Ti's and HL2 ??

Col_Loki · 13-09-2003 2:27pm #1

Just wondering if the Ti graphics cards will be able to play HL2 , since theres no Dx9 support ?? Or will it just not perform aswell?

Creamy Goodness · 13-09-2003 2:31pm

it will play it no bother it just won't look as good

sure gabe newell(one of the founders on Valve) said you can play hl2 with a TNT2 so i think a geforce 4 ti should do trick

i have a 4200 myself and i'm skint that i can't buy a new card

Col_Loki · 13-09-2003 3:40pm

Ahh thats good to hear

, my mind is at ease now !! Was thinking as much as it would be madness to limit the ammount of customers by requiring Dx9 support as standard.

Will prob overclock like crazy and she should perform well enough for me

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Cheers,

Loki

Creamy Goodness · 13-09-2003 3:46pm

well it will be playable and thats good enough for me atm

CivilServant · 13-09-2003 3:53pm

Check out the stats on anandtech's HL2 performance and you'll see the Ti4600 rears it's head. With very acceptable frame rates and directx 8 shaders so it'll still look very good, but not dx9 good obviously.

Creamy Goodness · 13-09-2003 4:06pm

sry but i can't see my card there at all at anandtech.com

geforce 4 ti4200 128mb

could u post up an exact link

Col_Loki · 13-09-2003 4:14pm

Im going to be overclocking my Ti4200 128mb to around the Ti4600 level (with watercooling) so thats really goo do know

. Do you have a link to that site ??

Blank · 13-09-2003 4:18pm

they used the ti 4600 in the benchmark and it was to show thats it runs hl2 better (in dx 8) then the latest line of nvidia cards. Apparantly nvidia current driver sets are useless in rendering with dx9 in the Source engine and to be even playable valve had to write a code path that allows geforces to revert back to dx8.

Heres the benchmark url
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1863

Creamy Goodness · 13-09-2003 4:20pm

i've directX 9.0b on my pc atm so will that mean i'll get **** Fps than if i have directX 8.0 on?

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Caffine · 13-09-2003 4:21pm

http://www.gamersdepot.com/hardware/video_cards/ati_vs_nvidia/dx9_desktop/HL2_benchmarks/002.htm

that link among shows nvidias dx9 performace vs there dx8 hardwear performance (bottom of page).

http://www.gamersdepot.com/hardware/video_cards/ati_vs_nvidia/dx9_desktop/hl2_followup/002.htm

that one shows nvidia vs ati (ti 4600 is the onyl TI on this list but shows playable rates)

and finally

http://www.gamersdepot.com/hardware/video_cards/ati_vs_nvidia/dx9_desktop/hl2_followup/shotdx.htm

shows the difference in visuals between dx8, dx8.1 and dx9

Creamy Goodness · 13-09-2003 4:25pm

well anyway i'm saving up for this here

Caffine · 13-09-2003 4:29pm

Originally posted by Blank
Apparantly nvidia current driver sets are useless in rendering with dx9 in the Source engine and to be even playable valve had to write a code path that allows geforces to revert back to dx8.

nvidia optimised there boards for a tweaked version of dx9, they didnt stick with the original things they were told, because of this vavle would have to spend extra time makeing hl2 work better on nvidia dx9 boards, ati stuck with the normal dx9 so it works a lot easier

nvidia will release a new driver soon but i doubt it will make up that ammount of fps, in one of the gamersdepot benchmarks ati finisiehd 5mins ahead of the nvidia machine, and the nvidia one had a started few minutes before the ati one

Originally posted by Cr3m0
i've directX 9.0b on my pc atm so will that mean i'll get **** Fps than if i have directX 8.0 on?

im not really sure, i have a ti4800, and im running dx9.0b atm, iv also orderd a new comp which is coming with a fs 5200 (my cards better but its got dx9 support) so im gonna run some tests in dx8 dx8.1 and dx9 in both cards and see what happens

CivilServant · 13-09-2003 4:56pm

Here's a nice single page version of anandtech HL2 preview and benchies ti4600 results on pages 8-10

Sir Random · 13-09-2003 5:03pm

Originally posted by Cr3m0
i've directX 9.0b on my pc atm so will that mean i'll get **** Fps than if i have directX 8.0 on?

No, the game will run in DX8 mode to suit your card. The DX9.0b drivers include complete instructions for DX8,7,6 etc...

Caffine · 13-09-2003 5:39pm

oh yeah i had forgotten valve have done that, make things a bit simpler

Creamy Goodness · 13-09-2003 11:00pm

what will be a playable frame rate i havn't a clue cos atm i only play CS and i get a 100fps in that so i don't know what other games are like

basically what is the lowest playable framerate

Sir Random · 14-09-2003 12:21am

A constant 30+fps should be fine. You should really only notice jerkiness below 20fps.

Giblet · 14-09-2003 1:09pm

If you can keep the framerate capped at 30fps without it dropping below, it will look fine at 60hz, 90hz and 120hz.

Ti's and HL2 ??

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