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Most over rated film ever

  • 26-09-2003 8:20pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 32


    I honestly have no idea what people see in blade runner. I assumed it was good for the time but people who have seen it recently enjoyed it. I see it as a big disappointment.

    I used to think the same for space odyssey until i downloaded a movie that explained everything in that very confusing film so now I like it.

    Statistcally, the most over rated fiolm of all time is Citizen Kane which is mostly liked by just Americans.


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,004 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    'Citizen Kane' is more a critical choice than a popular choice. There's a simple enough reason too: Orson Welles used some extremely innovative directing techniques in it. Essentially he's credited with advancing the whole of cinema. If you have a look at the movie you'll notice certain types of shots (I think there's one where he focuses in, from afar, into a building) which might seem run-of-the-mill by today's standards but didn't exist before him. So that's why it's credited so much.

    Of the last few years, I'm going with "A Beautiful Mind" which was a stinking pile of ****.

    Over a longer period? The Godfather trilogy (the first two can be lumped as one movie anyway!) which were beautifully filmed, and acted, but bored the hell out of me.

    Oh and Blade Runner is excellent :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 GIME


    Oh and Blade Runner is excellent


    Im not saying it isnt. It is obvioulsy excellent since i am in the minority of disliking it. I just do not see what the big deal is. I saw it for the first time last month so maybe the last 13 years of admiration to this film enabled it to not live it to my high standards. It did seem quite anti-climatic among other things i did not like.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,004 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Like 'Citizen Kane' the look and style of 'Blade Runner' has been copied a thousand times since and spread into other areas such as computer games. Thus, seen now, maybe it doesn't seem as fresh and original as it once was... But I'm a sucker for wet, dripping, dark streets and delapidated buildings...(I'm looking at you 'Blade Runner' and you over there 'Se7en'!)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 726 ✭✭✭lamda


    I'd have to say Casablanca... cant muster up any affection for it at all. I can understand why people like it ...but, no.


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,352 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    What's this, a place where people come to slag off some of my favourite films? Blade Runner set the standard against which all science fiction films should be judged. It's stylish, moody, well plotted and if a tenth of the science fiction films that have come out in the intervening 21 years can age as well after that length of time they'll be doing well.

    As for Casablanca, what can I say? Humphrey Bogart (who is incidentally not one of my favourite actors) was born to play Rick. Ingrid Bergman has never looked better and Peter Lorre, Claude Rains, Paul Henreid and Sydney Greenstreet are as fine a supporting cast as you could ask for. I think part of its problem is that so many lines are so well known that people see it as a cinematic cliche. I certainly thought that until I actually sat down and watched the whole film and I'm glad I did.

    Just nobody start on "Some Like it Hot" or you'll really make me mad! :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,455 ✭✭✭weemcd


    Battle Royale id have to say


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,590 ✭✭✭lordsippa


    Braveheart.

    That is all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Ah this is so easy. The Matrix Reloaded - complete crap !!!!

    Gandalf.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭Caesar_Bojangle


    Never really liked blade runner at all - i read the book after the movie and must say the book is excellent.

    space odyssey - i remember watching it when i was 12 and thinking how crap it was, but i watched it again a few years ago and must say i quite like it now. Read the book as well, again the book is better than the film.

    Citizen Kane - I like it but must say it is rather overrated.
    All the guy really wanted was his sleigh


    Fight Club
    Lord of the rings
    Braveheart
    Shrek


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,488 ✭✭✭Goodshape


    I loved Citizen Kane, and (the directors cut of) Bladerunner. I wouldn't consider either of thouse films to be overrated.

    The Shawshank Redemption would get my vote. Good heart warming film and all, but not something I'd be botherd to watch ever again to be honest*

    Same goes for The Usual Suspects. I've seen it loads, but never really enjoyed it that much after the first time (chop off the last five minutes and you've got a pretty average film imho).


    * tb+h is censored?!.. lol :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,921 ✭✭✭✭Pigman II


    Casablanca / Cititzen Kane / Blade Runner / Shrek / Fight Club = Class.

    Battle Royale / Braveheart / Matrix Reloaded / Some Like It Hot / LOTR 1+2 = Agree! They are crap. Tho I don't think Matrix Reloaded actually counts for this because AFAIK nobodey else actually thinks it is good anyway?

    Another one I want to add is 'The African Queen'. It usually makes most Critics lists but it PAINFULLY hard to watch. I remember getting the tape of it and it took me about 2 weeks (in < 5 minutes chunks) to get through it. Swore to never watch it again.

    Another one is the Kurosawa movie 'Ran'. I love most of his stuff but this film is just TERRIBLE. Took me about THREE weeks to watch this one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    my over-rated films would have to be

    "The Shawshank Redemption" - nice, but why is it always in the top ten best films

    and


    "punch drunk love"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭Sev


    I'd disagree with you on that one now.. The Shawshank Redemption probably holds the top spot on my list.. underrated if you ask me.

    In terms of overrated... Star Wars, wtf?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭Kai


    Sorry lads the most overrated film ever made has to be:
    Titanic.


    Close the thread, its all over. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    The Blair Witch Project is easily the most over rated piece of pap ever released

    Titanic comes close. only got interesting after the boat hit the iceberg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,543 ✭✭✭sionnach


    hmm i think the shawshank redemption was definitely under rated, its a classic. Dunno bout most over rated of ALL TIME, but recently i know that spiderman was a massive letdown, loadsa hype for what was a very average, forgettable movie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭Slutmonkey57b


    Star Bores 1 - 6


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,608 ✭✭✭✭sceptre


    Originally posted by zaph
    Ingrid Bergman has never looked better
    Oh you lie. Watch her taking off her glasses in Spellbound.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 GIME


    Tho I don't think Matrix Reloaded actually counts for this because AFAIK nobodey else actually thinks it is good anyway?


    Pigman 2, statiscally, 80% of people think The Matrix Reloaded is brilliant according to most polls and 60% think it is better than the original and I personally think it is the best film ever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,503 ✭✭✭Makaveli


    Casablanca and Citizen Kane are overrated I think.
    Although I saw them in class, so they were split up into 40 minute showings.
    Casablance just dragged on though.

    Blade Runner, I didnt like. Seen it twice and it was ages ago, but it had no appeal. Over rated aswell.

    Gangs of New York is/was over rated. People were creaming them selves over it when it first came out. But it's crap. Really crap.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,488 ✭✭✭Goodshape


    Originally posted by sionnach
    recently i know that spiderman was a massive letdown, loadsa hype for what was a very average, forgettable movie.

    Well, I enjoyed Spiderman for what it was, but I don't think it's that highly rated. It had truck loads of pre-release hype - as did Matrix 2 et al - but that's not the same as critical or popular acclaim. It's just good marketing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Oh god how could I have forgotten about Star Wars crap crap crap :)

    Gandalf.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 990 ✭✭✭lili


    titanic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭The_Bullman


    2001: a space odyssey

    Long drawn out pile of drivel. Incredibly boring.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,597 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Titanic - Watch "A night to remember" which is factual, has good acting etc. etc.

    Blair Witch - hopefully this has killed the golder goose of hype. (before it was possible to hype a film into a hit - now...)

    The new star wars films - despite the acting etc in the first three they contained some nice scenes - eg: Dusk on tantoone, night landing of Vaders Shuttle

    I much prefer the Harrison Ford, Sam Spade style voice over to the directors cut. - and Some like hot still has wonderful timing and scripting ..

    And yes films do have to be seen in context - Battleship Potempkin, wouldn't seem strange but in it's day it was so revolutionary that people considered it THE film that elevated film making to anything other than a medium to regurgate stories.

    Other overatted - Shawshank / Crouching Tiger-dragon / seven almost every remake especially commidies / many of the Hitchcock films .

    And while you can argue about The Greatest Story Ever Told you have to agree with Barry Norman when he described The Never 's Ending Story as seeming to live up to it's title


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,958 ✭✭✭Chad ghostal


    titanic = heroicly crap..
    gladiator also feeding from the dung pile..(how the hell this makes it to the top ten of anyones list is beyond me)


    2001 and blade runner are both supoib films imo

    ..sound of music aswell.. i hate musicals...

    anything with john wayne..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,221 ✭✭✭RichyX


    Shawshank was ok but it'd take a fair prat to think that was the greatest film ever. All felt a bit obvious, didnt need any bloody voiceovers either.

    Bladerunner was great, pity there hasn't been a really class dvd release yet though.

    Battle Royale is definitly over rated. Killing and stuff is cool but I didn't give a crap about any of the characters so they all might as well of died.

    Can't think of anything I've seen that was incredibly over rated. Aside from maybe Charlie's Angels 2, that got excellent rating from what I saw and it was an almighty pile of arse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,890 ✭✭✭embee


    Originally posted by Slutmonkey57b
    Star Bores 1 - 6

    Amen to that.

    Titanic comes in a deserved second.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,183 ✭✭✭Quigs Snr


    I found A Clockwork Orange to be tiresome despite the hype.

    I agree with Gangs of New York also, I thought Daniel Day Lewis was pure pantomine and I still can't even remember what the so called story was.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,518 ✭✭✭Kalina


    I think Fargo was a hugely overrated movie, as was The Hours. Both were brutal in my opinion, though lads might enjoy all the lesbian stuff in The Hours. They both won Oscars, Kidman was fairly good though I don't think it was a performance worthy of a Oscar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,269 ✭✭✭p.pete


    The first Lotr and the second matrix. Is over-hyped the same as over-rated? if not then I may reconsider but wasn't too impressed by either and both had far too much building up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,221 ✭✭✭RichyX


    Almost forgot how crap LOTR was.
    Wasted so many hours of my life watching that boring fake midget filled ****e. Might of been an ok film if they were real midgets but...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 353 ✭✭IgnatiusJRiley


    Originally posted by lamda
    I'd have to say Casablanca... cant muster up any affection for it at all. I can understand why people like it ...but, no.

    I avoided watching Casablanca for years in the assumption that it had to be pants. I was wrong. It's brilliant.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,597 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Fargo - the line at the start of the film that says
    "this is based on a true story" is purely there for mood setting.
    That line like the rest of the film is Fiction.

    Nice gimick, but once you know that the film drops lots of places...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,005 ✭✭✭Creature


    Titanic, it was the biggest load of crap I've ever seen. It's basically just an outlet for DiCaprio and the other one to be on screen for a few hours showing off their aweful accents. The whole thing about it being set on a historic boat and the subsequent sinking of such boat had nothing to do with it at all. The film could've been set on the roof of a Hi-Ace in Ballymun and still had the same effect. Tripe. Total tripe.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭lodgepole


    Originally posted by Creature
    The film could've been set on the roof of a Hi-Ace in Ballymun

    I would go and see that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 314 ✭✭BANZAI_RUNNER


    Ok my choice for over rated movie has to be Terminator 3
    "I told you i'd be back".........................aaaaaaarrrrrrrgggggghhhhh


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