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powering up from another pc on lan

  • 13-07-2003 12:36pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 861 ✭✭✭


    Afternoon all,

    I have a win98 laptop connected to my xp desktop via lan. I want to be able to power up the desktop remotely from the lap top.
    Any body know how to set this up?

    The laptop has a Xircom 10/100 network card and the desktop has an on-board Realtek rtl8139 Nic.

    I have enabled wake up by pci card in the bios but still no joy.

    Any ideas?
    Cheers
    Wavey


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,237 ✭✭✭GUI


    remotely power up the pc?

    im not aware that this is possible via lan..

    it is possible to schedule pc wake up at certain times though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 861 ✭✭✭Wavey


    Well as far as my mobo manual(abit bg7) is concerned it can be done, just tell me how.
    but thanks for the reply GUI


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭rymus


    some NIC's support wake on lan that allow a network user to remotely power up the pc by sending a 'magic packet' across the network. How that packet is sent is beyond me, perhaps the supplier of the card provides WOL software or its available for download somewhere... As far as I've seen though, it is possible


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,502 ✭✭✭MrPinK


    My own mobo doesn't support WOL so I haven't tried it, but this prog looks like it might do the trick

    http://www.youngzsoft.net/cc-get-mac-address/wol.htm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,007 ✭✭✭Moriarty


    Wake on lan usually works by, as rymus says, a magic packet being sent to the interface which sits in a low-power mode while the rest of the machine is powered off. Once the packet is recieved, it tells the mobo (and, hence, everything else) to wake up. The magic packet usually just consists of the MAC address of the card you want to wake up being repeated a few times in plain text inside a udp packet that is sent to the card in question. There are variations on this, but its usually similar.

    You need a compatible wake-on-lan network card and motherboard to be able to use it. You will also most likely need to plug in a special cable between the network card and a special port on the motherboard.

    Have a read of this for more specific info, its a bookmark i made many moons ago that i seem to remember was quite helpful.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭Cuauhtemoc


    You could try this software.
    I seem to remember it working for me before.

    Wake on Lan gui

    Thats the windows version. They have command line one as well if you prefer.

    _________
    C.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 861 ✭✭✭Wavey


    Cheers lads,
    That youngzsoft software does the trick.

    Only problem now is that i cant access any of the folders on my desktop from the laptop until i physically log on.

    Is there anyway to log in to windows xp remotley or to disable the need to log on at startup?

    thanks again lads


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭ShevY


    radmin

    i use this.
    probably better out there.
    but it's good all the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,817 ✭✭✭✭po0k


    Originally posted by Moriarty
    Wake on lan usually works by, as rymus says, a magic packet being sent to the interface which sits in a low-power mode while the rest of the machine is powered off. Once the packet is recieved, it tells the mobo (and, hence, everything else) to wake up. The magic packet usually just consists of the MAC address of the card you want to wake up being repeated a few times in plain text inside a udp packet that is sent to the card in question. There are variations on this, but its usually similar.

    You need a compatible wake-on-lan network card and motherboard to be able to use it. You will also most likely need to plug in a special cable between the network card and a special port on the motherboard.

    Have a read of this for more specific info, its a bookmark i made many moons ago that i seem to remember was quite helpful.


    PCI2.2 includes support for advanced-power-management features.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,237 ✭✭✭GUI


    wake on lan cannot power up a powered down pc!

    thats what the original question was


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭Cuauhtemoc


    wake on lan cannot power up a powered down pc!


    Have you tested it?
    It powers them on for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 491 ✭✭flav0rflav


    I'll sell you a robot that watches the laptop screen for a secret password then walks down the lan cable and plugs in whatever is at the other end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 861 ✭✭✭Wavey


    wake on lan cannot power up a powered down pc!

    Well i got a prog that does just that called "CC get MAC adress"

    It works fine. I just need to figure out how to log on now.

    I'll sell you a robot that watches the laptop screen for a secret password then walks down the lan cable and plugs in whatever is at the other end.

    lol If i hooked a lan cable to the fridge would it get me another beer?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,817 ✭✭✭✭po0k


    Originally posted by GUI
    wake on lan cannot power up a powered down pc!

    thats what the original question was

    Yes. It can.
    99 out of a hundred network admins say so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,237 ✭✭✭GUI


    i stand corrected..
    but we tried for weeks at work,
    following guidelines..

    and no joy

    if pc is in lower power saving mode, no problems

    but if pc is powered off
    no joy!

    whats best app i should try ..
    we were using altiris desktop management s/w!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,817 ✭✭✭✭po0k


    Originally posted by GUI
    i stand corrected..
    but we tried for weeks at work,
    following guidelines..

    and no joy

    if pc is in lower power saving mode, no problems

    but if pc is powered off
    no joy!

    whats best app i should try ..
    we were using altiris desktop management s/w!

    How do you mean "powered off" ? No ATX motherboard is ever fully powered off. there is always a curent running through he machine. Hence the inclusion of power swiches at the back of ATX psus nowadays.
    WOL is part of the ACPI/ATX spec.
    My amchine is 3 yers old and supports it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,308 ✭✭✭quozl


    perhaps GUI was trying this with an old AT machine?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭deepspeed


    Originally posted by Wavey
    Cheers lads,
    That youngzsoft software does the trick.

    Only problem now is that i cant access any of the folders on my desktop from the laptop until i physically log on.

    Is there anyway to log in to windows xp remotley or to disable the need to log on at startup?

    thanks again lads

    Hmmm,,... If your win xp machine is set up correctly for networking, you should absolutlely NOT have to log on to it for the shared folders to be accessible on the network....

    98 -> XP/2000/NT can be painful when setting up a network if you dont know exactly what you're at. Try enabling the 'Guest' account on your XP machine, that may fix things.

    Oh and you can allow your XP machine to log straight in without the welcome screen, just fiddle around with the Users/Accounts option in Control Panel (i cannot remember offhand what exactly to do).

    ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 861 ✭✭✭Wavey


    deepspeed, yep ur right, I dont have to log in to the xp machine to access files. It just dosent let u connect staight away after booting up, take s a minute or so to connect.

    Mr pink's link : http://www.youngzsoft.net/cc-get-mac-address/wol.htm

    This program worked for me.


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