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US , Electrical Grid in NE gone down

  • 14-08-2003 8:59pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,143 ✭✭✭


    NY Boston Detroit Toronto all out.

    M


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,081 ✭✭✭BKtje


    any idea why?

    that would feel mighty weird


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    And more Muck.

    They're claiming a cascade failure due to the antiquated nature of the system. According to Sky news, one transformer overloaded in NYC, then as the system attempted to compensate, ie reroute power through other transformers, those transformers blew, and so on, cascading through the system.

    Anyone know their stuff about electricity? It sounds possible, but not very likely IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,618 ✭✭✭milltown


    WooHoo!
    Let the looting begin.

    Have to have a look at Sky News now I suppose.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,502 ✭✭✭MrPinK


    Details are a little scetchy so far. Seemingly, a New York power plant was shut down, and it somehow caused cascading shutdowns to other stations that were connected to it.

    Could these power plants have been using XP without the RPC patch? Maybe :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,143 ✭✭✭spongebob


    Cascade failures took NY out in the 1960's and 1970's, no surprise to me that they ****ed up again.

    M


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,441 ✭✭✭✭jesus_thats_gre


    I would be inclined to think they were using NT at the most.. So they could still be affected?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,564 ✭✭✭Typedef


    Yeah, it's a DCOM sploit AFAIK, consistent through versions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,143 ✭✭✭spongebob


    They admitted it was a group protection fault, Windows 3.1 , awwwwwww.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,718 ✭✭✭Matt Simis


    Originally posted by Muck
    Cascade* failures took NY out in the 1960's and 1970's, no surprise to me that they ****ed up again.

    M
    *But we call it a "domino" effect - Sky News :rolleyes:

    I guess Sky think "cascade" is too complicated a term for their audience.



    Matt


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭charlie_says


    /rant
    Its interesting that over in the States if the power goes out (OK so it did affect a shed load of peeps) for a few hours its major news.

    Here in sunny Galway we have had at least 4 blackouts here over the last year and half some of them lasting up to 12 hours, yet no one seems to complain....except for this little ripple
    /rant


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,225 ✭✭✭JackKelly


    "Here in sunny Galway we have had at least 4 blackouts here over the last year and half some of them lasting up to 12 hours, yet no one seems to complain....except for this little ripple"

    Well this one in america would be more like a blackout all across ireland

    Thats like when someone in my year said (about september 11):

    "I don't know what ever one is crying about, its just like having a car bomb in louth"

    i was like, you f*cking idiot, its like a car bomb the size of louth


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭charlie_says


    No doubt there will be a massive enquiry in the States over the power loss and heads will roll, but my point was that when the same thing happens here we all just accept it again and again.
    You might if you are lucky get a 9 second story on it on RTE news, claiming "engineers are working on the problem" and that’s about as good as it gets....

    At least I have never heard of a "cascading failure" in the ESB system. It sounds rather like the sort of thing someone would say in a bad action movie followed by oh my god get me a cup of coffee
    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,149 ✭✭✭✭Lemming


    Yup - was it not Bell who lost their entire telephone network in a similar style in the 1970s ?

    They had lots of 'cells' and one went which started a cascade.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,143 ✭✭✭spongebob


    Originally posted by charlie_says
    /rant Here in sunny Galway we have had at least 4 blackouts here over the last year and half some of them lasting up to 12 hours, yet no one seems to complain....except for this little ripple
    /rant

    That was only in the city dude so its not that big a deal.

    M


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,956 ✭✭✭✭Villain


    Originally posted by milltown
    WooHoo!
    Let the looting begin.

    Only 4 burglaries all night in New York

    If that was Galway, there be nothing left !! lol
    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭charlie_says


    Yes all Buckfast would be the first to go! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 151 ✭✭Ro


    This didn't take long!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,718 ✭✭✭whosurpaddy


    Originally posted by charlie_says

    You might if you are lucky get a 9 second story on it on RTE news, claiming "engineers are working on the problem" and that’s about as good as it gets....


    well it wont matter cause no one will see it...................cause we wont have any power :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,738 ✭✭✭Barry Aldwell


    Originally posted by Matt Simis
    *But we call it a "domino" effect - Sky News :rolleyes:

    I guess Sky think "cascade" is too complicated a term for their audience.
    What's this about pizzas? :D


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