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ATTENTION : Irish subscribers not getting E4+1

  • 14-07-2003 11:04am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 510 ✭✭✭


    Yes, funny isnt it?,
    i knew there was going to be some issues with putting E4+1 on our subscription seeing as it has english ads.

    Did they go to the bother of setting up an Irish version of the channel over the weekend, short answer NO.

    On my UK ftv card this channel is on 206, on my irish sub its not.
    Again, we are short changed.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    Time to complain again! Channel 4 really are a bunch of money grabbing twats who couldn't care less about Irish Sky subscribers.

    I urge everybody to call and complain to C4!!

    Call them 00 44 20 7306 8333 or use the form online at here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,011 ✭✭✭carrolls


    Last year, when they blocked Irish viewing of E4 Interactive during BB3, I simply called Sky up and requested that I cancel my subscription of Film-4. The answer as always is to hit them where it hurts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭ShaneOC


    Filled out the form with the following
    Last year channel 4 created an Irish version of E4 with different ads for the Irish market. This undoubtedly has lead to some advertising revenue for you from the republic, however as a result the Irish viewer has suffered. Interactive E4 which was previously available for shows like Bansai and Big Brother are no longer available. I understand the technical reasons (different transponders, satellites) for not providing these services but I feel a bit more effort could be put into ensuring that we get the same levels of service that the UK get. It is very frustrating to see adverts for interactive Big Brother 24 hours a day when we cannot access it.

    Now I see that E4 +1 which was also advertised on Irish E4 is not yet (if ever) available to us in Ireland.

    We wont even begin to talk about the abscence of Channel 4 itself!

    I feel another Campaign coming on. Where's Charles? :D Now that I have finally gotten the Sky+ activated I want all of the channels on the recordable EPG.

    Channel 4 are saying that it could take up to six weeks before they get around to answering each email.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    I've emailed them as well - and Sky too just for the sake of it.

    Sky give us Sky One Mix with UK adverts - so why can't E4 just give us E4+1 as it is now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭Richard


    Originally posted by jdempsey
    I've emailed them as well - and Sky too just for the sake of it.

    Sky give us Sky One Mix with UK adverts - so why can't E4 just give us E4+1 as it is now?

    Because Sky One Mix is a different Channel to Sky One, not a time-shift.

    Irish Advertisers on E4 would be annoyed if some E4 viewers (i.e. those watching on E4 +1) weren't able to see their ads.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭ShaneOC


    Originally posted by Richard
    Irish Advertisers on E4 would be annoyed if some E4 viewers (i.e. those watching on E4 +1) weren't able to see their ads.

    True, but the viewers should not be deprived of the service for that reason. The ideal solution is that there is an Irish version of E4 +1. There should also be an irish version of the interactive services.

    This would keep both the viewers and the advertisers happy. It would obviously cost Channel 4 to set up this however they are making money from Irish advertisers and from Irish viewers who subscribe to their channels.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭dmeehan


    is it available via "Other Channels"?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭ShaneOC


    Have just heard that E4 +1 is on here now. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭dmeehan


    DOH!
    i've just sent them an email complaining about it

    egg on my face:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    Doesn't matter if we complained too early - at least they know us Irish are a vocal bunch!

    I complained about the lack of BB Interactive as well anyways while I was at it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭ShaneOC


    You saw my email :rolleyes:

    If we keep this thread going for 30 pages then we might get what we want. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,463 ✭✭✭shinzon


    epg or other channels

    regards

    shin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭ShaneOC


    Available on 206. Don't know if the adverts as I have not seen it myself and it would be too complicated to explain it to the person who told me it was on. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 538 ✭✭✭muffinhead


    yeah, it on 206 on my EPG!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,463 ✭✭✭shinzon


    shes there on 206, dont know about the ads, big brother was on when i was watching it


    regards

    shin


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 510 ✭✭✭TVDX


    Yes, funny, early this morning there was NO E4+1.
    And it certainly was on my Uk card. Then all of a sudden it appears.

    I emailed them straight away, and im sure they got a flood of other emails and calls from some of the people on here.

    It isnt wasted energy because i am sure alot of others brought up the issue of BB interactive as did i, so they know we are not happy with them. Whoever suggested a campaign i think its a good idea.

    When you look at it, E4 Eire(as they call it) is on Eurobird, but its no longer alone, E4+1 with UK adverts is now on there with it.
    Will this help them get their finger out and either create an Interactive transponder for Eurobird?, or will they move E4 Eire to the main C4 transponder, the fact there is movement there mean it can now be done very easily.

    Can you imagine the scene this morning though at E4 towers?.

    E4 Engineer 1 "Right, well switch on E4+1 now"

    E4 Engineer 2 "Ok lets go for it, damn it, i just remembered, we havent created a version with Irish ads"

    E4 Engineer 1 "Oh they can do without it"

    Later that day

    E4 Engineer 2 "Just switch it on, were getting loads of emails"


    BTW, just to confirm it does have English ads, ooh the Irish advertisers arent going to be happy, im losing them revenue by watching E4+1.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,463 ✭✭✭shinzon


    A campaign would at least get peoples attention and show them how unhappy we are that we have no interactive content on E4 et al, plus it would show how many lives at e4 towers we can make very miserable if we put our minds to it lol.

    The campaign to get free to air BBC on Sky in ireland seemed to work pretty damn well, we need someone like charles on board o start this off

    I WANT BIG BROTHER INTERACTIVE AND I WANT IT NOW

    Regards

    Shin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭Charles Slane


    Woah !! Got a fright when I saw this thread - I would have been seriously annoyed if we hadn't gotten E4+1.

    The issue about BB Interactive is interesting. The reason we can't get it is because the UK and Irish versions of E4 are on different transponders - for a channel to access interactive features it has to be on the same transponder that the features are being transmitted from.

    The interesting thing is that E4 Ireland is on the same transponder as the new E4+1 (11565V along with Film Four), so if they want to activate interactive features on E4+1 they'll have to add the interactive streams to the E4 Ireland transponder (either that, or move E4+1 to the old transponder). In which case there would be no reason why E4 Ireland wouldn't become interactive.

    Last year E4 stated that BB would be interactive in Ireland this year. We know this hasn't happened, but I'd say that it was due to practical issues rather than any desire to exclude their Irish viewers from the interactive experience.

    Still there's never any harm in letting them know that the Irish viewers are getting impatient. Just let them know that you're less likely to watch Big Brother if it's not accompanied by it's interactive features.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    look at the size of the DOG :eek: it's huge :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭Damomanye


    my god , it is litterly MASSIVE

    E4+1


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  • Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,166 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    Another problem with the interactive element is that the 4 streams show UK adverts, which may also be a problem?

    The Irish version of E4 should never have started!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,213 ✭✭✭✭therecklessone


    Originally posted by jdempsey
    Doesn't matter if we complained too early - at least they know us Irish are a vocal bunch!


    What good that will do.

    I'm still waiting a response from them (they acknowledged my e-mail, and said they'd be in touch :rolleyes: ) regarding my complaint over Film 4 changing to a 3 channel package, and thats over two months.

    Glad I cancelled the fecker now, I'll be old and grey before they get back to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,726 ✭✭✭✭DMC


    The DOG is hideous.... and also very wrong...

    I'm looking at it now... and it says....

    E4 +1 Live

    :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


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