Panther MacOSX 10.3

Kenz

Has anyone else seen Panther Mac OS 10.3 yet?

I got a Dev copy a month ago, and I sad to say I don't like it. Ya Ya, I knows it a Dev copy and it'll probably be alot different when it's finish in the autumn/winter. It just feels very clumsy compared to Jaguar 10.2. The new finder don't fell right. I do like Expose and a few other bits, but 10.2 is still better.

Just my opinion...

Hugh_C

What build is it Kenz?

Current build is 7B59 as of 6th Sept, with builds coming with increasing frequency as GM approaches.

shabbyroad, are you listening?

hc

Kenz

7A179.... Much difference in the later 7B59 builds?

Have you heard solid ship date for Panther? I haven't talked to Apple (US) for a few weeks so I don't know.

Hugh_C

Dunno Kenz, I haven't seen Panther at all except for some screen shots. But judging from the build numbers, there's probably been many changes since the release you're looking at. There's a lot of discussion over on usenet in uk.comp.sys.mac & comp.sys.mac about how sweet & snappy it is...

Time will tell.

As regards the release date, nobody but Apple knows... but it would seem that expo Paris on Sept 16th would be a good bet.

hc

Yoda

HughChal, I hope you're not under NDA talking about current builds on public fora.

I am under NDA and to Kanz's first question I can answer only "Yes".

flywheel

or Kanz could keep an eye on the many Mac news site out reporting on builds etc... such as:
http://www.thinksecret.com/

atb,
BrianG

Hugh_C

Originally posted by Yoda
HughChal, I hope you're not under NDA talking about current builds on public fora.

I am under NDA and to Kanz's first question I can answer only "Yes".

pure speculation

Yoda

Fair enough. I'm on the Customer Seed and there's often talk about security there.

Kenz

Good point Yoda.... Never thouht of that.
Wouldn't want to get anyone in trouble !!!!

....anywho

ssh

Re the finder...

I'm new to MacOS, only got my first mac last month, and by far and away the worst part of it is the finder. I'm mostly a keyboard person, and it makes very little sense to me. I hit v to go to all items beginning with v. Then I hit it again, and the order of items is completely reversed. I hit return to open something, and I end up renaming it (I know, it's apple + O, but I don't consider that logical, I open documents far more than I rename them). For all of its crudiness, I feel that Windows Explorer remains the best file manager around.

For that reason, I'm quite looking forward to Panther in that respect, it looks like the finder has been changed quite a bit.

Bar the finder, I quite like it.

Hugh_C

Originally posted by ssh
Re the finder...

I'm new to MacOS, only got my first mac last month, and by far and away the worst part of it is the finder.

I find myself using 'column view' a lot, which is a little more Windows Explorery. Have you tried column view?

hc

ssh

It does make it a bit better alright.

Still isn't too snappy, but sure, hopefully panther will improve that a bit further.

Dustaz

Originally posted by Yoda
HughChal, I hope you're not under NDA talking about current builds on public fora.

I am under NDA and to Kanz's first question I can answer only "Yes".

There was nothing in his post that either suggested he had seen an NDA covered build or contravened any sensible NDA.

One can only assume you just needed to get your spoke in and declare that you are in on the beta - I hope thats not a contravention of the nda

Yoda

Hardly, Dustaz. On the Customer Seed there has been concern about leaks, and about Apple's good will making Customer Seeds available. Yes, I'm seeded. No, I didn't need to crow about it. (I'll crow when Panther is released, perhaps.) Actually it's not much a surprise that a Unicode um geek like myself is seeded, now is it?