Frozen can of Bulmers

vicwatson · 09-02-2012 08:32PM #1

Left a can in the freezer by mistake last week. It didn't burst. I just put it into the fridge, will it be ok to drink, or will the c02 be gone out of it??

Might be ok to cook a ham?

superstoner90 · 09-02-2012 08:34PM

Id say it would be alright to use. But sure you could all ways make a bulmers ice lollie.

the beer revolu · 09-02-2012 08:35PM

vicwatson wrote: »

Left a can in the freezer by mistake last week. It didn't burst. I just put it into the fridge, will it be ok to drink, or will the c02 be gone out of it??

Might be ok to cook a ham?

Might be a bit flat.
Won't harm you.
Yes would be good for a ham.

Howjoe1 · 09-02-2012 08:37PM

It would be a shame to waste. I'd take a chance...but don't add ice:D

toffeeshel · 10-02-2012 01:10AM

Pour it down the sink, and go out to buy a real cider- Stonewell, Tobys, Macs, Armagh, Double ll, the choice is yours

rubadub · 10-02-2012 01:43PM

If the can is not deformed it was probably not frozen solid so is usually OK.

toffeeshel wrote: »

Pour it down the sink, and go out to buy a real cider- Stonewell, Tobys, Macs, Armagh, Double ll, the choice is yours

Many bulmers drinkers do not like 'real' cider, thats why they drink a product which is completely different to it. I would class it alongside alcohopops or premixed drinks. It is very similar to cidona & vodka.

vicwatson · 10-02-2012 03:18PM

toffeeshel wrote: »

Pour it down the sink, and go out to buy a real cider- Stonewell, Tobys, Macs, Armagh, Double ll, the choice is yours

Cheers, where is it I can get 18 cans of these for 24euro?

Technocentral · 10-02-2012 03:41PM

vicwatson wrote: »

Cheers, where is it I can get 18 cans of these for 24euro?

You can't but quality is worth paying for

the beer revolu · 10-02-2012 05:44PM

toffeeshel wrote: »

Pour it down the sink, and go out to buy a real cider- Stonewell, Tobys, Macs, Armagh, Double ll, the choice is yours

rubadub wrote: »

Many bulmers drinkers do not like 'real' cider, thats why they drink a product which is completely different to it. I would class it alongside alcohopops or premixed drinks. It is very similar to cidona & vodka.

Being all superior and condescending towards people who drink mainstream drinks is no way to convert them to craft/specialist/quality/artisan/premium products. It simply gets people's backs up and does nothing for the cause!

longhalloween · 10-02-2012 06:08PM

toffeeshel wrote: »

Pour it down the sink, and go out to buy a real cider- Stonewell, Tobys, Macs, Armagh, Double ll, the choice is yours

Stonehouse, Ritz, Druids, Devil's Bit and Tesco's own brand all the way

vicwatson · 10-02-2012 06:13PM

Do they still sell Autumn Gold ?

rubadub · 10-02-2012 06:19PM

the beer revolu wrote: »

Being all superior and condescending towards people who drink mainstream drinks

I was defending the OPs choice, by saying you cannot really compare them, they are very different drinks in my mind. I am not trying to convert anybody, the opposite in fact, saying leave him be, he obviously likes it, nothing wrong with that and I never inferred there was.

I used to drink bulmers in my teens, I used to like cidona and it is more like a premixed drink, I did not like other ciders back then. I do not view mixed drinks or bulmers as either 'high class' or 'low class'. One mixed drink I would recommend he try is vodka & pressed apple juice, which I hear is popular in Scandinavia, and which I love myself. I think this works out about the same price as bulmers (per unit alcohol).

To me this is like somebody saying they froze some fresh chicken nuggets by mistake, asking for advice and being told to throw them out and buy a free range corn fed chicken. Same animal, but quite different. If both were free people might still go for the nuggets.

Happyman42 · 10-02-2012 06:22PM

toffeeshel wrote: »

Pour it down the sink, and go out to buy a real cider- Stonewell, Tobys, Macs, Armagh, Double ll, the choice is yours

Is the Armagh made in Armagh? Never seen it.

BeerNut · 10-02-2012 06:24PM

Happyman42 wrote: »

Is the Armagh made in Armagh?

Yes.

Happyman42 wrote: »

Never seen it.

They only just got a distributor for the Republic in the last week or so.

And it's possible that their long list of NI outlets is somewhat aspirational.

the beer revolu · 10-02-2012 07:04PM

rubadub wrote: »

I was defending the OPs choice, by saying you cannot really compare them, they are very different drinks in my mind. I am not trying to convert anybody, the opposite in fact, saying leave him be, he obviously likes it, nothing wrong with that and I never inferred there was.

I used to drink bulmers in my teens, I used to like cidona and it is more like a premixed drink, I did not like other ciders back then. I do not view mixed drinks or bulmers as either 'high class' or 'low class'. One mixed drink I would recommend he try is vodka & pressed apple juice, which I hear is popular in Scandinavia, and which I love myself. I think this works out about the same price as bulmers (per unit alcohol).

To me this is like somebody saying they froze some fresh chicken nuggets by mistake, asking for advice and being told to throw them out and buy a free range corn fed chicken. Same animal, but quite different. If both were free people might still go for the nuggets.

I guess I took you up wrong:o

Technocentral · 10-02-2012 07:07PM

toffeeshel wrote: »

Pour it down the sink, and go out to buy a real cider- Stonewell, Tobys, Macs, Armagh, Double ll, the choice is yours

The problem with your suggestion is availability, very hard to find any of those in more than one or two off licenses in Dublin (or rest of the South) whereas the chemical, artificial ones are everywhere unfortunately, of the ones you suggest have only tasted Double LL so far and loved it.

Happyman42 · 10-02-2012 09:33PM

BeerNut wrote: »

Yes.

They only just got a distributor for the Republic in the last week or so.

And it's possible that their long list of NI outlets is somewhat aspirational.

Cheers...must try and get me some of that. Is it good and dry?

BeerNut · 10-02-2012 10:44PM

It's a few years since I've tasted it, but yes: I remember it being quite tart.

garyingalway · 12-02-2012 05:58PM

longhalloween wrote: »

Stonehouse, Ritz, Druids, Devil's Bit and Tesco's own brand all the way

Tinker Juice.

stimpson · 12-02-2012 06:14PM

I don't get the cider snobbery. Bulmers is made by fermenting pressed apple juice. They don't even add yeast. It's a little on the sweet side for me, but still drinkable. Why do people class it as an alcopop?

Devils Bit is cheap as chips but tastes of apples, is dryer than Bulmers and doesn't leave you with a headache in the morning. Is it because it's sold in flaggons that it's classed as "Tinker Juice"

I suspect Double L is backsweetened with an artificial sweetener as it has an aftertaste, yet you'd swear it was fermented from angels tears from what you read here. :rolleyes:

irish_goat · 12-02-2012 07:45PM

Bulmers has heaps of sugar added, as well as preservatives, colourings and acidic regulators.

Double L say on their mission statement:
"We do not add sugar to sweeten, we do not use preservatives, colours, flavours, or such additives."

Technocentral · 12-02-2012 07:56PM

stimpson wrote: »

I don't get the cider snobbery. Bulmers is made by fermenting pressed apple juice. They don't even add yeast. It's a little on the sweet side for me, but still drinkable. Why do people class it as an alcopop?

Devils Bit is cheap as chips but tastes of apples, is dryer than Bulmers and doesn't leave you with a headache in the morning. Is it because it's sold in flaggons that it's classed as "Tinker Juice"

I suspect Double L is backsweetened with an artificial sweetener as it has an aftertaste, yet you'd swear it was fermented from angels tears from what you read here. :rolleyes:

Its not snobbery, stuff like Bulmers are vile, chemical tasting concoctions, since when is advocating natural alternatives snobbery?

stimpson · 12-02-2012 08:07PM

irish_goat wrote: »

Bulmers has heaps of sugar added, as well as preservatives, colourings and acidic regulators.

Double L say on their mission statement:
"We do not add sugar to sweeten, we do not use preservatives, colours, flavours, or such additives."

Bulmers detail their process here:

http://bulmers.ie/cider_making.html

I see no mention of sugar. They do add yeast apparently. I'm sure if there were additives the Advertising Standards people would be on to them for the "Nothing added but time" ads.

The Double L mission statement leaves a little wiggle room. I'd like to know how they keep the sweetness of their medium dry cider without using non fermentable sugars.

Edit: Devis Bit website says:

Devils Bit Cider
Produced from our own orchards in County Tipperary, Devils Bit is one of Ireland’s biggest selling ciders.

With an abv of 6%, this strong cider contains no artificial colours, no artificial sweeteners and no added flavouring.

Devils Bit cider, named after the Devils Bit mountain peak in County Tipperary is available in a 2 litre bottle and a 500ml can.

irish_goat · 12-02-2012 08:45PM

stimpson wrote: »

Bulmers detail their process here:

http://bulmers.ie/cider_making.html

I see no mention of sugar. They do add yeast apparently. I'm sure if there were additives the Advertising Standards people would be on to them for the "Nothing added but time" ads.

The Double L mission statement leaves a little wiggle room. I'd like to know how they keep the sweetness of their medium dry cider without using non fermentable sugars.

Bulmers isn't suitable for diabetics whereas real cider is, go figure. http://www.independent.ie/national-news/nothing-added-but-time-sugar-chemicals-and-sulphites-1200547.html

"As stated, in order to ensure consistency of product, we make some post-fermentation adjustments to Bulmers sweetness, colour and acidity. As you can appreciate however, the detail of the recipe is confidential."

Double L pride themselves on being natural food producing farm, it wouldn't be in their interest to start adding crap.

stimpson · 12-02-2012 10:10PM

irish_goat wrote: »

Bulmers isn't suitable for diabetics whereas real cider is, go figure. http://www.independent.ie/national-news/nothing-added-but-time-sugar-chemicals-and-sulphites-1200547.html

Ok, I stand corrected. I still maintain it's a long way from an alcopop which is just alcohol, water, flavouring and sugar.

And I do maintain that Double L has a funky aftertaste. If it's naturally carbonated then he must be sweetening it or killing the yeast.

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