Goodbye #quake

phoenix1111

we the undersigned, after large amounts of
abuse at the hands of certain ops of #quake,
have decided to boycott the channel for the
forseable future. Join the movement - join #gayquake!!!

Phoenix
Blaster
Bubbles
Iceman
Mickah
Mindphuck
Nicky
Koopa
Scarab
Sheron
Spaceman
tecno
tuama
vexorg
vorosha
Zero
Death
Ravan
Adidas

DEATH

MAUHAHAHAHAHA TAKE IT #QUAKE OPS SLAGS

Mickah

fu[k #quake

i'm on #gayquake from now on

#gayquake the quakers channel, not some pussy irc channel where non-quakers have OPS

Mickah

Nicky

i'm gay and so is merced

what a channel

Scarab

#Quake has turned into #morgue2 and #gayquake puts the fun back in quaking , join #gayquake and if you are not completely satisfied we will refund you completely (this aggrement has just been made invalid by you reading this post, thank you, the management)

SheroN

100 per f**king cent:/

tecno

oh i love it gayquake 10 outa 10 #quake emmm:/ lets say ops such a silence that power has fu[kn gone to his head in gayquake no powertrippers and allowed say what u think

"DEATH TO #QUAKE"
"FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Vexorg

One i did not agree to boycott #quake, you have some nerve phoenix.

Two i will never go into #gayquake again. I have never seen so much kicking and childish schemeing in my life.

If you have a problem with people op in any channel there is a proper way to complain.

Now what really annoyed me was mickah telling ppl to take turn kicking someone and then they have the nevre to complain about ops trying to control ppl in #quake.

I give #gayquake less then a week before the novelty wears off.

phoenix1111

made a mistake there,

vexorg (who was in the channel) does not support #gayquake

everyone else there does though <IMG SRC="http://lacerta.ucg.ie/boards/tongue.gif&quot; WIDTH=15 HEIGHT=15 BORDER=0 ALT=":P">

phoenix1111

just read vex's post -

i'll just say this. It's first time in YONKERS we've had a bit of craic in irc. Bout fuppin time.

bubbles

Not me phoenix, I just wanted to see what was going on. A channel thats full of ops is a disaster. No one can get a word in edgeways <IMG SRC="http://lacerta.ucg.ie/boards/smile.gif&quot; WIDTH=15 HEIGHT=15 BORDER=0 ALT=":)"> G'luck tho, means less crap going on in #quake <IMG SRC="http://lacerta.ucg.ie/boards/smile.gif&quot; WIDTH=15 HEIGHT=15 BORDER=0 ALT=":)">

Mickah

Vex,
Please don't start pi$$ing more ppl off...
dairehayer, the guy who was being kicked repeatedly was gettin OPed and deopping everyone else.
Beast knows him and he was just having fun, we were having fun kicking him and he came baq for more.
We all laughed, we all had fun.

Stay in #quake, and i don't care, just don't b1tch about #gayquake u llamma

Mickah

Vexorg

No skin off my nose mate, but its the very thing that your complaining about.

And why dont u make it personal while your at it!

Scarab

Bubbs it aint gonna be like that .....

That was like our first night party, after the people leave there are regged ops who will not kick people for pasting something into the channel, CAPS, offensive nicknames etc etc. In fact they aint gonna kick at all really except in severe cases, unlike certain silences ( i mean ops ) who kick because they like to feel big when in fact in real life no one would give them the steam off their ****.

TAAAAAAAAAAAAKEEE IT #QUAKE!

Koopa

normally, i dont have any problems with the ops in #quake.
but after seeing what actually goes on(cos im never around, prolly why i never saw this before, and reading logs of some stuff i missed, im with phoenix on this.
why was Nicky (Beast) banned for 2 days?

Scarab

Wow 14 posts in under an hour...
15 now <IMG SRC="http://lacerta.ucg.ie/boards/tongue.gif&quot; WIDTH=15 HEIGHT=15 BORDER=0 ALT=":P">

Hobbes

Erm, who kick nicky for 2 days?

And name the op's (gonna regret this <IMG SRC="http://lacerta.ucg.ie/boards/smile.gif&quot; WIDTH=15 HEIGHT=15 BORDER=0 ALT=":)">) and Why would Zero+MP be leaving? they are ops aren't they?

Zero

Eh lads, back the fuk off Vexorg, he had nothing to do with any of that sh!te, and he's right to give out about his name, I see mine there too for some reason.....I missed most of the goings on tonight, but tbh I haven't ever seen adra cause and hassle on irc, as far as I can see it's Silence who was causing so much crap, and I have always thought that he shouldn't have been an op in the first place, it's like giving crash an rcon ffs.
If ye have problems with any other ops I'd like to hear about it, I don't give anyone any hassle apart from the comicchatters and a select few that constantly annoy me.
I completely agree with what ye did, because that sort of ****e isn't on, but leave vex out of it. Silence is gone, thank god. <IMG SRC="http://lacerta.ucg.ie/boards/smile.gif&quot; WIDTH=15 HEIGHT=15 BORDER=0 ALT=":)">

TwoShedsJackson

Lads, in all honesty who gives a fiddlers fu[k about ops in one channel or some other shaggin channel.

It really isnt very important. The way some people get wound up about ops and kicking and whatever the fu[k else is completely sad.

Scarab

Well it is if u are banned from #quake for 2 days for doing nothing because of a certain op

Venom

If all u muppets are gonna boycott #quake and start up ur own chann,then what is sheron,Iceman,scarab and bubbles doing in #quake on sunday night <IMG SRC="http://lacerta.ucg.ie/boards/smile.gif&quot; WIDTH=15 HEIGHT=15 BORDER=0 ALT=":)">

bubbles

Try reading the message i left above Venom. The only muppet here is you since you make crap comments without reading the whole story.

Shiminay

Jaysus...

If there's so much grief from IOL #quake ops, why not just move to Quakenet (as suggested so long ago), where there's only a few (and Q looks after the place).

And in future - like the IQCL rules state, pre-match meetings will happen #iqcl on Quakenet. If ppl aren't there and are on servres, it doesn't matter. Quakenet is the meeting place, NOT IOL (nothing against IOL, but that's the official place - afaik IGN is getting into Quakenet).

Dav
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Shinji

Screw the IGN.

Bugger'em with a jackhammer and no lubricant.

I'm sorry, but disappearing off the scene for months on end, then returning to put up servers that are now down again after a couple of days up, and then having the nerve to tell us where to go for IRC?

IOL has worked perfectly well for IRC for years. Quakenet's ops and channel reg system is the worse I've ever seen - the Q system really, really sucks.

Ja na!
Shin-[guess who's not going to quakenet]-chan

SheroN

I was kicked from silence and banned for using the nick Pea-Ness...which i used in the IQCL early in the day....anyway just more ammo for the guns
hes gone anyway can't be a bad thing.....hes the only op who ever banned me from #quake (EVER)...its always for using nicks like Obi-Two etc i dunno reckon its a sad state and #gayquake is th best laff i ever had on irc to be honest.....nothing against any of the other ops...i love ye all..but i love silence the most<IMG SRC="http://lacerta.ucg.ie/boards/frown.gif&quot; WIDTH=15 HEIGHT=15 BORDER=0 ALT=":(">.....<IMG SRC="http://lacerta.ucg.ie/boards/smile.gif&quot; WIDTH=15 HEIGHT=15 BORDER=0 ALT=":)">))
nah anyway if any other ops besides silence were offended im sorry.......i also think someone like slosh should get silence's ops considering he did get servers for ye<

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words of wisdom from a quake2 muppet!!!!!!!

Sher-of-the-oN
p.ss silence i hope this argument won't wreck the think we've got goin?
ahahahhahhhahahahahaahaaa

SheroN

BTW i am only out of bed so no responsibilty can be takin for any spelling mistakes or grammer mistakes in the above post............
Sher-0f-the-oN
GIVE SILENCE'S OPS TO SLOSH OR SOME GOOD SOUL LIKE HIM!!!

DeVore

If it wasnt for the IGN you wouldnt have those lovely q2 servers you like so much.
Or indeed any servers as the idea would have died with the old iol wq server.
Nor would you have had Quakelords.
So, I wouldnt have done QP
And if it wasnt for Vex none of ye would be going to France.

So a bit of respect if you please.
I dont mean change your views, just express them with a bit more maturity then random personal insults.

DeV.

ButcherOfNog

aye DeVores right, "screw IGN" comments aren't getting anyone anywhere.

DeVore

Well if *you* were eddie would YOU give out a contact email or number for yerself?
Can you imagine the cr@p you would get from the muppets? "Wah... Daaa kicked me" "Wah Crash is gey"

Eddie DOES come on to irc. But he does so as an unknown name. I have fairly regular contact with him and he lets me know what is going on as much as he can (we live on the sufferance of Conor and TINET and they cant always tell us what is going on.)

Big Brother eddie is watching us and working in the background. The lad setup the community along with Cloud and Conor and Eric etc. Give them some space, they cant control such things as ISPs joining and moving offices etc.

DeV

ButcherOfNog

i see your point <IMG SRC="http://lacerta.ucg.ie/boards/smile.gif&quot; WIDTH=15 HEIGHT=15 BORDER=0 ALT=":)">

but its frustrating organizing 10 people to b on a server at a particular time and then the server isn't there.

if ed is in contact with you well i suppose we can mail you then

Wahhhh Dev, Sheron is a muppet ! <IMG SRC="http://lacerta.ucg.ie/boards/smile.gif&quot; WIDTH=15 HEIGHT=15 BORDER=0 ALT=":)">

Radovar

Surprising support when 17 lids are in #Quake and 1 in #GayQuake.

Shiminay

Please read my post on the future of IGN and quake.ie

As with regards Ed...
He'll probably kill me for saying this...

A little over a week ago, me and Ed were driving around Castlebar "cruisin" as they say and we ended up (as we invariably do) talking about quake.ie and IGN as a whole.
The lad was seriously down about the whole thing - between lack of resources and all the grief he's getting from muppets like us for this, that and the other. Ed was scarred to switch his mobile phone on for the past 3 months for Christ's sake!!!

The fact of the matter is, it's too long a story to say here, but we're gonna have to accept that unless the IGN can afford to *PAY* TInet compensation for time lost because one of they're workers (i.e. Connor) was bust looking after a non-profit organisation's games servers/websites/ftp/whatever the hell, we're not gonna have the *perfect* set up - at least not for the present.

That's about the whole of it...

Dav
(who's most likely gonna be shot by Ed)

PS:
I just want ppl to know I'm not saying anything on behalf of Ed, the IGN or quake.ie - I'm saying this as a concerned Quake player

ButcherOfNog

I pay tinet 145quid a year. how many other quakers pay them the same? I know thats not the angle you and ign are coming from but twist it around a bit. we quakers pay tinet & telecom quite a large amount of money.

no whining arsie anal childish replys about above please, either to agree or disagree. feel free to continue the discussion thou.

Shinji

Right. Since there seems to be such depth of feeling on this, I'm gonna lay my cards on the table.

To my mind, the IGN did a very good job under very difficult conditions for the first few months of their existence, and all credit to the team that were responsible for that, and especially to Eddie.

Then... it all fell apart.

There are a number of factors to blame for that as far as I can see, and nobody comes out smelling of roses. TINet have completely failed to support the IGN properly, with their main failing, as Dav outlined, being that they won't release Conor for even half a day a week to admin the servers. Eddie himself failed completely to delegate any of the running of the organisation, and despite the alleged existence of a council - although nobody seems to know who's on it - once Eddie wasn't there, nothing was happening at all. Essentially what we saw was a classic case of people making commitments to do things which they then found themselves unable to cope with.

The IGN has other major flaws. Despite being the Irish _Games_ Network, it's really the Irish Quake Network. Catering for other games just isn't their style, and while most of you probably don't complain, this channeled attitude is certainly not good for online gaming - in fact, it's incredibly damaging. Although Gamer.ie is still "in the works", the level of work I and others have put into it is not in any way paralelled by the level of support I have received. So understandably, I'm more than a little bit bitter, given that I've made a fool of myself both with other writers and in magazine articles where I made commitments to the site being up based on promises made by the IGN.

The IGN suddenly resurfacing and apparently telling us all to go to Quakenet was, for the the final straw. And if anyone feels offended by my outburst, live with it.

By the way, I'm not writing this as a concerned Quake player. I'm writing it as a concerned online games player who doesn't want to see this whole fledgling area of gaming in Ireland sink beneath a sea of Quake-obsession and general bad running of things.

Ja na,
Shinji

Shiminay

A VERY valid point Butch...

A point I'm sure has been brought to their attention.

Dav
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DISCLAIMER - I'm not saying anything on behalf of IGN or quake.ie - fact of the matter is - I don't have anything to do with any of it - I just help run the league <IMG SRC="http://lacerta.ucg.ie/boards/smile.gif&quot; WIDTH=15 HEIGHT=15 BORDER=0 ALT=":)">

Shiminay

Rob - you posted just before I did <IMG SRC="http://lacerta.ucg.ie/boards/curlydav.gif&quot; WIDTH=15 HEIGHT=15 BORDER=0 ALT="@B^)&quot;>

A lot of what you're saying about IGN kinda dissappearing and now re-surfacing is due to the fact that Ed is in a busy year of college...
Also - it's never been away, as I said in another post somewhere tonight, Ed was too busy looking after quake.ie as best he could.

Now that certain developments have unfolded, quake.ie and IGN will BOTH start moving forward. We will atlast see gamer.ie making a welcome launch and kali.ie doing whatever kali.ie is supposed to do (I play Quake and so I don't know a thing about it).

I suppose all we can do is wait... to my knowledge it won't be long!!!

Dav
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Cloud

Actually Rob I asked people to move to QuakeNet, put in a general plea on my own behalf because I think it's best for the Quake community, it wasn't an official IGN message <IMG SRC="http://lacerta.ucg.ie/boards/tongue.gif&quot; WIDTH=15 HEIGHT=15 BORDER=0 ALT=":P">

John.
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Dr_Teeth

Ok then, 'Damn IGN' for maintaining an excellent service we all enjoyed which they wrenched out from under us when we least expected it without so much as a single explaination or any indication as to when the servers (or web site, or ftp site) would be back.

That Ok?

I think that since this board is the 'official' IGN one, that they should make an 'official' post here *every* time something happens that affects their users.

Teeth.

DeVore

Indeed, they can post a weekly update every friday, just after they collect their paychecks.

There ARE things afoot with quake.ie, but not eveyone has time to spend posting to boards etc. But change is coming and it should be a return to the old days in more ways then one.

DeV.

ButcherOfNog

you have a pointish, there is no way to even contact eddie, which i was trying to do yesterday as the only mail addy on the site is eddie@quake.ie and that mail server has been down for ages.

ftp should never go back up, its a waste of good quake bandwidth, download yer mods from the uk.

DB in barrysworld mailed me back and hes building the servers atm to run bookable q2 battleground mods. this is where HIV will train from now on. we'll setup a training pact with a reliable clan (*ahem*) and play against each other ever week.

Shinji

[FX: Shin-chan hitting Cloud with a Clue Stick (TM)]

Well next time you do that, put a Kharn-esque disclaimer on the end, ok? I'm sure Dav will licence you his for a small fee... ^_^

Anyway... how are we meant to seperate "official" IGN announcements from announcements that Cloud (and Kharn... "nothing against IOL, but that's the official place - afaik IGN is getting into Quakenet" - and there was no disclaimer on that one...) decides to make that look like official IGN announcements?

Bah.

Ja na,
Shin-[grrrrrrrrr]-chan

Shiminay

I was just getting kinda sick of typing the disclaimer all the time. Everyone know's I'm not an IGN rep...I'm not even a quake.ie Rep - or at least I wouldn't consider myself anything of the sort!
I help on the league, there it ends...

Anything I post is usually my own opinion or stuff I've heard <IMG SRC="http://lacerta.ucg.ie/boards/curlydav.gif&quot; WIDTH=15 HEIGHT=15 BORDER=0 ALT="@B^)&quot;>

Dav
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PS:
Rob - I thought u had a hand in the IGN...what happened? You seem very *against* it (for SERIOUS want of a better word) all of a sudden.

Shiminay

I forgot...
Disclaimer licences *are* available.

Please send the cash sum of £100 to my home address - email me for details.

Dav
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Please note:
This is strictly to cover my costs. Dav's Disclaimers (LTD) is a non-profit organisation designed to help out poor students increase their social skills by integrating them with fellow student contemporary's in familiar evironments such as classes, public houses, nite-clubs, house parties etc.