Door to door sellers, are they getting more frequent

Shiraz 4.99

This week alone I've had 2 different crowds selling Phonewatch, one lad selling Sky, one selling pre pay power or something I didn't understand.
That's not counting the charity chuggers that we keep getting calls from or the energy supplier changeover people.

A few years ago I got stung by one selling broadband so I swore never to sign up on the doorstep to anything ever again.
Any interaction that involves a 2nd breath is seen as an invitation so you have to be clinical when cutting them off.
Saying "I'll look into it & get back to you" is no good for the kid looking for his on the spot commission.

I especially love the callers who time the door bell ring to the moment you're putting the kids to bed.
Or the ones who use your kids use of the front door while going out playing as their opportunity to get their foot in your hallway, that has ended badly before.

Why is my life infected with these people, if I want to change a supplier I will research it online before making the decision.
Do these signs that people put up about junk mail & cold calling actually work ?.
I'd like hear a few other's experiences & if anyone who engages in door to door selling is brave enough to contribute then please do.

Lia_lia

Just don't answer the door

Kimbot

The sun is shining so they are out and about working on their tans

solomafioso

My reaction to them is to say "no thanks" as soon as they start talking and close the door. Yes, it's mean. Yes, they're human (sort of).

It just removes any awkwardness of them going through their spiel and you eventually saying 'no'. I'm saving their time really!

beardybrewer

Maybe it seems that way after all the political canvassing.

You could be a prick and get one of these signs: http://www.ebay.ie/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=no+cold+calls&_sop=15

I ordered two, but then I'm a big prick.

Riamfada

Don't be rude, just people trying to make a living.

anncoates

I just politely say no. Why give them grief unless they're overly pushy.

Nobody would honestly be doing door to door sales in the evenings if they're weren't hard up for work.

matrim

One of the advantages of living in an apartment is not getting any door to door sellers.

But when I lived in a house and used to get them the odd time, it was just a no thanks, I'm not interested and close the door.

The One Who Knocks

Lia_lia wrote: »

Just don't answer the door

You better answer,... or else.

Bio Mech

Open door. "Not interested thanks". Close door. Get on with life. Easy.

TireeTerror

newkie wrote: »

Maybe it seems that way after all the political canvassing.

You could be a prick and get one of these signs: http://www.ebay.ie/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=no+cold+calls&_sop=15

I ordered two, but then I'm a big prick.

I would totally ignore that sign, in fact if I seen it it tells me that you probably are unlikely to be aware of the latest offerings in the markets as most will have avoided you. That sign is like an open invitation, plus it lets me know the type of person you are likely to be and I will adjust my pitch accordingly and I guarantee you that I would switch you to whatever I was offering. People with signs like this are the easiest people to switch. Usually they are not the pricks they think they are, but in actual fact they have a good sense of humour and therefore its easier to get a bit of banter going and then when they like you, they switch anyway.

endacl

Lia_lia wrote: »

Just don't answer the door

How do you shut the door in their faces if you don't answer it?!?



The only circumstances under which you don't answer the door is if they've seen you, and know that you're ignoring them.

Micky Dolenz

I never ever do business at my door step. If I want a service, I will research it and contact them. I tell them this and that's it.

Although, One evening a young lady knocked on my door, her first line was "Don't worry, I'm not trying to sell you anything" She was right in fairness but she then proceeded to try and sign me up for a charity.

TireeTerror

anncoates wrote: »

Nobody would honestly be doing door to door sales in the evenings if they're weren't hard up for work.

So wrong. I would typically start knocking on doors, or training people to do it, around 6pm and by 8:30 I will usually have earned between €150-300.

To me that isn't hard up for work, its a professional career choice where I have more spare time to do what I want than any other person I know and I can take time off whenever I like. Its also a great way to meet people and have a great laugh. Many people have grey lives, with very little difference in their daily routine, slaving like ants for corporations and paying exorbitant amounts of tax to the state. When a ray of sunshine such as myself faces them at the door, it provides many with an unexpected boost and the vast majority of people are really inviting, offering cups of tea and biscuits etc etc, posters on boards are not typical of the experience I have here in Ireland at all.

Del2005

TireeTerror wrote: »

So wrong. I would typically start knocking on doors, or training people to do it, around 6pm and by 8:30 I will usually have earned between €150-300.

To me that isn't hard up for work, its a professional career choice where I have more spare time to do what I want than any other person I know and I can take time off whenever I like. Its also a great way to meet people and have a great laugh. Many people have grey lives, with very little difference in their daily routine, slaving like ants for corporations and paying exorbitant amounts of tax to the state. When a ray of sunshine such as myself faces them at the door, it provides many with an unexpected boost and the vast majority of people are really inviting, offering cups of tea and biscuits etc etc, posters on boards are not typical of the experience I have here in Ireland at all.

Door to door dealer?

TireeTerror

Del2005 wrote: »

Door to door dealer?

Dealer? I have been cold calling since 2001. Love it.

Donkey Oaty

TireeTerror wrote: »

When a ray of sunshine such as myself faces them at the door, it provides many with an unexpected boost

preston johnny

http://www.ebay.ie/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=no+cold+calls&_sop=15

I could go around selling these door to door

smellmepower

Just get the Airtricity lads every few months round here and a polite no thanks has them on their way,occasionally get the odd person selling candles or (presumably) stolen meat,make up etc.

anncoates

TireeTerror wrote: »

Many people have grey lives, with very little difference in their daily routine, slaving like ants for corporations and paying exorbitant amounts of tax to the state

Unlike you?

gandalf

Haven't had any now in nearly a year before that they were a plague, especially Airtricity. If I do answer the door I just tell them that I never ever transact business on the doorstep. I make decisions in my own time and after I have researched the options be it charities, electricity or anything else. If they know they aren't going to get a sale they head off to the next place fairly pronto as they seem to be 100% commission jobs.

Now Jehovah Witnesses are different they just creep me out!!!

TireeTerror

anncoates wrote: »

Unlike you?

I pay the absolute minimum I can get away with. A lot of things can be legally attributed as work related costs.

Sunny Dayz

Do people actually sign up to these things on their doorstep?? There must be people out there who do otherwise these people wouldn't be doing it.

I just couldn't imagine signing up to broadband or switching my electricity provider based on a guy on the door step. I have often asked them for a leaflet so that I can consider it at a more convenient time and so most of them don't even have one.

When my hubbie answers the door (he works in sales), he tends to grill them - I remember some girl, dunno what she was trying to sell but she hadn't a clue, not a notion, about anything to do with the product/service. Husband asked her why should he buy from her so if she didn't even know anything about it! And this poor girl was going to waste her whole evening doing this.

anncoates

Sunny Dayz wrote: »

Do people actually sign up to these things on their doorstep?

Lot of old people with dementia around these days.

TireeTerror

Sunny Dayz wrote: »

Do people actually sign up to these things on their doorstep?? There must be people out there who do otherwise these people wouldn't be doing it.

I just couldn't imagine signing up to broadband or switching my electricity provider based on a guy on the door step. I have often asked them for a leaflet so that I can consider it at a more convenient time and so most of them don't even have one.

The vast majority, in fact over 80% of all energy switches were done door to door across the country as a whole. Most people know they should switch every year, but life gets in the way, they're too busy, cant be bothered, find it all too confusing. So when a salesman comes to the door and offers to do it all for them and is able to explain the options in a cohesive and simplified way, they usually switch.

Shiraz 4.99

TireeTerror wrote: »

So wrong. I would typically start knocking on doors, or training people to do it, around 6pm and by 8:30 I will usually have earned between €150-300.

That's good money.
I used deliver 5,000 free newspapers years ago, you'd get €350 for all the newspapers than €150 extra for each separate flyer.
I'd dispose of (see recycle) 3,000 of the papers leaving me 500 a night to deliver over 4 nights.
Get them into the middle housing estates & nobody complains.
Most weeks you'd get €650 cash in hand on top of your 9 to 5 salary from your normal job.

seamus

Saw a post on reddit once that made me laugh where someone said, "I put this sign up so that cold callers wouldn't wake up the baby. Ten years now and not a single salesperson has knocked on my door"

Seriously though, we actually have a handwritten sign that says the baby's asleep, don't ring the doorbell. We usually only put it up when the baby is asleep, but we often forget, so we see salespeople wandering around the estate and then wonder why they didn't bother us

ColeTrain

Sunny Dayz wrote: »

When my hubbie answers the door (he works in sales), he tends to grill them - I remember some girl, dunno what she was trying to sell but she hadn't a clue, not a notion, about anything to do with the product/service. Husband asked her why should he buy from her so if she didn't even know anything about it! And this poor girl was going to waste her whole evening doing this.

Your 'hubbie' sounds like a sad bastard with nothing better for doing..

endacl

ColeTrain wrote: »

Your 'hubbie' sounds like a sad bastard with nothing better for doing..

Harsh?

gandalf

Sunny Dayz wrote: »

When my hubbie answers the door (he works in sales), he tends to grill them - I remember some girl, dunno what she was trying to sell but she hadn't a clue, not a notion, about anything to do with the product/service. Husband asked her why should he buy from her so if she didn't even know anything about it! And this poor girl was going to waste her whole evening doing this.

I work in sales as well and I certainly wouldn't do this to anyone doing door to door. The chances are the girl was not trained, recruited very recently (most of these companies have very high turnover of staff) and was on a 100% commission job. I don't see the benefit in wasting her time and your own time acting in this manner. Better to politely say your not interested and get on with your life.

Sunny Dayz

I undersand what people are saying but what is the point in her going door to door selling something she isn't informed on. My husband's perspective is that he is trained and knowledgable in his area and prepared for questions from customers - but this sales person was not which was unfortunate for her.

I certainly wouldn't buy something from a person who didn't know the details of the product or service they were selling!

Remmy

I don't get the point of being a cnut to people who don't warrant it. If they call I let them do their spiel, smile then say no thank you and close the door. It will take at the most 2 mins to do this.

B.A._Baracus

I would say they are. Like, there was always cold callers but there is definitely more now than say 3 years ago. Sky and Vodafone are terrible for it in my area.

Actually, I had the SAME person from Vodafone knock twice in one day.

Richard Hillman

Riamfada wrote: »

Don't be rude, just people trying to make a living.

Rude is calling to your door unannounced.

corks finest

TireeTerror wrote: »

So wrong. I would typically start knocking on doors, or training people to do it, around 6pm and by 8:30 I will usually have earned between €150-300.

To me that isn't hard up for work, its a professional career choice where I have more spare time to do what I want than any other person I know and I can take time off whenever I like. Its also a great way to meet people and have a great laugh. Many people have grey lives, with very little difference in their daily routine, slaving like ants for corporations and paying exorbitant amounts of tax to the state. When a ray of sunshine such as myself faces them at the door, it provides many with an unexpected boost and the vast majority of people are really inviting, offering cups of tea and biscuits etc etc, posters on boards are not typical of the experience I have here in Ireland at all.

hope to God yure not near carrigaline co cork,as id be one of those grey life ppl you mentioned,i normally deal with unwanted ppl at my door by a loud,firm ,no tnx,dont call again,,,,no money

B.A._Baracus

Riamfada wrote: »

Don't be rude, just people trying to make a living.

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Rude is calling to your door unannounced.

The way I see it is that if one of them knocks on your door. Then you have no obligation to open the door. You mightn't be in the mood, you know they are looking for money and it's your house.

However if someone knocks on your door. It does not give you an automatic right to be rude and insulting to them.

FunLover18

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

Although, One evening a young lady knocked on my door, her first line was "Don't worry, I'm not trying to sell you anything" She was right in fairness but she then proceeded to try and sign me up for a charity.

Classic "icebreaker". I was a door to door chugger and we're told to use ice breakers like this to lighten the mood. One lad thought it would be a laugh to pretend to be TV licence inspector. Didn't end well

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Actually, I had the SAME person from Vodafone knock twice in one day.

Been there, done that. Very embarrassing.

rubadub

No doorbell = no cunts bothering you, who are essentially stealing your free time.

Remmy wrote: »

I don't get the point of being a cnut to people who don't warrant it.

Many think they do warrant it, they believe its highly intrusive. I would like to see it made illegal as its a perfect alibi for burglars checking out houses. If people saw the neighbours dog shitting on their garden they do not politely ask it to leave, they shout at it to hope it at least understands it is doing something they find objectionable. The last think some people want to do is encourage this job/practise, and really want it to be clear that its an objectionable job, and not for them to be recommending friends to take it up too.

Some billionaire prick could create a job employing people to eat beans and go about town farting all day, carrying blackboards which they grate their nails on. These 'employees' would be annoying the hell out of all the people they encounter and having the similar laughable excuse "I'm just doing my job", yes you are and you are an utter bastard for taking up such employment, knowing fine well the irritation you cause.

Seve OB

newkie wrote: »

Maybe it seems that way after all the political canvassing.

You could be a prick and get one of these signs: http://www.ebay.ie/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=no+cold+calls&_sop=15

I ordered two, but then I'm a big prick.

I'm gonna buy a load of them things and sell them door to door

Wibbs

I already have a sign up in plain view. Sod off coldcallers or more polite words to that effect. I got a real pain in my arse with these spammers calling on a near daily basis. Vodafone, eircom phonewatch(an utter scam IMH), airtricity were about the worst and another scam. I let my dog answer the door to one repeat offender gobshíte who appeared to not understand the word no. This particular piece of work tried to scam my own mother who suffers from dementia, so not happy was I(before the bleeding hearts chime in there was a glass porch door between the gobshíte and angry hairy fanged death. This disappointed the hound no end). He didn't return, but others did, hence I put up a sign a couple of years ago.

The religious types stopped entirely and fair play. It seems they can read and are much less pushy than your airtricity types. However even with that the salesman muppets still call the odd time. Only last weekend I had one amadan knock on my door at 5 PM on a Sunday on a bank holiday weekend. WTF? This particular moron apparently couldn't read and also couldn't figure out why I didn't want to hear his BS spiel of a weekend. I was not polite in my response.

I neither need nor want to hear about your crappy service being pushed in my face or over the phone. If I want a service or goods I'll make my own mind up thanks so bog off please and thank you.

*EDIT*

TireeTerror wrote: »

I would totally ignore that sign, in fact if I seen it it tells me that you probably are unlikely to be aware of the latest offerings in the markets as most will have avoided you. That sign is like an open invitation, plus it lets me know the type of person you are likely to be and I will adjust my pitch accordingly and I guarantee you that I would switch you to whatever I was offering. People with signs like this are the easiest people to switch. Usually they are not the pricks they think they are, but in actual fact they have a good sense of humour and therefore its easier to get a bit of banter going and then when they like you, they switch anyway.

Please, please come to my door. When faced with the BS of the door to door salesman who has decided to ignore my clear instruction therefore marking them out as a thundering prick, I will respond with far more in kind and would be only too happy to demonstrate this to any who want to disturb me and mine in my own home after they've been asked not to.

Lucy and Harry

That is what guard dogs and shot guns are for.Chasing peasants off the lawn and what not

Anonamoose

I just close the door after politely saying no thank you.
No point wasting their time or mine.

Lucy and Harry

Just don't open the door.The last time I did a traveller guy with a broken nose and dirty finger nails was standing there trying to sell me knives he claimed were worth 200 euro.He started out saying how much will you give me for these they are worth 200.Even after I closed the door he was still shouting out well 5 euro.Give me something.

I would also advise old people not to open the door to strangers.

TireeTerror

Wibbs wrote: »

I already have a sign up in plain view. Sod off coldcallers or more polite words to that effect. I got a real pain in my arse with these spammers calling on a near daily basis. Vodafone, eircom phonewatch(an utter scam IMH), airtricity were about the worst and another scam. I let my dog answer the door to one repeat offender gobshíte who appeared to not understand the word no. This particular piece of work tried to scam my own mother who suffers from dementia, so not happy was I(before the bleeding hearts chime in there was a glass porch door between the gobshíte and angry hairy fanged death. This disappointed the hound no end). He didn't return, but others did, hence I put up a sign a couple of years ago.

The religious types stopped entirely and fair play. It seems they can read and are much less pushy than your airtricity types. However even with that the salesman muppets still call the odd time. Only last weekend I had one amadan knock on my door at 5 PM on a Sunday on a bank holiday weekend. WTF? This particular moron apparently couldn't read and also couldn't figure out why I didn't want to hear his BS spiel of a weekend. I was not polite in my response.

I neither need nor want to hear about your crappy service being pushed in my face or over the phone. If I want a service or goods I'll make my own mind up thanks so bog off please and thank you.

*EDIT*

Please, please come to my door. When faced with the BS of the door to door salesman who has decided to ignore my clear instruction therefore marking them out as a thundering prick, I will respond with far more in kind and would be only too happy to demonstrate this to any who want to disturb me and mine in my own home after they've been asked not to.

Yeah Ive met your type before, spouting all the hardman talk on the internet, the typical keyboard warrior. In reality usually the louder people shout online, the more timid they are in real life. Usually they are victims of a poor childhood, bullying at school etc etc, so ranting on forums online is a way for them to feel more manly.

The mere fact you think all of these companies are scamming you just says it all, closed mind and not able to see a better offer when its staring you in the face. If you feel so desperate as you sound, perhaps you should ask the companies concerned to add you to their "Do Not Call" register and your address will be removed from the handheld devices most modern salesforces use.

15 years knocking on doors and I can assure you I have met every single type of person and its extremely rare that anyone is overly aggressive, its not easy to be aggressive to someone who is charming and good looking and well presented and knows their product inside out. In fact several timers per day as I'm acquiring the customers bank details, they would say "You know I dont normally ever do this, switch at the door, I dont even know why I am now....." and I just smile and tell them "I get that all the time!".

Regardless of what anyone posts up here, most people love a bit of charm, especially in Ireland where its seriously lacking in general day to day exchanges. I have never met so many moody and depressed people serving me in shops than I have in Ireland, its quite frankly unbelievable considering employers have a huge choice given the unemployment levels at present. The other day a woman from Nigeria I think, served me at my local Aldi and she was bursting with enthusiasm, scanning items at 1000 miles per hour, chatting away, joking and laughing, it was a great thing to see. When I looked up from putting my pin number in the card machine, I could see all the people in the queue behind me smiling at the way she was behaving. Posting this reminds me that I promised myself that I would email Aldi to let them know how great a job she was doing.

Joe prim

I'm a bit of a mug for cold callers, in the last year or so I've signed up for the Mormons, Airtricity, Sky Broadband, The Russian Free Clothes Association and The Jehovah's Witnesses. I now have very good broadband, and cheap electricity, but my eight wives are eating me out of house and home, and if I ever need a blood transfusion, I'm fcuked.

Lucy and Harry

as I'm acquiring the customers bank details, they would say "You know I dont normally ever do this, switch at the door, I dont even know why I am now....." and I just smile and tell them "I get that all the time!".

What is your product that you ask people for bank details at their door?I do not care if you are sexy and attractive I would find it hard to hand over details like that lol

TireeTerror

Nearly every single product or service you sign up for requires payment by Direct Debit. I am not going to talk about what specific companies I represent, they do not like agents posting on social media and its usually written into contracts stating no posts online or the contract will be terminated.

Its rarely a big deal giving bank details, especially if the representative is wearing a full uniform, has ID which can be verified and is not a total scumbag. People are very good at reading people, so usually after chatting for a while people will learn to trust you and realise providing bank details is no big deal. If you think about it, its a much bigger risk using your credit or debit card at a handheld terminal in a shop, that card number would allow someone to buy things online etc, a sortcode and account number, or IBAN and BIC will not allow that as you don't use them for purchasing goods online.

corks finest

Wibbs wrote: »

I already have a sign up in plain view. Sod off coldcallers or more polite words to that effect. I got a real pain in my arse with these spammers calling on a near daily basis. Vodafone, eircom phonewatch(an utter scam IMH), airtricity were about the worst and another scam. I let my dog answer the door to one repeat offender gobshíte who appeared to not understand the word no. This particular piece of work tried to scam my own mother who suffers from dementia, so not happy was I(before the bleeding hearts chime in there was a glass porch door between the gobshíte and angry hairy fanged death. This disappointed the hound no end). He didn't return, but others did, hence I put up a sign a couple of years ago.

The religious types stopped entirely and fair play. It seems they can read and are much less pushy than your airtricity types. However even with that the salesman muppets still call the odd time. Only last weekend I had one amadan knock on my door at 5 PM on a Sunday on a bank holiday weekend. WTF? This particular moron apparently couldn't read and also couldn't figure out why I didn't want to hear his BS spiel of a weekend. I was not polite in my response.

I neither need nor want to hear about your crappy service being pushed in my face or over the phone. If I want a service or goods I'll make my own mind up thanks so bog off please and thank you.

*EDIT*

Please, please come to my door. When faced with the BS of the door to door salesman who has decided to ignore my clear instruction therefore marking them out as a thundering prick, I will respond with far more in kind and would be only too happy to demonstrate this to any who want to disturb me and mine in my own home after they've been asked not to.

agree 100 per cent with you

MyPeopleDrankTheSoup

@TireeTerror, do you find females way easier to convert than males? I knew a few lads who did this and they basically ignored males and concentrated on the housewives. No good porno-style stories from them though!

Wibbs

TireeTerror wrote: »

Yeah Ive met your type before, spouting all the hardman talk on the internet, the typical keyboard warrior. In reality usually the louder people shout online, the more timid they are in real life. Usually they are victims of a poor childhood, bullying at school etc etc, so ranting on forums online is a way for them to feel more manly.

Nope, sorry. No bullying, great childhood and all that. What I'd say to you here I'd say to your face no bother at all. Indeed if anything Boards.ie's rules of conduct render me nicer on here and made me a nicer human being. *bats eyelids and points at dimples*. Well nicer online anyway. In the real world I avoid conflict and generally don't respond to eejits, but if they're uninvited and pushy while feeding me rehearsed BS... Let's just say I have zero loyalty to social codes of staying quiet and will tell them to bugger off.

The mere fact you think all of these companies are scamming you just says it all, closed mind and not able to see a better offer when its staring you in the face.

Bollocks. Airtricity has a well known air of ballsology with their third part door to door reps and their parent company was fined millions for misleading people. Eircom phonewatch in reality is about as much use as tits on a bull. Too easily bypassed and even if it's not you're relying on the Guards to show up in time(after the delay in informing them). That's just for starters. There's no such thing as a free lunch folks. If something needs on the doorstep pressured selling that should tell you something of the quality involved.

If you feel so desperate as you sound, perhaps you should ask the companies concerned to add you to their "Do Not Call" register and your address will be removed from the handheld devices most modern salesforces use.

Already have. Only reduced the infestation on my time.

15 years knocking on doors and I can assure you I have met every single type of person and its extremely rare that anyone is overly aggressive, its not easy to be aggressive to someone who is charming and good looking and well presented and knows their product inside out.

Oh man I'm lolling here. :pac: The mind of the salesman. I suppose if one falls so easily for delusions it can be easy to force same on others. Actually I have found that to be the case. The best salesmen I know fall much more easily for others sales tactics. A close mate of mine makes mid six figures a year in high end sales and he'd be the first to admit a certain weakness in his choices when faced with other good sales types. You'd think it would give you more insight, but apparently not. He reckons it's the thrill of the sale itself, regardless of which side you're on, so a sales type gets a bigger buzz than a civilian. I'd agree with him.

In fact several timers per day as I'm acquiring the customers bank details, they would say "You know I dont normally ever do this, switch at the door, I dont even know why I am now....." and I just smile and tell them "I get that all the time!".

You sound like a religious nut at this stage. Or an Amway rep or some other pyramid schemer who bought the self help and sales and how to win friends and influence people books. Keep drinking that Kool aid. Whatever floats your boat and all that.

Its rarely a big deal giving bank details, especially if the representative is wearing a full uniform, has ID which can be verified and is not a total scumbag.

Oh man, this keeps getting better.

People are very good at reading people,

Actually people are generally appalling at reading other people. Hence they fall for BS on a near daily basis. Sales of the hard sell type rely on this. From snakeoil salesmen to vaccum salesmen to car dealers. That's before we get to advertising.

If you think about it, its a much bigger risk using your credit or debit card at a handheld terminal in a shop, that card number would allow someone to buy things online etc, a sortcode and account number, or IBAN and BIC will not allow that as you don't use them for purchasing goods online.

Or god forbid do your own research on utilities and services without singing up to a contract on the spur of the moment while giving some uninvited gimp you've just met your bank details.

Basically door to door hawkers of all hues are human spam. Irritating, uninvited and can be dodgy. I've a spam filter for my email so why not for my life?

mikeym

I wish I could build a big wall around my house so that no annoying people call.

I get children calling to my door every month looking for sponsorship money and their the same kids all the time.

I get charity collectors calling once every 3 weeks if I signed up to all of them that called id have no money to look after myself or pay any bills.

From time to time I get other sales people that call but they dont bug me because they dont come often.

Its come to a point were I hate answering the door to anyone that calls.