats how crap they are at hurling.

Thats why all those Northern Irish/Northern Irish United kindom'ers support the Republic of Ireland football team, cos Northern Ireland is a laughing joke hahahahahaaha why do they support a foreign team anyway? I wouldnt support England!

The northern Ireland economy is a false economy and the vast majority of spending come's through by the London administration, it just goes to show how bad northern's are at doing business like cuba. It highlights the fact that they are a bunch of spungers that dont contribute anything positve to the UK. The people are either stupid or lazy (or both?)

The north is a racist state which can barely tolerate two traditions let alone foreigners.

Northern Irish T.V is the worst ive seen since I was watching tv from Albania!! Its terrible producing, no real issues to discuss, cheesy and sickening.

Ulsterbus is worse than Bus Éireann (thats Eireann if you dont get the É abroad, its our national bus company and they are bad!), there is less leg room, there is no such thing as express service (even though the falsly advertise there is??) and there is no integerated aproach taken to transport. Why have they stopped supporting the ISIC card and made their own? cos they are stupid and close minded people.

The roads in the north are crap. the M1 is just a big traffic jam in the mornings and evenings. They have spent the last year widening it, without ANY VISIBLE IMPROVEMENTS???

Who thought of putting the International Airport way out there ??
hahahaha they were really joking or something!!!

Johnny_the_fox

No one is discussing any issues. I tried arguing this in '10 reasons not to unite Ireland' but people disagreed. Northern Irish people/Northern Irish United kindom'ers cant seem to talk abut anything just lots of noise. Its impossible to have a meanigful converstation with anyone from the north (i.e 6 counties).

that is probably why we are still divided - we cant agree on things. The 6 counties has benefited a lot from being part of Britain - e.g. free health care etc. compared to the south which is apparently in a load of cac

Northern Ireland is crap at all sports. They cant play Gaelic and Armagh/Tyrone shouldnt have made it to the all Ireland final. It was crap, lots of fights like i said there would be (GAA thread) and no skill invovled. It brought the game to a new low level.

Armagh/Tyrone bought "new thinking" to the Gaelic. It will become alot more tactical. Alot better than kicking the ball to the full forward and him sticking it over the bar...

None of the 6 counties will ever win the hurling all ireland EVER in the history of time, unless the team isnt from the north. Thats how crap they are at hurling.

Very few schools in the north play hurling.. if its not supported at school level... you dont produce players.. if you dont produce players ... blah blah blah .. you get my point.

Thats why all those Northern Irish/Northern Irish United kindom'ers support the Republic of Ireland football team, cos Northern Ireland is a laughing joke hahahahahaaha why do they support a foreign team anyway? I wouldnt support England!

We are support the Rep of Ireland because we are irish...

Why have they stopped supporting the ISIC card and made their own? cos they are stupid and close minded people.

I far as I know ISIC went bankrupted and couldnt afford to pay Translink for the student travel discount. So Translink created their own Card.

The roads in the north are crap. the M1 is just a big traffic jam in the mornings and evenings. They have spent the last year widening it, without ANY VISIBLE IMPROVEMENTS???

If you leave earlier you miss the traffic...

Who thought of putting the International Airport way out there ??
hahahaha they were really joking or something!!!

Its a alot better than going to "out of reach" Shannon

][cEMAN**

Aindriu personally I find the fact that you wrote this deeply offensive. It shows just how closed minded you yourself are. You're trying to lay down different issues which you have basis of backing for and just give opinions and not arguments or ideas/proof.

If you think people just make noise then I don't think you're listening, or not listening to the right people. Everybody seems to have an opinion on the political situation in the north - but most of the opinions are uneducated and unfounded. As for sports, well to cover both aspects - no offense (because I support them) but the Republic of Ireland have never won a world cup and are unlikely to ever do so. We are happy that they reach the semi's and realistically we know that we should be happy with that alone. ROI football team is not a foreign team because the people who support it consider themselves to be irish and that the north/south devide to be purely a political aspect rather than a nationality one. Also a lot of people would consider the Northern Ireland team to be a politically unionist team rather than anything else. I don't even know if this is true but I know a lot of people who consider this. So their lack of support would be political to the same reason for not supporting England (though technically N.I. is part of the UK).

To mention the north for hurling and gaelic is a bit pointless because as fox mentioned, there is a rarity of schools which even support the sport. It's not a mainstream thing. Football would be the common sport.

Antisocialiser

just a * tbh.


*no need for that - Johnny

Aindriu

Armagh/Tyrone bought "new thinking" to the Gaelic. It will become alot more tactical. Alot better than kicking the ball to the full forward and him sticking it over the bar...

Yeah and they brought lots of fights as well did u see that?? crowdin players out of it isnt skill.

that is probably why we are still divided - we cant agree on things. The 6 counties has benefited a lot from being part of Britain - e.g. free health care etc. compared to the south which is apparently in a load of cac

Sponger in evidence. the northern Ireland state is a uneconmical basket case.

Very few schools in the north play hurling.. if its not supported at school level... you dont produce players.. if you dont produce players ... blah blah blah .. you get my point.

yeah right! like you will ever win an all ireland hurling final, just admit that northerns cant play ANY sports.

We are support the Rep of Ireland because we are irish...

? nope, maybe with the belfast agreement you can apply for an irish passport but calling yourself irish is another arguement. People in the 26 counties are irish if they are born there because that is the state of Ireland. People born in N.I arent irish becuase they were born in the U.K. This of course is seperate to being british (great britain Scotland England and Wales) so N.I people or either northern Irish or Irish United kindomers. Theres a difference.

If you leave earlier you miss the traffic...

If you dont have to travel on it then you dont even have to notice the BAD traffic management and pathetic slow builders. N.I infastructure is crap.

Its a alot better than going to "out of reach" Shannon

Its my understanding that there is a plan to introduce a €60m commuter rail-link between Shannon, Limerick and Ennis. This is on top of constructing a €150m redevelopment of Shannon Town Centre. It will serve the region well

Aindriu personally I find the fact that you wrote this deeply offensive. It shows just how closed minded you yourself are. You're trying to lay down different issues which you have basis of backing for and just give opinions and not arguments or ideas/proof.

im just availing of freedom of speech and pointing out a few thoughts, i have no political agenda, im just saying that N.I is a dump.

but the Republic of Ireland have never won a world cup and are unlikely to ever do so.

Negativity... a brand from the north!! Northern sport (general mindset) is inheritently negative. Maybe thats why there are crap. An attitude like that is what cost us matches in Rugby in previous years and in Soccer.

Antisocialiser :just a * tbh.

yeah good post there Antisocialiser....*

Please set me on the right path and point out the good points in N.I, like positive aspects to life there or great achivements????

Johnny_the_fox

Originally posted by Aindriu

Please set me on the right path and point out the good points in N.I, like positive aspects to life there or great achivements????

some great acheivements of the north:

Sport:
Football - George Best (probably the best footballer in the world during the 1960's... European Footballer of the Year in 1968)
Football - Pat Jennings (119 caps for the North)
Athletics - Mary Peters (won the Olympic pentathlon title with a world record 4801 points)
Horse Racing - Tony McCoy (record of 269 winners in a season)
Snooker - Alex Higgins (1972 world champion)
Motorcycling - Joey Dunlop (winning 26 Isle of Man TTs)

Music:
Van Morrison, Gary Moore, Phil Coulter... to name a few..

Other:
Author - C S Lewis (wrote the Chronicles of Narnia)
Poet - Seamus Heaney (Nobel Prize for Literature)
Poet - Paul Muldoon
Actor - Liam Neeson (Schindler's List, star wars)
Actor - Sam Neill (Jurassic Park, Event Horizon and The Piano)
Actor - Stephen Rea
Terence Bannon (reached the top of Everest)

oh aye...
President of "Ireland" - Mary McAleese ... Born and educated in Northern Ireland

Oh let us not forget, the north is the land of Finn McCool and St Patrick (who is the centre "irish" culture)...

][cEMAN**

? nope, maybe with the belfast agreement you can apply for an irish passport but calling yourself irish is another arguement. People in the 26 counties are irish if they are born there because that is the state of Ireland. People born in N.I arent irish becuase they were born in the U.K. This of course is seperate to being british (great britain Scotland England and Wales) so N.I people or either northern Irish or Irish United kindomers. Theres a difference.

OK let me put this straight for everybody who obviously hasn't got a clue. We ALL live in a country called ireland. People who live in the south live in the REPUBLIC of that country. People who live in the north live in the NORTH of that country. But both are from the country called ireland. That makes us IRISH.

As for knowing that ireland will not win the world cup for a great many years - well will they? Are you going to manage the team and prove me wrong? Besides in saying that the best time they've had so far in the world cup was managed by an englishman. I think you're just grasping at straws, and the fact that you can't even see what's in front of you just shows how blind bigots are.

As for free speech, well I also have free speech to talk about your mother but I choose not to excersise that right. But then think about it, little babies have free speech but you don't get much sense out of them. Maybe that's what's happening with you here.

Talking about traffic as well...well lets see. Every time I travel to Galway it takes an HOUR to get into the city in the last couple of miles all the way there. And don't get me started on the state of the roads on the way there in the first place!

Tell me something, does your selective sight do you justice as well when you're standing infront of a mirror wondering if you're ever going to get laid? It just seems to me that this is the same propaganda bullshit that i've heard from everyone who has never lived in the north. It has no basis of fact on the most part, and generally it's just insulting because some people think they're better than others.

][cEMAN**

Originally posted by Johnny_the_fox
some great acheivements of the north:

Sport:
Football - George Best (probably the best footballer in the world during the 1960's... European Footballer of the Year in 1968)

Actually he's considered by those in the know of football, to be one of the greatest footballers in the world ever.

Just to remind the originator of this thread with selective vision of the world around them

Yavvy

Armagh/Tyrone bought "new thinking" to the Gaelic. It will become alot more tactical. Alot better than kicking the ball to the full forward and him sticking it over the bar...

Johnny I think you may be right on this...But The new thinking will come from southern football. Southern football (Dublin, Kerry, Cork, Galway, Laois and kildare) will have to change their style to compensate for the boring tactics of Armagh/tyrone/Donegal

Kicking the ball to the full forward will actually increase IMO. The only way to beat the " blanket defence will be fast play out of the backs and midfield, patient attacking movement ( I dont think forwards move around enough) and walking the ball to the bar will not be an option anymore.

Oh and defenders will have to learn to avoid tackeling in a way that forwars can Dive...I think thats my biggest problem with northern football. Diving..whoed of thunk it ?

Yavvy

other than football I really like the North..I dont agree with that eejit Aindriu on any of his other points.

pauldeehan

Originally posted by ][cEMAN**
OK let me put this straight for everybody who obviously hasn't got a clue. We ALL live in a country called ireland. People who live in the south live in the REPUBLIC of that country. People who live in the north live in the NORTH of that country. But both are from the country called ireland. That makes us IRISH.

Thanks mate, you've put it quite well. I'd have just waded in swearing blind and yelling.

And Johnny, you didn't mention The Undertones!!!

][cEMAN**

Hahahahahaha. If you're going to mention the undertones you have to mention everyone else. And though Ash aren't too bad, it leaves wide open a whole bunch of second rate talent like D'ream and Nadine Coyle Urgh!

PS. Turtle power makes you eat loads of pizza

Aindriu

OK let me put this straight for everybody who obviously hasn't got a clue. We ALL live in a country called ireland. People who live in the south live in the REPUBLIC of that country. People who live in the north live in the NORTH of that country. But both are from the country called ireland. That makes us IRISH.

No it doesnt, your not irish. Your nothern Irish/Irish United kindgomer. Go look it up the technical definition. Are you stupid or somethin?

As for knowing that ireland will not win the world cup for a great many years - well will they? Are you going to manage the team and prove me wrong? Besides in saying that the best time they've had so far in the world cup was managed by an englishman. I think you're just grasping at straws, and the fact that you can't even see what's in front of you just shows how blind bigots are.

Blah blah ... what a load of rubbish. I just pointed out how you northerners are so negative and now your backtracking. We got to the quarter finals and there is no reason to stop us going to the semi's at least,only negative attitudes like yours, go support northern Ireland-- fool.

well I also have free speech to talk about your mother but I choose not to excersise that right. But then think about it, little babies have free speech but you don't get much sense out of them. Maybe that's what's happening with you here.

just another example of how quick northerners degrade into a slander match.

Mary McAleese not a patch on Mary Robinson, she only got elected cos she was a woman and there was nobody else running for it.

Cant talk about issues, you know the north is a dump and wont admit it. HAHAHAHA a stinking rotten hole, thank fcuk i dont live there!!!!!!!!

HAHAHAHAHA you slaging me and your livin bummy wit all those scummy people ?? wit u and all ur crappy towns shuttin down at 6pm!

what a dump !

Aindriu

I came across this ..........


North is no place to be ‘different’
Fionnuala O Connor
The Irish Times
5th September 2003

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Upper Donegall Street, where North Belfast begins, is cheerless at first sight. The heavy darkness of St Patrick’s church frowns down on it, an elderly undertaker faces the dated premises of the city’s aged Catholic daily, the Irish News. Then a larger than life statue of Lenin momentarily confuses the eye, over the entrance to “the Kremlin” gay bar and leisure club.

Donegall Street residents who have weathered bombings and sectarian killings tend to shrug off the four year old newcomer. Visitors sometimes smile to see the old murderer Lenin blessing a playground of modern homosexuality.

But as a sizeable Belfast Telegraph feature last month headlined “Gay life in Ulster” remarked, the Kremlin is only the first gay bar in Belfast since a couple of business failures over the past few years. The upfront Kremlin is the exception. In most of Northern society, life is still uneasy for people who are noticeably other than white and heterosexual.

Belfast is not a big city. The benefit of urban anonymity just about accommodates the mildest social nonconformity: a crowded weekly gay disco, soft drug use, unmarried couples living together. In smaller towns and the countryside, many for generations have fled local reclusion towards their “difference”, whatever that happened to be, to Belfast, England or America, some to Dublin. There is a cruel explanation for the comparatively small Northern death toll from AIDS at the peak of the illness’s threat. As in small places from Mayo to Minnesota, the sick fled to live or die among strangers.

Sill overwhelmingly conservative and Caucasian, the unchanged public face of Northern Ireland ignores private upheavals in many families over the past 20 years and presents a marked contrast to the transformation, however uneven, of life in the Republic. As official reports confirm, the statistics that bear out widespread experience and anecdotal wisdom, in one respect prejudice and bigotry are elastic. Many who are anti-Protestant or anti-Catholic are also racist and homophobic: the wrangling of traditional politics has yet to scratch that surface.

A report in July on homophobic violence and harassment called “An Acceptable Prejudice” found the percentage of people who had suffered such attacks was higher than in Britain or the Republic. The most peaceful marching season for decades across Catholic/Protestant lines also brought attacks on Filipino nurses in Co Antrim and on African students, nurses and asylum-seekers in Belfast, following accounts of racist abuse suffered by Portuguese workers in Portadown and Coalisland and the year-round reports of aggression by customers in Chinese takeaways and restaurants. A rise in the number of immigrants may be one factor in increased abuse, though some think that a kind interpretation: instead they suggest that the comparatively tiny ethnic minority numbers until this point stayed silent about the ugliness they faced. One African thought the rise in reported attacks might be due to the peace process. “When you are not fighting who you have been fighting, people like to turn to an alternative.”

The Northern Ireland Equality Commission said recently that the incidence of racist attacks was much higher than in England and Wales. But many organisations had “yet to consider the issue of race in a serious fashion”. Though legislation against incitement to hatred has had little effect, the commission is optimistic about the promise to prosecute “manifestations of hatred”.

More than 14,000 Northern residents of an identifiable “ethnic minority! Origin were counted by the last census: “Irish Traveller, Mixed, Indian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi, Other Asian, Black Caribbean, Black African, Other Black, Chinese, other ethnic group.” In a finding which should probably strike a chord in the Republic “significant more negative attitudes towards Travellers than any other group”.

A study of Chinese, African, Indian and Traveller communities found that two-thirds of their schoolchildren had been taunted by other pupils: 14 per cent had been assaulted. The then education minister, Martin McGuiness, called this racist bullying and promised he would tackle it, to predatory mockery.

Daunting findings, but there are changes, too. Just around the corner from Upper Donegall Street, the Belfast Telegraph is no shining liberal light: yet their gay interviews across three striking pages three weeks ago were sympathetic and deftly written albeit not advertised as usual on the front page.

In June the Irish News, launched by the bishops against the adulterer Parnell, ran a sizeable feature to publicise a new weekly clinic on sexually-transmitted diseases and contraception for boys and young men. On page 29, but even so, the sympathy must have been a pleasant surprise for the Brook Advisory Centre, picketed throughout its existence by a mix of Protestant and Catholic fundamentalists – who agree on this if on little else.

eth0_

Originally posted by Aindriu
No it doesnt, your not irish. Your nothern Irish/Irish United kindgomer. Go look it up the technical definition. Are you stupid or somethin?

I think you're the stupid one, love, a stupid little pr1ck at that. I'm from Belfast and have been living in the republic for 12 years now, and my Irish passport says i'm Irish, and my UK passport says i'm Irish too.

N Ireland isn't crap. What's crap about a state where people under the age of 30 can actually afford a house ON THEIR OWN! And where you can afford to drive a new car when you're under 25! The roads in N Ireland are immeasurably better than in the rep, anyone can tell you that!
Shops there don't rip you off, tesco is up to a third cheaper in N.I, and as for closing at 6pm, that dates back to the days when 'the troubles' were rampant and parts of Belfast city centre were gated off at 6pm and shut on Sundays. But erm....last time I was in Belfast the late night shopping was till 10pm, and there's LOADS of shopping villages open till midnight or even 24 hours.

Add to this the fact N Ireland is going to have 100% broadband coverage at 2mb in the next 1-2 years, does it look so sh1t now?

I get the feeling you haven't even BEEN there and are just a hatemongering troll. I could even call you 'racist' to the people of N Ireland because your attitude is just plain offensive. Which is why i'm reporting you to the mods.

Have a nice day, newbie brat.

Aindriu

HAHAHAHAHAHA


go ahead u little fool !

il post u l8r

eth0_

Originally posted by Aindriu

Thats why all those Northern Irish/Northern Irish United kindom'ers support the Republic of Ireland football team, cos Northern Ireland is a laughing joke hahahahahaaha why do they support a foreign team anyway? I wouldnt support England!

God you really are thick and ill-informed. Catholics do not support Northern Ireland, this is a 'tradition' going back a very long time because the N Ireland team is predominatly a protestant team. No protestants support Ireland.

The north isa racist state which can barely tolerate two traditions let alone foreigners.

Bullsh1t. There are FAR more instances of racist violence in the republic, one could say this is because the Irish gov opened the floodgates to asylum seekers and the UK is much stricter about who they let in. I never saw any racist abuse when I was at school in Belfast..

Northern Irish T.V is the worst ive seen since I was watching tv from Albania!! Its terrible producing, no real issues to discuss, cheesy and sickening.

I doubt you've ever seen TV from Albania, chief. It's no worse than the dross RTE produce. You might not 'get' Northern Irish/Ulster scots comedy...i'll give you that..it is very colloquial.

Ulsterbus is worse than Bus Éireann (thats Eireann if you dont get the É abroad, its our national bus company and they are bad!), there is less leg room, there is no such thing as express service (even though the falsly advertise there is??) and there is no integerated aproach taken to transport. Why have they stopped supporting the ISIC card and made their own? cos they are stupid and close minded people.

Ok you've DEFINITELY never been on an ulster bus. They're grand. Cheaper than B.E, buses actually run to the timetable, and integrated? Bus and rail are THE SAME COMPANY. Great victoria bus and rail station being a prime example!
Bus Eireann and Iarnrod Eireann have also stopped supporting the ISIC (except for foreign students). Please get your FACTS RIGHT.

The roads in the north are crap. the M1 is just a big traffic jam in the mornings and evenings. They have spent the last year widening it, without ANY VISIBLE IMPROVEMENTS???

And we have no traffic jams in the Republic?

Who thought of putting the International Airport way out there ??
hahahaha they were really joking or something!!!

Way out where? Aldergrove is a 30 minute (same time it takes to get from Dublin city to Dublin airport I think you'll find) £2 bus journey. There's an airport in the city, about 4 miles from the city centre as well.

eth0_

Originally posted by Aindriu
HAHAHAHAHAHA


go ahead u little fool !

il post u l8r

So much anger in someone so young
Why all the rage, lil guy? Frustrated at your poor grasp of literacy? :-(

Johnny_the_fox

Aindriu banned for abusive attitude and comments made.

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