UTVIp without ICS?

Hobbes

Is it possible to get a setup without ICS to hook up machines to UTVIp?

Do I need.

ADSL Modem
|
ADSL Router
|
Firewall
|
HUB
|
Machines?

Is that the right order? Is it possible to set user/password that way? Anyone done a setup like this? What is recommended for each?

I currently have 5 machines running via ICS which is great (and amazing I am keeping well within my limit) however I don't like having the main machine on for long periods of time.

Ripwave

Originally posted by Hobbes
Is it possible to get a setup without ICS to hook up machines to UTVIp?

Do I need.

ADSL Modem
|
ADSL Router
|
Firewall
|
HUB
|
Machines?

Is that the right order?

You're making it way more complicated than you need.

Most "broadband routers" provide NAT capabilities, and various firewall functionality, along with at least a 4 port ethernet switch. So the 3 middle elements of your list are provided by a single device. And you can even eliminate the first item by getting a "DSL router", such as the DLink DSL-504 . This provides the modem, router, firewall and hub in a single device.

Note that because UTV only provide a USB modem, you'll have to provide a replacement ethernet modem anyway, to work with any firewall, so you might as well get the combined device (unless you think you might switch to wireless or cable in the foreseeable future - you can't use a "DSL router" with anything except DSL).

Is it possible to set user/password that way? Anyone done a setup like this?

Yes, and yes. Most of the routers support PPPoE, so you just provide your dsl username and password, and then you don't need any drivers on any of the workstations.

I currently have 5 machines running via ICS which is great (and amazing I am keeping well within my limit) however I don't like having the main machine on for long periods of time.

With 5 machines, you might need to plug your hub into one of the 4 ports, and stick two of your devices into the hub. This will work fine - most of the routers will happily spoort up to 256 devices.

machalla

You can pick up a DSL-504 from elara.ie for about 140 now. Its pretty reliable (mine is running about 3 months now non-stop pretty much).

http://www.elara.ie/result.asp?textfield=dsl-504&Submit=Submit&select6=ASC&select5=price

bk

Yes, just get rid of the crappy USB modem (well I'd hold onto it as a backup and in case you need to return it) and replace it with an ADSL router. So your network would look like:

Internet (RJ11 connector)
l
ADSL Router
| | | |
M1 M2 M3 M4

Where M1, etc. are your machines.

The only problem you will have is that you say you have 5 machines, but I have never seen an ADSL router with more then 4 10/100 ports, so you will need:

Internet (RJ11 connector)
l
ADSL Router
| | | |
M1 M2 M3 Hub/Switch
| |
M4 M5

Or some variant on that.

This is very easy to setup and maintain, way easier then ICS and should cost far less, Ripwave estimated that it would cost e165 per year in ESB bills to keep one PC on 24/7 for ICS, an ADSL router will cost a fraction of that.

I personally use a Draytek Vigor 2600 ADSL router, it is excellent.

- 4 10/100 port switch
- ADSL Modem
- Firewall
- DHCP
- VPN Server
- etc.

It is e211 on http://www.dsl-warehouse.ie/product.asp?pr=DRAY2600&pm=0

Well worth it, remember you will make the cost back on saved ESB bills over 2 years. There are cheaper ADSL routers with less features for about e150 on the same site, but I can't vouch for them, as I haven't used them.

BTW yes you would just enter your UTV settings in the ADSL router using a web browser and it takes care of all the dialing and networking etc.

Hobbes

Cheers guys!

Hobbes

I got the DSL-405 and it works perfectly!

However.. it only has 4 ports.

I tried to hook up my 16 port switch to it, but it does nothing? Do I have to set up a certain way to accept the switch?

machalla

DSL-504 I presume you mean? Are you sure your 16 port is a switch? If its a hub you may need to set an uplink. Sorry, pretty hazy on that aspect as I'm not a networking expert.

I have plugged several machines into a 5 port switch and then plugged one of the switch ports into the router with no problems. Should work away as long as the machines have ip addresses. DHCP is turned on on the 504 automatically I think. Can't check at the moment.

Can't think of anythign else off the top of my head.

santalives

are there any lan lights on your dlink if so check the status of it when you a) plug it into you computer and b) into your switch.

If it goes off for b it is probably that it is expecting a different sort of cable, so if you are using a straight though you would have to use a cross over cable. also if you have an uplink port on your switch plug it into that. Also verify that both devices are on the same ip range with the correct subnet

slowutv

just out of curiousity , have u done a speed test?? what speed to u get from the main machine??