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Extension leads - Will it slow DSL?

  • 28-08-2003 8:57am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 467 ✭✭


    Good morning everyone.

    I will be moving into a new rented house next week in Blackrock. The house is a year old and everything is hunky dory.

    Now, I luckily have the phone number of the old house and have checked it out with broadband suppliers. It passes. So of course I will go with netsource..ordered today.

    Now..here is my worry. The phone wall plug is downstairs right beside the front door. I will want to have DSL set up in a room either up stairs or downstairs, which means I will need at least a 30 foot extension lead/phone cord or two cords attached together.(see below). Now as much as I want to do wireless I won't be able to attach a dish to this rented house.

    At the moment there is one phone at the front door and a second phone at the top of the stairs connected to a long lead back down to the phone wall box. Both phones are connected to a double phone jack, which is connected to the original phone wall plug.

    If I unhook the existing second phone at the top of the stairs can I attach an extra phone jack to the existing lead then add another lead to this jack, extending the second lead into a room of my choice and then attaching this to the modem?

    Or should I just go with one big lead running under the carpet into a room? This line will not be used for phone calls at all, just pure internet.

    If I do this will this slow down my connection speed because the lenght of the lead is so long? I have seen it work with an ordinary 56k modem and the lead was 35ft long and the speed held at 48k.(typical for a 56k modema year ago)

    Also the phone wall plug is just an ordinary phone wall plug like in any house. Does this have to be different in order to have DSL?

    I have seen the wall plug in my place of Work and it looks bigger, bulkier so I am worried the phone wall plug won't be up to scratch.

    I have an Xbox. Will I need a router or just an ordinary modem. I'm a bit confused about the whole router thing and I will want my Xbox Live when it comes to Ireland.

    Sorry for the long winded story, I just want to get this right.

    Suggestions welcome.

    Thank you for your time.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭-Wheeler-


    Basically, the more times you split the original line - the more you reduce quality of the signal and/or introduce additional noise on the line - so if you want to get the most out of the internet with DSL you should try to connect the DSL filter directly to the connection point where the line enters the house, and try to reduce the number of splits on the line.

    Wheeler_1028.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 467 ✭✭Jokah


    Ok so one big lead will do the trick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭-Wheeler-


    Yeah - one big lead should be fine. However, the longer the extension lead, the more the signal can be weakened. In saying that, I use an extension lead with no ill-effects - modem still connects at 512kbps and d/l speeds of 55KB/sec.

    Wheeler_1028


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 467 ✭✭Jokah


    Thanks wheeler thats really good to know.

    And the original wall socket? does it matter what type it is?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭-Wheeler-


    No it shouldn't matter - as long as the line (the copper) is in good nick, you'll have no problems.

    Best of luck with it.

    Wheeler_1028.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 467 ✭✭Jokah


    Can't wait.....can't wait.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 467 ✭✭Jokah


    what exchange you on Wheeler?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 507 ✭✭✭uzami


    1. you don't need a dish to go wireless.
    2. the line splitter you already have will probably be ok for dsl.
    3. you're probably better off buying a router if you're using xbox live



    my suggested config would be put a wireless router where the phone line enters the house probably downstairs.

    either wirelessly or hard wire (cat 5) connect the xbox and pc to the router.

    leave alone.

    if you don't have a router you will need to be connecting the xbox directly to the pc and using internet connection sharing so the xbox can go on live (which will be a pain if the pc is upstairs and xbox downstairs), which will also mean that you are using a usb dsl modem (unless you have two ethernet ports on the pc). The usb dsl modems don't seem to be held in very high regard at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭-Wheeler-


    Dundrum, D14 with eircom i-stream.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 467 ✭✭Jokah


    "1. you don't need a dish to go wireless."

    Oh, I thought one did need a dish? Ripwave is not available in my area.








    Thanks Wheeler for getting back to me also.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 507 ✭✭✭uzami


    ....sorry i meant wireless internal (802.11) not external, eg irish broadband and all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 465 ✭✭B0rG


    From my experience there is 1 sec lag on in-house wireless network. I'm afraid that might affect your gaming.
    IMO better to stick with High quality cat5 patch cables from the router to the modem upstairs. Those might have less noise and signal loss.

    Another option is to try HQ phone cable. Guys in Nets/Comms might help you with that.

    BTW is there such a thing as WiFi card for XBox?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 467 ✭✭Jokah


    Well I'm meeting my landlord next week. If eircom come back to me and say my area is not DSL enabled then I'm going to have to ask him for permission to put a dish up. Might be good to get wireless in the house. Saves on all the cables.


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