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Yet another what car suits.
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15-05-2017 12:44PM#1Hello,
Yet another what car thread. Looking to buy a car. Here are my stats.
- Drive 6000 miles a year
- Car predominantly used for going to work
- Journey to work is 13 miles:
first mile is getting on motorway (5 mins)
then 10 miles motorway driving
last 2 miles is stop start traffic and takes about 15 mins.
- Car will be used sometimes with 2 child seats
- Partner has a diesel car which we use for all the other long journeys etc.
Things may change in a couple of years when the children start going to soccer, rugby , hurling, chess, synchronized swimming on Saturdays etc etc but for now they are still small, so this hasn't started yet. When this starts, would prefer to use the petrol car for this ferrying around as these would be short enough journeys.
Would like a petrol car
that is RELIABLE
Preferably an AUTOMATIC.
with relatively decent MPG. 35 mpg maybe
I dont want something like a 1.4 petrol, too sluggish.
Would like something with a bit of poke in it. 0-60 in under 10. The lower the better
Need back doors
Saloon or hatchback
Would like a 2010 or so car
Budget = 9 - 10,000
Any thoughts?0
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So that's a 24kWh car with dual onboard chargers (2 x 3.3kW).
The AC battery charger that's used at home is built into the car.
The chargepoint is just a glorified outdoor socket with some extra safety features.
kWh (kilowatt-hour) is a measure of capacity
kW (kilowatt) is a measure of instantaneous power
So motor output, accessory consumption and chargers are measured in kW. Battery capacity is measured in kWh.
For example: A 100kW motor operating at 8% output will draw 8kW. A 100kWh battery will supply an 8kW load for 100 / 8 = 12.5 hours.
The seller is a well known Athlone-based importer of cars from the UK
They have a good reputation for bringing in good quality stock.
All Irish Leafs have rapid charging, however some imports from the UK (mostly pre-161 XE/Visia base models) lack the rapid charging port.
Rapid charging is what enables long range trips so it's an essential.
I'm confused now
In regard to a 2014 Leaf......bringing it back to normal cars e.g. Like a BMW 520d 525d etc
Do the leafs come in different power ranges or better models, faster charging cars ?0 -
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from_atozinc wrote: »I'm confused now
In regard to a 2014 Leaf......bringing it back to normal cars e.g. Like a BMW 520d 525d etc
Do the leafs come in different power ranges or better models, faster charging cars ?
Not at the moment. Higher priced EVs do have several motor power options.
It's a fast changing market. My i3 hit the market in Ireland in 2014, in 2016 got a 57% larger capacity battery, this september the i3S will launch with double the battery capacity of the 2014 model in the same size and weight and dual motor AWD.
Jaguar are launching the i-Pace SUV at the same show with multiple motor and battery options. That will have 170kW rapid charging vs 50kW for the i3 and Leaf.
The new chargers being rolled out across europe this summer can supply up 400kW vs the current 50kW units. Which means if you had the battery that could take it they'd deliver 400km of range to an EV in 10 minutes or less.
For the moment at the lower end of the market the competition will be on battery capacity with charging rate a distant 2nd. Mainly because the EV owner doing average mileage only charges at a rapid charger on a road trip a couple of times a year. Though newer EVs like Hyundai's Ioniq or the Kia Soul EV have 70kW and 100kW rapid charge rates respectively.
But you're talking €25k after scrappage and a place on a waiting list 'til November for the Ioniq (except for a few white demo cars) 'cause Hyundai Ireland is sold out.
In the used market there is not a whole lot of choice except from the UK. From 2010-161 almost 90% of EV sales in Ireland were all Leafs.acronym Chilli wrote: »I thought that, but it seemed like such a big problem in the electric vehicle logistics I'd hoped there was a workaround. I mean on public on street chargers the cable issue has to be handled somehow.?
Bit of a problem for a lot of folk then. Also hard to make it work in apartment buildings (if it grows to any scale), rented accommodation of any type, terraced properties, etc.,
Meanwhile the EV targets are huge. Definitely not been thought out properly (though in long run EV is technically the way to go)
I think right now for the majority of people doing 40-50,000km/year or less (with 1-2 or less 200km one charge trips a week), buying new, with a driveway and looking at the body styles available, an EV is a no-brainer.
For those with unallocated or on-street parking... in 2-3 years there will be several options of cars with 400km+ range and 150kW+ rapid charging. Kia/Hyundai, Nissan, Jaguar, Telsa, Audi and Mercedes all have 300-500km+ EVs on the way in the next 12-18 months. BMW's i3S will be somewhere in the 250-300km area. Renault's Zoe 40 (launched this month in Ireland) is already around 250-300km. I'm looking at real world ranges there.
Battery prices have dropped 80% since Nissan launched the Leaf so we're starting to see the point where at least at the premium end direct competition with petrol/diesel on purchase price is becoming possible.0 -
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