how to quit tv license

spacekiwi

Hi, havent had a telly for almost a year now, as it packed up and i got a laptop and projector for wall.
I heard that if you had a laptop u would still have to pay from this year onward.
However on news today they said thats not going to happen.
So am i right that im paying 160 for no reason if i have no pshyical telly?
If so how do i stop getting letters to pay?
Thanks.

bmwguy

spacekiwi wrote: »

Hi, havent had a telly for almost a year now, as it packed up and i got a laptop and projector for wall.
I heard that if you had a laptop u would still have to pay from this year onward.
However on news today they said thats not going to happen.
So am i right that im paying 160 for no reason if i have no pshyical telly?
If so how do i stop getting letters to pay?
Thanks.

Write back and tell them you have no TV. Take it from there. Might have to prove you have no TV by allowing an inspector in.

rubadub

spacekiwi wrote: »

Hi, havent had a telly for almost a year now, as it packed up and i got a laptop and projector for wall.
I heard that if you had a laptop u would still have to pay from this year onward.
However on news today they said thats not going to happen.
So am i right that im paying 160 for no reason if i have no pshyical telly?
If so how do i stop getting letters to pay?
Thanks.

is it gone from the house, they can deem it repairable and you then need a licence. I think you are liable if you have any sort of tuner.

I have a plasma TV but no tuner in it so it is then regarded as a monitor. But I have a dvd player/recorder which has a tuner and so I do have a tv licence.

I think even if you have no tv at all but had a video recorder with a tuner you are technically liable.

dev100

rubadub wrote:

is it gone from the house, they can deem it repairable and you then need a licence. I think you are liable if you have any sort of tuner.

It doesn't even need to be repairable once a TV is in the house your supposed to pay

bmwguy wrote:

Write back and tell them you have no TV. Take it from there. Might have to prove you have no TV by allowing an inspector in.

I moved out of my apartment and moved to a house already with TV license . I just emailed them when I got the renewal letter and attached a pic of letter and explained I had moved and the license was no longer applicable . Got a response a week later thanking me for the update and that was it.

Frank O. Pinion

It's a very, very easily avoidable stupid tax. Just stop paying it and don't engage with them.

GhostyMcGhost

Frank O. Pinion wrote: »

It's a very, very easily avoidable stupid tax. Just stop paying it and don't engage with them.

Worst advice ever

Frank O. Pinion

GhostyMcGhost wrote: »

Worst advice ever

I haven't paid it for decades and saved thousands. Do you like giving the government money you really don't have to?

rubadub

I get the impression that the OP is not a cnut who would be willing to effectively be stealing from his friends & family, forcing them to pay his way.

I wonder if any businessmen involved in tax evasion try and convince themselves its all OK, since they don't use say wheelchair ramps, libraries, playgrounds that their taxes may go towards, I very much doubt they would have the gall to call it "savings". Probably not, I have more respect for straight up scumbag thieves who admit they are cnuts. The assholes who literally hide behind the curtain annoy me, especially when 99% of them do not even have the decency to write a letter to their TD if they are so opposed to it, the least they could do for "saving thousands".

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

bmwguy wrote: »

Write back and tell them you have no TV. Take it from there. Might have to prove you have no TV by allowing an inspector in.

Totally untrue, you absolutely do not have to let the TV inspector into your house. Absolute nonsence

Frank O. Pinion wrote: »

I haven't paid it for decades and saved thousands. Do you like giving the government money you really don't have to?

Whether you agree with the license or not is your opinion and not paying for it is your choice, but suggesting others follow your ways is not very smart.

dev100

rubadub wrote:

I get the impression that the OP is not a cnut who would be willing to effectively be stealing from his friends & family, forcing them to pay his way.

To be honest you have a valid point , if the system was fair and equal amongst all the citizens I would agree with you .... however i wouldn't take the morale high ground with anyone these days. What I've seen and heard over the last number of years with our successive governments and our state institutions and our banking institutions and people have having to pay for the banks reckless gambling etc and the corruptions , I'm of the opinion of the little man wants to save 160 Euro a year for overpaid rte employees and propaganda crap I say fair play.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander

Frank O. Pinion

I pay my other taxes, and support what they go towards, whether I use the service or not. I do not pay the silly, easily avoidable "TV license" tax, because I don't support RTE and well, because it's so damn easy not to pay it.

Try explaining to Americans what a "TV license" is, you will be laughed at. Do you want to be laughed at by Americans?

koumi

Contact your local Post Office, you will get a form there where you can declare that you do not have a set top box. The document will be forwarded to an inspector who will come out and check your property and job done.

Phoebas

Frank O. Pinion wrote: »

Try explaining to Americans what a "TV license" is, you will be laughed at. Do you want to be laughed at by Americans?

The US government fund public service broadcasting to the tune of about half a billion dollars a year.

For Reals

You don't have to let anyone in unless it's a cop with a warrant. Certainly not some person working part time for RTE knocking on doors.

If you've no TV on the premises, they are either going by a subscription you might have, seeing a cable go into your house or just chancing their arm. If you ever paid, they simply have you on a list and see it's expired.
I would try addressing it with them directly because you don't know how you'll end up if you go before a judge. Tell them you've absolutely no TV, working or otherwise and don't offer any information regarding projector/laptop etc.

koumi

For Reals wrote: »

You don't have to let anyone in unless it's a cop with a warrant. Certainly not some person working part time for RTE knocking on doors.

If you've no TV on the premises, they are either going by a subscription you might have, seeing a cable go into your house or just chancing their arm. If you ever paid, they simply have you on a list and see it's expired.
I would try addressing it with them directly because you don't know how you'll end up if you go before a judge. Tell them you've absolutely no TV, working or otherwise and don't offer any information regarding projector/laptop etc.

I did this when my TV license came up for renewal. I had disconnected from my service provider about three months previously and had no intention of renewing anything other than a broadband contract with them. I went to the post office with the renewal letter and they filled it out for me, put my previous TV license details on it and when I asked about laptops or broadband services they said it was ok, as long as there was no TV in the house. Got rid of TV and signed off on the documents, giving permission for an inspector to check if they wanted.
I'd rather deal with it up front than living with the threat of legal action for not having one sometime down the line.

Ludo

Frank O. Pinion wrote: »

Try explaining to Americans what a "TV license" is, you will be laughed at. Do you want to be laughed at by Americans?

So what? That doesn't make them right or better. Try explaining how every other country on earth provides healthcare and maternity leave paid for by taxes also to Americans and watch them laugh at you (actually half of them may cry instead but you get my drift).

Alpha_zero

GhostyMcGhost wrote: »

Worst advice ever

Best advice ever

flutered

bit of info on this subject
http://www.thejournal.ie/tv-licence-tablets-3372347-May2017/

Agent Coulson

The US may not a tv license fee but also have ads every 12 minutes a two hour movie can take three hours plus to watch depending on how many ads they want to put in.

HenryHill

Frank O. Pinion wrote: »

It's a very, very easily avoidable stupid tax. Just stop paying it and don't engage with them.

Works a treat for me, for the last 14 years. Stupid tax

Spon Farmer

Agent Coulson wrote: »

The US may not a tv license fee but also have ads every 12 minutes a two hour movie can take three hours plus to watch depending on how many ads they want to put in.

I'd love many American TV shows but I could watch TV in America, :mad:

I tried watching Supergirl and The Flash on The CW website a couple of times, but there was about six commercial breaks - and most of those ads were advertising CW shows, or the CW itself.

Thank heaven for Netflix and the BBC

spurious

Write in Irish, bemoaning the lack of religious programming in Irish, specifically the Tridentine Mass. They will file you under loon.

Spon Farmer

spurious wrote: »

Write in Irish, bemoaning the lack of religious programming in Irish, specifically the Tridentine Mass. They will file you under loon.

jca

spurious wrote: »

Write in Irish, bemoaning the lack of religious programming in Irish, specifically the Tridentine Mass. They will file you under loon.

Shur the 9 first Fridays never harmed anyone...

tina1040

So do you have to let a tv inspector search your whole house for a repairable tv? Is an inspector going to enter your bedroom or go up to the attic searching for anything that resembles a tv?!!!!!!



I have a tv license by the way.

satguy

I would be happy to pay my water charges, if they agreed to shut down RTE, I would also be happy to send the BBC €4 a month.

jca

satguy wrote: »

I would be happy to pay my water charges, if they agreed to shut down RTE, I would also be happy to send the BBC €4 a month.

No you wouldn't. I suppose the nct is a money racket too.

jca

spacekiwi wrote: »

Hi, havent had a telly for almost a year now, as it packed up and i got a laptop and projector for wall.
I heard that if you had a laptop u would still have to pay from this year onward.
However on news today they said thats not going to happen.
So am i right that im paying 160 for no reason if i have no pshyical telly?
If so how do i stop getting letters to pay?
Thanks.

I just emailed the post office to tell them there was no TV on the premises (for my father) I have a TV licence.

dev100

jca wrote:

No you wouldn't. I suppose the nct is a money racket too.

It certainly is a money racket.... that's another debate though

satguy

jca wrote: »

No you wouldn't. I suppose the nct is a money racket too.

When you get told "your car failed" as your headlight beam is half a cm too high, you know its a scam.

Its only a turn of a screw, he should just do it for you, and let you be on your way. But oh no, you have to come back for a re test.

But with that said,, I would be happy to be scammed by NCT if the would close down RTE.

Yakult

Isn't the price worth it for the angelus every evening? Forcing their ****e religion onto us.

jca

Yakult wrote: »

Isn't the price worth it for the angelus every evening? Forcing their ****e religion onto us.

Mute does it for me.

jca

satguy wrote: »

When you get told "your car failed" as your headlight beam is half a cm too high, you know its a scam.

Its only a turn of a screw, he should just do it for you, and let you be on your way. But oh no, you have to come back for a re test.

But with that said,, I would be happy to be scammed by NCT if the would close down RTE.

Get your lights checked before the test, you can do it yourself by driving up to a wall, not difficult. Of all the vehicles I've had tested none have failed on misaligned lights. A blind man on a galloping horse can see if a light is too high or low, the tolerances used by the Nct are quite generous believe it or not.

paleoperson

Frank O. Pinion wrote: »

It's a very, very easily avoidable stupid tax. Just stop paying it and don't engage with them.

"Daddy went to court for standing up for something he believes in".

Could you handle the shame?

Frank O. Pinion

If you somehow get caught by a "TV License Inspector", you deserve to go to court. Like I said, it's very easy to avoid paying the silly tax and have nothing to do with them.

lucernarian

Do old analogue-only (PAL) TVs require a licence? I didn't think they were "capable of receiving broadcast services" or whatever the law says.

Banjoxed

Asher Helpful Robbery wrote: »

Totally untrue, you absolutely do not have to let the TV inspector into your house. Absolute nonsence



Whether you agree with the license or not is your opinion and not paying for it is your choice, but suggesting others follow your ways is not very smart.

No, this is Nonce Sense -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NesjvRihbEg

SPDUB

lucernarian wrote: »

Do old analogue-only (PAL) TVs require a licence? I didn't think they were "capable of receiving broadcast services" or whatever the law says.

They are quite capable of receiving broadcast services , it's just that there is no broadcast services transmitted .

rubadub

Frank O. Pinion wrote: »

Try explaining to Americans what a "TV license" is, you will be laughed at. Do you want to be laughed at by Americans?

That's the most bizarre question I have heard in a while! Many americans would certainly know about the existence of tv licences, do you think they are all ignorant morons?

If somebody was ignorant about the existence of TV licences, which are used in a large % of "first world" countries, then fair enough, I am sure I am ignorant about some taxation & licencing in other countries but cannot recall a time I thought one was laughable -can you?

If they laughed after being informed about tv licences, then I would sort of feel embarrassed for them, regardless of their nationality. I would certainly not be bothered myself at being laughed at for explaining about a form of tax many countries use. Would you seriously be upset or something?!?

I have seen online discussions about the BBC before, not sure if they were americans (not sure if it's just americans laughing at you that you seemingly have an issue with) but I never saw anybody indicating they thought it was humorous or bizarre. As said the US already have their own form of it in a way.

paleoperson wrote: »

"Daddy went to court for standing up for something he believes in".

99% of the time daddy is usually a cowardly cnut standing behind a curtain, certainly not "standing up for something" making his so called friends and family pay his share. I said before the least these (effectively) thieves could do is actual protest against it, write a letter or go march or something. Nothing but scumbags who deserve zero respect otherwise.

paleoperson wrote: »

Could you handle the shame?.

shameless cnuts feel no shame, so yeah, many can easily handle it. Stupid to clutter up tv with ads like these. Its like ads saying burglarly is wrong, however most burglars are likely not trying to pathetically excuse their crime like many of these assholes do.

I am totally against the TV licence BTW, I think it should be made into a subscription service, which was investigated and saw to be a viable option. If they want to continue with it as is then the licence should be scrapped and it should be paid for in general taxation like other countries do, lower social welfare payments in an appropriate amount to cover non taxpayers.

In a survey a while back 99% of household were seen as liable to pay, this has probably decreased in recent years as people are legally using tax avoidance methods, i.e. get rid of the tv and use laptops etc instead. But most are still availing of the services, many are ignorant about how they still avail of them of course, many stupidly think if they do not watch RTE directly then they are getting absolutely zero use of what the fees pay for.

It is ridiculous how easy it is to avoid this tax, and it should not be. I also find it very hard to believe statements like this,

Frank O. Pinion wrote: »

I pay my other taxes, and support what they go towards

laughable to think you solely object to every single thing the licence fee goes towards and are in full agreement of every single other form of tax spending. Certifiable lunatic.

I bet if your taxes (and all those thanking your posts who are presumably similar parasites) were broken down, and you could similarly hide behind a curtain like a cowardly & silent leech then you would also not pay for the likes of TDs going for what I guess you/many would think are unnecessary helicopter rides, business/first class flights, 300+euro bottles of wine, 5 star hotel suites, makeup expenses (the queen of drumcondra) etc. And would similarly just keep quiet about it.

Mr E

I think this thread has run its course.

TV in house - pay license (whether you use it for TV, consoles, or a foot stool - it doesn't matter).

No TV in house - don't pay license.

It's not complicated.