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Dublin Marathon 2021

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 FinnC
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    MayoSalmon wrote: »
    The risk of catching Covid OUTSIDE is almost non existence

    One documented case in China of 2 men literally speaking into each others face for 45 minutes I believe.

    Absolute mad gang of scientists running the country...beyond embarrassing.
    Tell that to the woman who dramatically backed herself up to a wall and covered her mouth with her hand as I ran past her this morning!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,622 ultrapercy
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    MayoSalmon wrote: »
    The risk of catching Covid OUTSIDE is almost non existence

    One documented case in China of 2 men literally speaking into each others face for 45 minutes I believe.

    Absolute mad gang of scientists running the country...beyond embarrassing.

    The type of congregation that occurs at start and finish of a mass participation event like a marathon is a definite risk of spread. Every European country is in much the same boat in regard to large or medium scale events, Irelands scientists are no different in their approach than those in most countries. Some Childrens and adult outdoor activites should resume now though as they can be managed safely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 MayoSalmon
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    ultrapercy wrote: »
    The type of congregation that occurs at start and finish of a mass participation event like a marathon is a definite risk of spread. Every European country is in much the same boat in regard to large or medium scale events, Irelands scientists are no different in their approach than those in most countries. Some Childrens and adult outdoor activites should resume now though as they can be managed safely.

    Rare to impossible pal....changes can be made to the start of the marathon regards waves. Outdoor activities are so low risk its almost pointless talking about them...

    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-10-coronavirus-rare-impossible.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,622 ultrapercy
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    MayoSalmon wrote: »
    Rare to impossible pal....changes can be made to the start of the marathon regards waves. Outdoor activities are so low risk its almost pointless talking about them...

    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-10-coronavirus-rare-impossible.html
    there is nothing that will convince me that thousands of people packed together at the start of a race is not a risk, of course it is how could it not be?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 zico10
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    ultrapercy wrote: »
    there is nothing that will convince me that thousands of people packed together at the start of a race is not a risk, of course it is how could it not be?

    My reading of the linked article would support this stance as well.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,626 py
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    ultrapercy wrote: »
    The type of congregation that occurs at start and finish of a mass participation event like a marathon is a definite risk of spread. Every European country is in much the same boat in regard to large or medium scale events, Irelands scientists are no different in their approach than those in most countries. Some Childrens and adult outdoor activites should resume now though as they can be managed safely.

    There's also the large congregations of spectators all along the DCM route. which in my minimal experience, is what makes it such a great day. If there were no spectators/supporters, I'd probably just opt for a virtual or deferred entry.


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    py wrote: »
    There's also the large congregations of spectators all along the DCM route. which in my minimal experience, is what makes it such a great day. If there were no spectators/supporters, I'd probably just opt for a virtual or deferred entry.

    I think that would be a big factor for many people. I'd probably run it regardless of spectators but it would be a very different ecperience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 FinnC
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    Would be next to impossible to stop anyone watching the Dublin Marathon though surely?
    Maybe towards the finish line it would be possible by closing the road, but over the full 26.2 miles of the current course it would be impossible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,895 average_runner
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    FinnC wrote: »
    Would be next to impossible to stop anyone watching the Dublin Marathon though surely?
    Maybe towards the finish line it would be possible by closing the road, but over the full 26.2 miles of the current course it would be impossible.




    Close Phoenix Park and run it in there. Pretty simple.
    Not the answer you want to hear of course


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 sgal


    I don’t want to get my hopes up but I think it will definitely go ahead!😬


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 873 Unthought Known
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    Why close anything? We are all meant to be vaccinated by then. Zero covid won't happen, just like zero flu won't happen. Chances of infection outside, no matter if you're waiting in a starting area, when 90+% are vaccinated and close to 100% are in full health, is so remote it's not worth thinking about. And let's be realistic here, I've started DCM in waves 1, 2 and 3 and I've never felt like I'm packed in like a sardine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,895 average_runner
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    Why close anything? We are all meant to be vaccinated by then. Zero covid won't happen, just like zero flu won't happen. Chances of infection outside, no matter if you're waiting in a starting area, when 90+% are vaccinated and close to 100% are in full health, is so remote it's not worth thinking about. And let's be realistic here, I've started DCM in waves 1, 2 and 3 and I've never felt like I'm packed in like a sardine.




    If we all have the vaccine. let it rock


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 Burkie1203
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    Close Phoenix Park and run it in there. Pretty simple.
    Not the answer you want to hear of course

    Phoenix Park as a start and finish point with only DCM accredited ppl and entrants allowed in on the day

    Shutting down chunks of city centre isn't viable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 zico10
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    Burkie1203 wrote: »

    Shutting down chunks of city centre isn't viable.

    Why not? Except for last year, it’s been done every year since 1980.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 SeeMoreBut
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    Where do people park if you held it in the park?

    How many do you allow run?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,303 event
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    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    Phoenix Park as a start and finish point with only DCM accredited ppl and entrants allowed in on the day

    .

    If that was the case I'd pass. Would be pretty crap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,159 Zebra3
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    If we all have the vaccine. let it rock

    Everyone will never be vaccinated.

    Life needs to move on though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,895 average_runner
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    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Everyone will never be vaccinated.

    Life needs to move on though.




    Well the people who want it will hopefully have it. If people don't want to take, that's their choice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,159 Zebra3
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    Well the people who want it will hopefully have it. If people don't want to take, that's their choice.

    Yep, but that’s two different things.

    Especially when you hear people talking about zero Covid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,895 average_runner
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    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Yep, but that’s two different things.

    Especially when you hear people talking about zero Covid.




    Zero covid went out the door when borders were left open.


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    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Yep, but that’s two different things.

    Especially when you hear people talking about zero Covid.

    Zero covid is like talking about zero flu, it won't happen at this stage.

    If you went back to Feb 2020 it could have happened but the door is wide open at this stage, for proper herd immunity with vaccines we're going to need between 80-85% of the population vaccinated.

    I'd worry if Ireland can even manage that uptake due to the likes of conspiracy theorists


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 433 PCX
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    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    Phoenix Park as a start and finish point with only DCM accredited ppl and entrants allowed in on the day

    Shutting down chunks of city centre isn't viable.

    It would be pretty similar to the Berlin Marathon then. It starts and finishes in the Tiergarten. That marathon still has a great atmosphere.

    I'm not sure you would have to close down the entire park to non participants though. I'm sure they could fence off an area big enough for the start and finish (might be expensive to do though).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 Burkie1203
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    PCX wrote: »
    It would be pretty similar to the Berlin Marathon then. It starts and finishes in the Tiergarten. That marathon still has a great atmosphere.

    I'm not sure you would have to close down the entire park to non participants though. I'm sure they could fence off an area big enough for the start and finish (might be expensive to do though).

    Fence off? You have these things called walls and gates. Just make it officials, medics etc and competitors only in park.

    Can't be done in city centre as a lot of people live in city centre. Phoenix park only real option to do this way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,773 rovers_runner
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    Ruh roh, time to look for a new sponsor.

    https://www.independent.ie/business/irish/kbclooks-at-exiting-irish-market-with-potential-sale-of-loans-and-liabilities-to-bank-of-ireland-40319253.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=seeding

    Potential sponsors:
    Elverys - of the options for retailers they seem the best as they still make some effort to promote athletics unlike Champion/JD, they don't really have a link with Dublin itself though so might not be happen

    Larger Dublin HQ companies:
    An Post
    Three Ireland - have opening with no longer sponsoring FAI
    VHI - Parkrun sponsors
    Dalata hotel group - seeing they own a dozen hotels on the route

    For the foodies:
    Abrakebabra Dublin Marathon?
    Apache Pizza Dublin Marathon?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,895 average_runner
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    zico10 wrote: »
    Why not? Except for last year, it’s been done every year since 1980.




    When was the city shutdown ? It was never shutdown for the marathon, people always had access on foot etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,970 aquinn
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    See new law signed in this morning that elite athletes won't have to do hotel quarantine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,525 kilns
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    The way the Irish government have been super strict and trying to achieve as low as possible figures, what are the real chances the Marathon will go ahead in the way that we know it?

    I have my entry from 2020 but am not based here, I cant see them running the race "behind closed doors" and closing off the whole Pheonix park for example and if they did, that totally loses the appeal of especially the Dublin Marathon, no supporters!

    I dont have much faith that the GOvt. will allow the race go ahead, as they would be scared of their lives of an outbreak, I hope I am wrong but I will be looking at races around that period within 3/4 hours of me i.e. Paris, Frankfurt or Munich as a back up


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 495 wpd
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    maybe no race series just marathon will be announcement???


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 FinnC
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    wpd wrote: »
    maybe no race series just marathon will be announcement???

    They said registration details will be announced for the race series so there must be something going ahead, might turn out to be a virtual race series though.


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