Possible Ryanair unoffical wild Cat strike :O

Locker10a

Found this today.
"Ryanair announced a £41 p/m increase for Supervisors and a £20.83 p/m increase for Juniors, although it did pain them to do so.Even though they are projected to make after tax profits of over €300m this year alone!

But as per usual with Ryanair nothing is as it seems:

1.This pay increase only applies to staff on Ryanair contracts,WFI,Crewlink etc ARE NOT getting a pay increase
2.This pay increase only covers staff who have been Ryanair employees for more then 1 year

Ryanairs Crew had this to say:

"After over 3 years of frozen pay and massive profits for Ryanair they announced a pay increase for about 20% of their Cabin Crew.They rest of us have been polity told to f**ck off!
Crew are delighted to hear that a small few will benifit from a pay increase. But ask management why have the crew who are most vulerable been left out yet again?
They pay increase only effects people who already have an annual salary and who have been in the company a long time.For the majority of crew who are contractors with WorkForce Int, Crewlink, Cavok etc (about 80% of current crew) they do not get a penny extra, they do not even have an annual wage! Last year during a year of unprecedented weather, strikes, volcano's 80% of cabin crew didnt earn a single penny and have been struggling on with life.Most Cabin Crew who are contractors must work sperate jobs just to pay rent and bills to survive basically.
But now the company has futher thrown aggrevation and dissapointment at the feet of the majority of their Cabin Crew. Not only has it now widened the wage gap, it has also added to tension between Ryanair employees and contractors.
The scenario can be compared with India where the rich live side by side with the poor!

Workforce Int, Crewlink Employees etc now have to work 65 hours to earn the same wages as Ryanair employees who havent worked a single day!
Ryanairs Crew call on management to correct this inbalance which has only added further to the animosity between 'the haves'(Ryanair Crew) and the 'have nots'(WFI,Crewlink Crew).
This huge wage gap can only lead to further hatred between co-workers and further undermine the concepts on 'good CRM'.

Should this wage gap continue.I call on all WorkForce Int,Crewlink Cabin Crew to cess and desit from all onboard operations in protest of the massive imbalance of wages within the company.

Imagine a normal days operation:
You are the No4, its the a busy STN-DUB. You are on a WFI,Crewlink contract. You are getting paid only for the hours your in the air.
The No1 is a Ryanair employee. Not only are they getting paid for being in the air they also get paid a basic of over £40 per day.
While the No1 who can not leave the galley is sitting down drinking tea. You are doing Smokeless,Hot Food Pre Orders, Magazines, Menu Cards, Gash,Service etc.
For the 4 sectors you that day doing all of that work, the Ryanair emloyee WILL EARN MORE FOR DOING 650% LESS WORK PER MONTH!

Is the fair?Should it be allowed to continue?No it shouldnt,as the old statement goes "All the same or none at all"..

SO THIS IS A FINAL WARNING FOR MANAGEMENT INCREASE OUR PAY ASWELL OR YOU WILL HAVE A WALK OUT!
STN,MAD,DUB,PIK. WE PROMISE YOU,WE WILL BRING THESE BASES TO THEIR KNEES,WE WILL BRING THE COMPANY TO ITS KNEES,YOU THINK BRITISH AIRWAYS HAVE IT BAD,YOU DONT KNOW THE HALF OF IT.SACK US WILL YOU?WHOS GOING TO OPERATE YOUR FLIGHTS?SACK US WILL YOU,WE WILL JUST GO TO EASYJET,WIZZAIR,FLYBE,EMIRATES,BRITISH AIRWAYS!

MICHEAL O'LEARY,EDDIE WILSON,YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED,YOU WILL HAVE A FIRE LIGHT UNDER YOU THAT NOT EVEN YOUR BRUTALITY COULD EXTINGUSH..........THE INEQUALITY END "

Not sure what to make of it! If you go on strike unoffically you can be fired legaly, but would Ryanair Fire nearly 80% of their crew? It takes two months to train new crew so it would mean alot of disuption if it were to go ahead!

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Source?

mikemac

Is this from pprune?

Saila

this would pave the way for o leary's secret plan
to have an airline run by monkeys, oh no wait

Locker10a

STN-London Stansted base
DUB- Dublin base
PIK-Glasgow base
MAD- Madrid base
Also cabin crew are ranked in Numbers! No.1 being the Senior/cabin Manager and 2, 3 and 4 decending in senority !

Locker10a

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Source?

Found it on CC.com

hoorsmelt

Fair play to them. This should drive that tight, penny-pinching, robber baron b@stard O'Leary up the wall.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Locker10a wrote: »

Found it on CC.com

Oh, I C. Well that asnwers that then!

FlutterinBantam

hoorsmelt wrote: »

Fair play to them. This should drive that tight, penny-pinching, robber baron b@stard O'Leary up the wall.

Shinner are we:cool:

zuroph

staff demand pay increases in worldwide recession. the mind boggles. STFU and be happy to still be working at the same pay you agreed to when you started.

Gyalist

I call on all WorkForce Int,Crewlink Cabin Crew to cess and desit from all onboard operations in protest of the massive imbalance of wages within the company.

Jaysus!

Our man in Havana

I didn't know that Ryanair had any wild cats working for them.

Locker10a

zuroph wrote: »

staff demand pay increases in worldwide recession. the mind boggles. STFU and be happy to still be working at the same pay you agreed to when you started.

Well considering ryanair are making millions profit the recession card cant be played here! Beside the argument is that the staff already on decent money are getting the payrise(which ryanair willing giveto the,they didnt demand it) while the ones on 900/1000 euro a month get nothing!

mikemac

zuroph wrote: »

staff demand pay increases in worldwide recession. the mind boggles. STFU and be happy to still be working at the same pay you agreed to when you started.

The company has returned to profitability in 2010, why wouldn't staff seek to share the rewards?

The Irish firm made pre-tax profits of €341m (£281m) for the year to 31 March, against a €180.5m loss a year earlier.

Ryanair's traffic increased 14% to 67 million passengers while fuel costs fell 29% to €894m thanks to lower oil prices.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/jun/01/ryanair-returns-to-profit

Worldwide recession but not everywhere is doing badly and many sectors are making record profits

I know companies are run for the shareholder but there is scope there for pay increases

Shareholders to get €500m dividend after new airplane orders are scrapped

Industrial action is not the way to go but they should lobby for a pay increase

Locker10a

Our man in Havana wrote: »

I didn't know that Ryanair had any wild cats working for them.

haha! a wild cat strike means an unoffical strike where no union or ballot is involved and no notice is given to the company staff just stop work or dont turn up someday!

zuroph

Locker10a wrote: »

Well considering ryanair are making millions profit the recession card cant be played here! Beside the argument is that the staff already on decent money are getting the payrise(which ryanair willing giveto the,they didnt demand it) while the ones on 900/1000 euro a month get nothing!

you mean the staff who gladly signed up to work for that wage? It doesnt matter what ryanair are making, the staff have a job in a time when many dont at a wage they accepted, when there is a fall off of jobs worldwide. Ryanair isnt a charity, they will get the work for the lowest they can, and the staff accepted the terms when they joined. If they dont like the money, they can quit and go elsewhere.

Jumpy

They are contractors. If they want more they should be asking it from their employers, not from Ryanair.

Locker10a

zuroph wrote: »

you mean the staff who gladly signed up to work for that wage? It doesnt matter what ryanair are making, the staff have a job in a time when many dont at a wage they accepted, when there is a fall off of jobs worldwide. Ryanair isnt a charity, they will get the work for the lowest they can, and the staff accepted the terms when they joined. If they dont like the money, they can quit and go elsewhere.

i know you make a good point! but its not fair to say Ahh sure just quit if it dont suite ya! I mean what sort of world would we live in if everyone just quite when something didnt work out they way they would of liked!
I know its not a charity! Also as cabin crew you dont sign up for a set wage! It depends on your flights/hours worked! So you cant jude what you will earn before you sign up you will only be given an estimate! Its not fair i know but thats what this whole thing is about!

weldoninhio

According to whoever wrote the passage in the OP there are plenty of jobs with Easyjet etc, so let them go. I doubt there are too many jobs available with other companies.

Why should they threaten Ryanair when they don't even work for them???

hoorsmelt

zuroph wrote: »

staff demand pay increases in worldwide recession. the mind boggles. STFU and be happy to still be working at the same pay you agreed to when you started.

By that logic children would still be stick up chimneys or 10 year olds working 15 hour days in the mills: 'STFU and be happy to have a job when you could be in the workhouse'.

If workers are entitled to a pay rise, and if their company is profitable as Ryanair is, then there is no justification for not giving a pay rise.

hoorsmelt

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Shinner are we:cool:

Marxist actually.

hoorsmelt

Jumpy wrote: »

They are contractors. If they want more they should be asking it from their employers, not from Ryanair.

Contractors is just a legal illusion used to get around giving these staff the pay and benefit entitlements employees are entitled to under labour laws. Ever wonder why people working in Aldi/Lidl are 'store assistants'?

Blobby George

Enough with the Ryanair bashing already. As a country we should be proud of them as a company.

hoorsmelt

Blobby George wrote: »

Enough with the Ryanair bashing already. As a country we should be proud of them as a company.

??? Why so? Because they undercut decent working conditions in the airline sector and their profitability is based on squeezing its workers and screwing customers for every last cent? If we were to be proud of any company it should be some company that pays decent wages, provides good conditions, and is involved in making a new product or providing services to a high quality standard. O'Leary is a glorified gombeen man.

KingKenny77

He'll tell the pilots to go and eff themselves

Blobby George

hoorsmelt wrote: »

??? Why so? Because they undercut decent working conditions in the airline sector and their profitability is based on squeezing its workers and screwing customers for every last cent? If we were to be proud of any company it should be some company that pays decent wages, provides good conditions, and is involved in making a new product or providing services to a high quality standard. O'Leary is a glorified gombeen man.

Talking out of your hoop there son. Socialist agenda much?

hoorsmelt

Blobby George wrote: »

Talking out of your hoop there son. Socialist agenda much?

Perhaps. You should try it. Refreshing alternative to the crap you're fed every day.

In what way is my post 'talking out of my hoop'? Every airline in Europe is being squeezed by Ryanair to adopt its corporate structure (look at Aer Lingus here) to the benefit of the boss and detriment of the worker. How is that something to be proud of?

Blobby George

hoorsmelt wrote: »

How is that something to be proud of?

The shareholders are very proud. I can assure you of that.

hoorsmelt

Blobby George wrote: »

The shareholders are very proud. I can assure you of that.

Because something is good for shareholders doesn't automatically make it good for the rest of us. I'm sure shareholders in oil companies are delighted by the rising fuel prices, not something too many others will reciprocate.

stateofflux

Blobby George wrote: »

Enough with the Ryanair bashing already. As a country we should be proud of them as a company.

i assume you are taking the piss...or does o leary have a smithers equivelant?

Blobby George

hoorsmelt wrote: »

Because something is good for shareholders doesn't automatically make it good for the rest of us. I'm sure shareholders in oil companies are delighted by the rising fuel prices, not something too many others will reciprocate.

With power comes great responsibility and even greater leverage.