The Price of Milk

cravian

I don't know about the rest of you, but I get through a few litres of milk a week and decided to have a look at what it's costing. I was a bit miffed to find out the big difference in price.

I shop at a local SuperQuinn, and...

Avonmore low fat 2lt is EUR 1.60
Meadow Lane low fat 2lt is only EUR 1.24

To add insult to injury they have gallons of the Avonmore and only take a small delivery of the Meadow Lane once every day or so, so it's usually sold out by around 11am.

Choose your milk!

SteM

1 litre Avonmore = €1.05 in the Spar around the corner.
2 litres own brand = €1.14 in the Tesco on the way home.

Guess which one I go for?

IIRC Tesco's own brand comes from the same suppliers as Avonmore's I think!

ciano

Originally posted by SteM
1 litre Avonmore = €1.05 in the Spar around the corner.
2 litres own brand = €1.14 in the Tesco on the way home.

Spar has always been a complete rip off in my opinion. I never buy anything there if, I can help it.

hussey

1 Litre of Stratroy Milk in spar 1.02
2 Litre of Stratroy Milk in Iceland 1.06

OmegaGene

75 cent a litre in SuperValu Lidl aldi and dunnes, milk is cheap

OmegaGene

Btw this is bargain alerts, there is a request forum somewhere

Pique

OmegaGene wrote:

, milk is cheap

Thanks to retailers screwing dairy farmers.

slave1

Don't feed the troll...

rubadub

I had a local green grocer who did milk cheaper than tesco, I have seen another small shop who did the same.

Pique wrote: »

Thanks to retailers screwing dairy farmers.

This always comes up in any thread on milk. I wonder why the same is not said in the booze threads. I was able to get guinness for 16euro a tray, are the grain farmers being screwed by tesco? and if not why are they not trying to screw them in a similar way?

In threads on cheap chicken it is usually somebody banging on about free range etc, but do they not try and screw the farmers to the same degree as with milk? I have seen the odd comment but nowhere near the same level as these dairy farmers.

roosterman71

rubadub wrote: »

This always comes up in any thread on milk. I wonder why the same is not said in the booze threads. I was able to get guinness for 16euro a tray, are the grain farmers being screwed by tesco? and if not why are they not trying to screw them in a similar way?

Guinness, or more specifically Boortmalt are trying it on with the grain for the beer industry.

I prefer the avanmore low fat super milk to other milk so I buy it even though it’s more expensive. It’s also got lots of added vitimans and comes in a carton not plastic like most brands and milk is much nicer from a carton than plastic.

deep1

OmegaGene wrote: »

75 cent a litre in SuperValu Lidl aldi and dunnes, milk is cheap

Replying to 16 year old thread?

fritzelly

deep1 wrote: »

Replying to 16 year old thread?

Was thinking thats damn cheap for milk

OmegaGene

deep1 wrote: »

Replying to 16 year old thread?

It was in page 1 of bargain alerts earlier unless someone replied and deleted a comment to get it up into bargain alerts first page like the Easter eggs post

Thread reported so should be closed soon

The_Conductor

rubadub wrote: »

This always comes up in any thread on milk. I wonder why the same is not said in the booze threads. I was able to get guinness for 16euro a tray, are the grain farmers being screwed by tesco? and if not why are they not trying to screw them in a similar way?

In threads on cheap chicken it is usually somebody banging on about free range etc, but do they not try and screw the farmers to the same degree as with milk? I have seen the odd comment but nowhere near the same level as these dairy farmers.

Dairy and beef farmers, however, continue to produce even when they are paid significantly below production costs (as they cross-subsidise their loss making dairy or beef activities with SFP and other income). The exact same thing happens when supermarkets flog vegetables at 29c/39c a bag- its a loss for the producer. Supermarkets have farmers by the gonads, and they know it. It really is a race to the bottom..........

MrMusician18

fritzelly wrote: »

Was thinking thats damn cheap for milk

Tesco whole milk is €1.49 for 2l or 75c/l today (Feb 2019).16 years and no change in the price of milk really is incredible.

If it kept track with typical inflation it ought to be somewhere between 25-50% more expensive

rubadub

MrMusician18 wrote: »

Tesco whole milk is €1.49 for 2l or 75c/l today (Feb 2019).16 years and no change in the price of milk really is incredible.

If it kept track with typical inflation it ought to be somewhere between 25-50% more expensive

no change?

SteM wrote: »

2 litres own brand = €1.14 in the Tesco on the way home.

it has gone up 30.7%

ted1

SteM wrote: »

1 litre Avonmore = €1.05 in the Spar around the corner.
2 litres own brand = €1.14 in the Tesco on the way home.

Guess which one I go for?

IIRC Tesco's own brand comes from the same suppliers as Avonmore's I think!

Is the own brand Irish milk , do it have the national dairy council logo?

roosterman71

How has the price at the farm gate changed I wonder in the same timeframe

Edit: Found a link on CSO
https://www.cso.ie/px/pxeirestat/statire/Graphics/MakeGraph.asp?menu=y&pxfile=20192189324411299552AJM07.px&gr_type=1&PLanguage=0

Water John

The base price for milk is 32c/litre. Add on 7/8c for liquid milk all year round production.
The solids esp fat would be higher from the cow, and the farmer paid for that but that extra solids don't make it to the retailer in the shop.

dashcamdanny

A dairy farmer in Maynooth told me Premier milk and Avonmore are the exact same stuff coming from the same place.

Premier 1.05

Avonmore 1.24


People like to pay extra for better advertising it seems.

murphyebass

Why would anyone buy anything other than store brand?

Avanmore costs a fortune.

Aldi/Lidl/Tesco are all perfectly fine.

Would love people to do a blind taste test.

MrMusician18

dashcamdanny wrote: »

A dairy farmer in Maynooth told me Premier milk and Avonmore are the exact same stuff coming from the same place.

Premier 1.05

Avonmore 1.24


People like to pay extra for better advertising it seems.

You don't even need to believe the farmer. Dairy and meat products have an oval symbol with a country code and number indicating the country and dairy/ meat processing plant where the product came from.

Although I've never checked for premier/avonmore many ownbrand and branded milks come from the same dairies.

fritzelly

I find the premium brands a bit more creamier tasting, but prefer the cheaper stuff

Water John

They have the same fat content and are all homogenised, no diff.

murphyebass

murphyebass wrote: »

Why would anyone buy anything other than store brand?

Avanmore costs a fortune.

Aldi/Lidl/Tesco are all perfectly fine.

Would love people to do a blind taste test.

For the reasons I gave, avanmore is a carton (milk tastes crap form plastic + carton is also more recyclable) and it has a lot of added Vitimans. It also lasts far longer I found than own brands, it’s still not turned even the day after it’s use by date whereas many milks barely make their use by date.

Water John

M/s Talbot will be delighted with you. Glad you'll pay for her multi million euro salary.

OmegaGene

Daleyza Square Goalkeeper wrote: »

For the reasons I gave, avanmore is a carton (milk tastes crap form plastic + carton is also more recyclable) and it has a lot of added Vitimans. It also lasts far longer I found than own brands, it’s still not turned even the day after it’s use by date whereas many milks barely make their use by date.

SuperValu Lidl and aldi all have cartons for 75cent
Avonmore can feck off it all comes from the same tit

murphyebass

Daleyza Square Goalkeeper wrote: »

For the reasons I gave, avanmore is a carton (milk tastes crap form plastic + carton is also more recyclable) and it has a lot of added Vitimans. It also lasts far longer I found than own brands, it’s still not turned even the day after it’s use by date whereas many milks barely make their use by date.

Eh own brands do cartons too ya know.

MrMusician18

Daleyza Square Goalkeeper wrote: »

For the reasons I gave, avanmore is a carton (milk tastes crap form plastic + carton is also more recyclable) and it has a lot of added Vitimans. It also lasts far longer I found than own brands, it’s still not turned even the day after it’s use by date whereas many milks barely make their use by date.

Milk cartons are lined with plastic and are not straightforward to recycle. Some people say that plastic jugs impart a plastic taste to milk but what they're actually tasting is the milk turning. Milk does tend to turn faster in plastic jugs as milk is light sensitive, which a paper carton does a better job of shielding.


If you pick your plastic jug from the back of the fridge in the shop and your fridge is cold enough, it won't turn any faster nor taste any different to it's paper relative. Depending on household demand I buy milk in both paper and plastic as needed.

murpho999

Daleyza Square Goalkeeper wrote: »

For the reasons I gave, avanmore is a carton (milk tastes crap form plastic + carton is also more recyclable) and it has a lot of added Vitimans. It also lasts far longer I found than own brands, it’s still not turned even the day after it’s use by date whereas many milks barely make their use by date.

Tried own brand stuff and Avonmore and can never tell the difference. So I always buy own brand as it's so much cheaper.

Strong believe the 'extra vitamins" are just marketing rubbish. Why do you need the extra vitamins?

As for turning, you don't wonder why Avonmore's last longer? Maybe it's the extra vitamins they put in?

As already stated own brands do cartons as well and are not as recyclable as you make out.

I think we should go back to the re-usable milk bottle.

TallGlass

Lidl have 3lt for 2€ I think.

I'd say some of this stuff is fairly watered down too?

vandriver

TallGlass wrote: »

Lidl have 3lt for 2€ I think.

I'd say some of this stuff is fairly watered down too?

You'd say that based on what?

TallGlass

vandriver wrote: »

You'd say that based on what?

Do you know what a question mark means then or do you want that explained to you?

_Brian

rubadub wrote: »

I had a local green grocer who did milk cheaper than tesco, I have seen another small shop who did the same.


This always comes up in any thread on milk. I wonder why the same is not said in the booze threads. I was able to get guinness for 16euro a tray, are the grain farmers being screwed by tesco? and if not why are they not trying to screw them in a similar way?

In threads on cheap chicken it is usually somebody banging on about free range etc, but do they not try and screw the farmers to the same degree as with milk? I have seen the odd comment but nowhere near the same level as these dairy farmers.

Yea.
Farmers are price takers so as retailers have been gaining more control over the food chain they are reducing payment to farmers.

Imagine rearing a beef animal for 30 months to have the price slashed at the last week.

Investing €200k in dairy facilities to have milk price slashed to at or below cost of production.

Plant 10acres of a vegetable to be told to plough it down as they’ve secured cheaper veg abroad.

You see constant retorts of “look at the €80k tractor”, it’s a bit like saying a factory worker is rich because he operates a €100k piece of machinery in a factory. 30 years ago labour was cheap and plentiful on farms, now one man operates 5 times the land and animal numbers, enabled to do so by machinery leased same as a factory leases machinery.

“Sell upmif ots not profitable” is another common idea. It’s happening but farmers are caught in many cases, Imagine inheriting a farm maybe run by many generations, the current farmer never wants to be the one to fail and sell it out.

Milk or beef is not cheap, but the profit shared within the supply chain is desperately skewed.

vandriver

TallGlass wrote: »

Do you know what a question mark means then or do you want that explained to you?

So just bs speculation

Oasis1974

Any truth in what the farmers are doing with the milk before it goes to the mart? Gobbing into it and placing cattle excrement into it according to reports?

Water John

The standards on milk are extremely high. What solids it say on the pack is what you get.
I presume Oasis is just taking the piss.

Atlas_IRL

Milk is all made in the same factories the own brand is the same stuff mostly.

I have a friend who sells machine parts and is in the factories.

TallGlass

vandriver wrote: »

So just bs speculation

What is speculation. What are you even talking about?

How the hell can you speculate from asking a question.

What are you even asking me? You want me to answer my own question. Bizzare.

Water John

Processed in the factory, the cow makes it!!!

whelan2

Oasis1974 wrote: »

Any truth in what the farmers are doing with the milk before it goes to the mart? Gobbing into it and placing cattle excrement into it according to reports?

What mart does milk go to?

Odelay

Oasis1974 wrote: »

Any truth in what the farmers are doing with the milk before it goes to the mart? Gobbing into it and placing cattle excrement into it according to reports?

Sigh.. milk going to the mart, shows the level of ignorance there is.

whelan2

Oasis1974 wrote: »

Any truth in what the farmers are doing with the milk before it goes to the mart? Gobbing into it and placing cattle excrement into it according to reports?

Every collection of milk is tested. We have very high standards. So no there is no truth in your remark. BTW milk goes to a cremery to be processed not a mart