NTL rollout plan

eirebhoy · 17-09-2003 9:35pm #1

NTL is the only broadband service that I would be willing to pay for mainly beacuse of its uncapped and its so cheap.

I was just wondering when will it be available to Dublin 2? Preferabally 2003 but if no other uncappd cheap product comes out I will have to wait. Also, what is the next areas to be getting the service?

GerardKeating · 17-09-2003 10:55pm

Originally posted by eireboy
I was just wondering when will it be available to Dublin 2? Preferabally 2003 but if no other uncappd cheap product comes out I will have to wait. Also, what is the next areas to be getting the service?

Tallaght/Lucan is all that will happen on 2003.

CyberGhost · 18-09-2003 12:09pm

in Dublin 2? probably in 2026, they work very slow, 3 years ago i asked them, when they'll be available in Clondalkin, 2 months was the answer, they are still not available there, and Clondalkin in near Tallaght

ixoy · 18-09-2003 12:46pm

I rang them up a few months ago and asked when it'd be in Dublin 1. Within two years I was told they hoped to have all Dublin connected BUT - and she stressed this - she couldn't commit to even that...

MrPinK · 18-09-2003 12:58pm

Given that it took about 3 years just to move beyond Tallagh, I'm not really sure if it can actually be called a 'rollout'

damnyanks · 18-09-2003 1:06pm

Are they not bankrupt and basically screwed etc.

halenger · 18-09-2003 1:19pm

It may have taken them that long but they put down all the wiring and stuff in my area a few years ago-I'm on the northside.

They did a lot of the coolock/northside area. They said though that the Administrative bit had yet to be done...

I'd say they've a lot of the ground work done already.

It was blamed on ComReg back then iirc. They forced NTL to stop the rollout. Don't remember much about it though and I could be wrong but I remember it being ComReg.

cheradenine · 18-09-2003 4:33pm

I vaguely recall NTL being fairly buggered financially as well, I think this reticent rollout is because in order to get themselves the cable tv contract they agreed to provide broadband fairly widely as well, I think they managed to overstretch and are now in no hurry at all to unroll at any pace, they little they have done seems mainly to allow them to go through them motions.

Repli · 18-09-2003 4:34pm

Originally posted by cheradenine
I vaguely recall NTL being fairly buggered financially as well, I think this reticent rollout is because in order to get themselves the cable tv contract they agreed to provide broadband fairly widely as well, I think they managed to overstretch and are now in no hurry at all to unroll at any pace, they little they have done seems mainly to allow them to go through them motions.

Just look in todays independent:

NTL loss up at €28m despite stronger sales
CABLE firm NTL Ireland, which operates in Dublin, Galway and Waterford, has reported a pre-tax loss of €28m for the year ended 2002, a slight increase on the figure for the previous year of €24.2m.

carrotcake · 18-09-2003 4:52pm

i read a few months ago that ntl ireland is actually making a profit

STaN · 18-09-2003 7:23pm

Originally posted by carrotcake
i read a few months ago that ntl ireland is actually making a profit

look up

Tenshot · 18-09-2003 7:34pm

I suppose it all depends on how and when you calculate the figures. This article from last month indicates a segment profit of around $8M for the Irish operation for Q2 2003:

http://www.onbusiness.ie/2003/0812/ntl.html

(No, I don't know what a segment profit is either -- presumably it's the profit from running the service itself, without taking into account all their outstanding debts and non-cable overheads etc?)

preytec · 18-09-2003 9:31pm

why are they so slow? have they only one guy working for them or something?

CyberGhost · 18-09-2003 10:06pm

i think eireboy made a wrong name for this thread, he should have called it - NTL crawlout plan

dub45 · 19-09-2003 1:05am

I have commented on these boards before that NTL must be the most inefficient system in the entire universe and probably galaxy and whatever lies beyond. Even the simplest dealing with them appears to go wrong.

Some months ago they introduced two monthly billing 'due to public demand!!!!' thats what they claimed!!!

Two monthly billing of course represents a nice boost to their cash flow lots of administrative savings and lots of interest free money as we pay in advance for their service.

As I cant really imagine that thousands of people have so little on their iminds as to ring up NTL and 'demand' that they immediately introduce two monthly billing - not to menntion how long you have to stay on the phone normally to get through to their appalling call center I asked NTL to quantily the 'public demand' they had met.

Several months lster and despite several promises of a reply I am still waiting!!!!

I think they are lucky only to have lost 25m!

carrotcake · 19-09-2003 12:37pm

their cable internet support team is quality

lotas · 24-09-2003 8:26am

i have been with NTL for 2 years now in Tallaght and their connection is cool. BTW, they have upto D6w done. not sure how far in 6W, but its connected. D22, is done too. ring them. pretty damn class. BTW, they are making money too, or at least arnt bankrupt anymore. they restructured or something (debth for something or other, sounds like creative accounting to me!). anyway, they do have the best service around (600k/150k 24/7 no cap) but they dont have as many people in their catchment area. once question about DSL though. did eircom remove their cap? theres no mention of it on their site anymore.

Hugh_C · 24-09-2003 1:51pm

Originally posted by lotas
did eircom remove their cap? theres no mention of it on their site anymore.

I'm sure it's there somewhere in incredibly small writing...

hc

lotas · 24-09-2003 4:38pm

cant find it. weird. anyway...

bk · 24-09-2003 6:37pm

Found it, it is like trying to find where is wally.

I can't link to it because of the stupid session's on Eircom's website, but it is under:
Home : Our Products & Services : Broadband Services : What is broadband?

Basically it is in the Broadband FAQ linked on the right of the Broadband page.

Interestingly there is no mention of it in the Terms and Conditions linked from the Broadband page, a loop hole perhaps?

vishal · 25-09-2003 8:09am

anybody know what areas of d22?

lynchie · 25-09-2003 12:38pm

I enquired about this before but they told me that they dont have a list of which estates are upgraded. You have to supply them with an address and they will tell you if it is upgraded or not.

pete · 25-09-2003 3:06pm

Originally posted by lynchie
I enquired about this before but they told me that they dont have a list of which estates are upgraded. You have to supply them with an address and they will tell you if it is upgraded or not.

Sounds like a great business plan - their USP is the customer has to try guess where the service is available.

Fantastic.

NTL rollout plan

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