People sneaking up the right lane on Dock Road

Fiddlesnap

Seriously? Who the f**k do they think they are like?

brianthebard

Galway drivers are terrible, worst in the country.

snubbleste

Fiddlesnap wrote: »

Seriously? Who the f**k do they think they are like?

They don't sneak, they think they are normal. You need a stress ball

kellsum

Can I ask that instead of just throwing that flippant statement about (Galway being the worst drivers), what actual facts have you to back up this statement?

fergiesfolly

Hate people like that.
As a consequence, I never let them change back. And if they try and nudge in, I block them.
I've got right of way, so they can sod off and wait for some sucker to let them in.
If I had my way they'd be stuck there all day.

TobyZiegler

Really annoys me too.

Try not to let people in if I can at all. But sometimes feel guilty - what if people genuinely dont know about the lane being closed or are going right up ahead and will be popping back out of your lane almost immediately anyway.

snubbleste

Galway drivers are terrible. You don't need a scientific survey to back that up, however you do need to have relatively good eyesight to observe

Fiddlesnap

snubbleste wrote: »

They don't sneak, they think they are normal. You need a stress ball

Thats the problem, they think they are normal yet they are allowed to operate machinery and procreate...

I have to say though, I actually like to see them sneak up there like they are the most important people on the planet and their time is more important than anyone elses. I like a good rant and moan and this gives me the perfect outlet.

I too act like the poster above. If I can at all help it I will block them out. Feckers!

(Taxis, Buses and Ambulances are exempt)

kellsum

I'm assuming you have drove all around Ireland to give this insightful opinion?

Fiddlesnap

TobyZiegler wrote: »

what if people genuinely dont know about the lane being closed or are going right up ahead and will be popping back out of your lane almost immediately anyway.

You can tell the ones that are sincere and then those that are just being ignorant. Those morons that zoom up the right lane then cut in in front of someone in front... :mad::mad:

Corporal punishment now!!

Columc

kellsum wrote: »

I'm assuming you have drove all around Ireland to give this insightful opinion?

Yup, galway is by far the worst from driving around Ireland. But in general the majority of irish drivers(that i have encountered) are quite bad, with the amount of roundabouts in the country im surprised not more people understand how to drive on them

On Topic:When the roa closed a few months/year ago I had to admit I myself was like that, kee forgetting about it now, but sure there are people who dont like traffic and chance their arm. the only thing you can do is not let them through. However it will always occur, unless a small barrier prior to turning right occurs giving it less distance to drive up on the right.

Fey!

If I'm coming from Victoria Place and traffic is heavy, I'll go up as far as the carpark to join (unless there's a space earlier) rather than stopping at the traffic island and blocking everything up behind me.

Those speeding up as far as the very end I generally won't let in.

Mollie Breathna

fergiesfolly wrote: »

Hate people like that.
As a consequence, I never let them change back. And if they try and nudge in, I block them.
I've got right of way, so they can sod off and wait for some sucker to let them in.
If I had my way they'd be stuck there all day.

+1

Starie1975

fergiesfolly wrote: »

Hate people like that.
As a consequence, I never let them change back. And if they try and nudge in, I block them.
I've got right of way, so they can sod off and wait for some sucker to let them in.
If I had my way they'd be stuck there all day.

+1

soundbyte

Same as Fey! i drive up a bit from the junction and try to merge then. However, i do quite enjoy blocking out the fcukers that try the sneaky cuts up near the new pedestrian lights.

I have to say, Galway/Mayo reg cars can be very bad drivers, especially on roundabouts. Obviously not them all though. Rarely see stupid driving in Dublin where I drive a lot, other than bad lane discipline on motorways. FWIW, I'm from Galway.

drum!

Most of those "bad Galway drivers" are probably blow-ins anyway.

Columc

Starie1975 wrote: »

+1

Mollie Breathna wrote: »

+1

Thats why the thank feature is in place, so people dont need to quote and add a +1 saying that they like the post. Just thank it!

I find that the people coming from the Vic who try and merge as fast as psosable were the two lanes are are ok, its more of the people going to the right top of the clsoed road to turn in. If im in the left lane and its after the car park, I wont allow cars to come into the lane

lookinbusy

What people should be more peed off about is tha fact that the second lane is blocked at all. If the developers got their skates on with that bloody arthouse cinema thing then people could take the appropriate lane for the route they're going. Can't remember what the story is with that cinema or why it's delayed, but they should either sh!t or get off the pot.

Eviledna

It's true that is really annoying, but it's also really annoying the way that the right road is now closed off because of construction that is stopped!

Take for example if you are coming from eyre sq, going down by the docs and need to get to cross st. The only option available is now to join the big long traffic jam just to get around the corner, then switch lanes right and drive around by kumars. You used to be able to turn earlier on the docks road in the right lane towards the wa cafe, turn left down by the pottery-class-place and then out, but now that's blocked. It's merging two busy routes unnecessarily, and it bakes my noodle.

drum!

That turn that was open only brings you a different way to the same destination and only provided a route to cut other drivers off on the dock road.

bobbytables

Fey! wrote: »

If I'm coming from Victoria Place and traffic is heavy, I'll go up as far as the carpark to join (unless there's a space earlier) rather than stopping at the traffic island and blocking everything up behind me.

Agree completely. That route has been restructured forcing it to become an even greater bottleneck than it was previously even though it's been a bus route for about 14 years and a popular exit from the city centre.

Yes people skipping the traffic jam queue is annoying in general, no argument there. Take rush hour every evening, you have the Eyre Square & Lough Atalia west-bound traffic expecting to merge within a stretch of road about 5m long. As you approach that pedestrian crossing from Eyre Square you can sense the tension. Then you get as far as the cross roads the other side of Wolftone bridge and everyone just speeds away.

One thing that always baffles me about Galway City is the lack of slip roads, over/under passes. IIRC in the early 90s it was all over the local papers how the Headford Rd was going to be transformed in to Galway's equivalent of Spaghetti junction. Yes...well....those traffic lights do look like they cost millions. Good job

DeadSkin

Check outside Dunnes on Briarhill, traffic coming down from the Clayton towards the roundabout - tools coming down 'creating' a righthand lane, halfway over the other side of the road.

That does my fuppin' head in.

Add to that, the idiots coming out of Dunnes turning right, just pull out, get halfway across blocking traffic in both directions.

Oh, one more, the idiots taking the entrance into Dunnes stay on the main road, then turn left - can ye not see the lane on the left with the big fuppin arrow pointing left, that's for you!!!

Tools!!!

tightropetom

Ok techically these people are not breaking the rules of the road, but it pisses me off that they have the cheek to do it when the rest of us are suffering away.

In the old days, I used to turn right at the newsagent's and then turn left to come back out onto the road. Less annoying/obvious, but they've changed the layout now!

What's the solution though?

As for Galway drivers being the worst? I don't think so - Clare drivers are the worst

Head The Wall

fergiesfolly wrote: »

Hate people like that.
As a consequence, I never let them change back. And if they try and nudge in, I block them.
I've got right of way, so they can sod off and wait for some sucker to let them in.
If I had my way they'd be stuck there all day.

The clowns that let these drivers in are just as bad. They are facilitating these other gobsh1tes

KevR

Yes, it can be annoying if everyone is queuing in one lane and one or two jump the queue by going up the other lane. BUT.......everybody should really use both lanes to queue and merge in turn!!

Link

Zip merging 'clears traffic jams'
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The art of 'zip merging' - using the outside lane when others are stationary in traffic - is the best way to clear motorway jams, a motoring expert has said.

Despite being a source of frustration for many drivers that find themselves undertaken by cars while stuck in traffic, it could prevent tailbacks from growing longer and blocking off more junctions, according to Peter Rodger, chief examiner at the Institute of Advanced Motorists.

Zip merging is most commonly used on dual carriageways that merge to a single lane of traffic, generally before a roundabout. Although many motorists frown upon drivers that drive ahead as far as possible in the overtaking lane, Mr Rodgers claims that doing so means the tailback is kept to a minimum.

"Driver etiquette means that 'zip merging' can be frowned upon by drivers in long queues of traffic, but if all available lanes are used, right up to the bottleneck, it is perfectly acceptable for vehicles from each lane to take it in turns to merge into the single lane," he said.

"This reduces the length of road the queue stretches along and prevents blocked junctions. If you are approaching a long queue of traffic in only one lane, you should stay in the lane you're in, even if it's empty, as long as you reduce your speed. Even if you have to merge further down, it is worth using all the space available to avoid unnecessarily long tailbacks."

the_syco

Link that shows Galway drivers are the worst in Ireland, with information by someone with great authority:

http://www.gov.ie/en/galway-drivers-worst-in-ireland.html

brianthebard

Good point Kev, everyone tries to merge into the one lane at the junction at the bottom of the car park/docks and it just creates backlogs on both roads. But it doesn't seem like drivers in this city/country understand zip merging, the same thing is expected on roundabouts but you'll see idiots stopping on roundabouts to let out traffic here all the time (have only ever seen this in galway but it might happen elsewhere). Its really dangerous and spectacularly dumb, but oh so common.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

On the bus home the last day, the gobshíte driver decides to do this, only instead of trying to sneak back in, he goes right (just before the scaffolding thingy) not realising a traffic island was made recently enough to stop people from doing this, and had to go all the way around again. And as you may or may not know, the Salthill bus is generally dominated by OAP's and they were not happy, plenty of audible "tuts" could be heard for about a minute!

snubbleste

That's hilarious

DiscoChats

lookinbusy wrote: »

What people should be more peed off about is tha fact that the second lane is blocked at all. If the developers got their skates on with that bloody arthouse cinema thing then people could take the appropriate lane for the route they're going. Can't remember what the story is with that cinema or why it's delayed, but they should either sh!t or get off the pot.

Sure when that lane re-opens it'll be worse!they'll drive all the way around to the lights outside thai garden & THEN cut in.

Dunjohn

Fiddlesnap wrote: »

I too act like the poster above. If I can at all help it I will block them out. Feckers!

(Taxis, Buses and Ambulances are exempt)

Out of curiosity, why taxis?

It's most well-known on the docks stretch, but does anybody do the school run into town from Knocknacarra? The Knocknacarra Road (from Joyces down to the Spinnaker) has a fairly long triangular road on the left into Brooklawn. It's only separated from the main road by a green area so you can see the chancers who nip in there and skip about a third of the length of road, and the worst thing is they're always let out immediately at the other end by people who assumed they live in there.

kippy

brianthebard wrote: »

Good point Kev, everyone tries to merge into the one lane at the junction at the bottom of the car park/docks and it just creates backlogs on both roads. But it doesn't seem like drivers in this city/country understand zip merging, the same thing is expected on roundabouts but you'll see idiots stopping on roundabouts to let out traffic here all the time (have only ever seen this in galway but it might happen elsewhere). Its really dangerous and spectacularly dumb, but oh so common.

Re the roundabout thing.....I've only ever seen this when the roundabout is "full" - ie on exit is backed up onto the roundabout and a number of cars are "stopped" on the roundabout, instead of jamming up the whole thing they leave a gap for cars entering the roundabout but not going out the same exit to go through.
Ive never seen anyone stop on a roundabout without due reason.

brianthebard

kippy wrote: »

Re the roundabout thing.....I've only ever seen this when the roundabout is "full" - ie on exit is backed up onto the roundabout and a number of cars are "stopped" on the roundabout, instead of jamming up the whole thing they leave a gap for cars entering the roundabout but not going out the same exit to go through.
Ive never seen anyone stop on a roundabout without due reason.

I wish that was the case it could be somewhat excusable but it happens all the time on the roundabout behind the hospital, people stopping to let cars out etc when you should not be stopping. They shouldn't be stopping at all thats what makes the roundabout full in the first place.

Fey!

That roundabout behind the hospital is brutal, even more so since they started digging the place up.

However, what is the point in blocking an entrance onto the roundabout when you can't proceed because your exit is blocked and there isn't room for your car beyond the entrance?

For instance, in the muck drawing below, car 1 has left the roundabout at exit but is stuck by traffic, 2 wants to exit a C, but can't proceed. Car 3 has entered the roundabout, but can't exit due to 2. 5 has entered, but 3 has him blocked. But if he hadn't entered the roundabout he knows from experience that car 7 will enter and cut in in front of him behind 3.

Should he pull up to the bumper of 3 and block car 4, or should he sit where he is on the diagram and let 4 proceed unhindered?



That looks fierce confusing, doesn't it???

Das Kitty

I've been on that roundabout when traffic was flowing well behind someone who stopped to let people out from the hospital. Exit was clear ahead and this fool slams on the breaks to let a few cars out.

kippy

brianthebard wrote: »

I wish that was the case it could be somewhat excusable but it happens all the time on the roundabout behind the hospital, people stopping to let cars out etc when you should not be stopping. They shouldn't be stopping at all thats what makes the roundabout full in the first place.

I use that one about twce a day, 4 days a week on average but never seen it. (Thats not to say that it doesnt happen)As I said about the only time I have seen people stop on the roundabout is when the exit is blocked and the let others who arent going to that exit out.
Roundabouts get blocked when the exits get blocked. Not much any driver can do about that, but if those that were on the roundabout taking that exit at the time did not allow those not using that exit onto the roundabout (Ie they didnt leave a gap to the car in front) the whole roundabout would grind to a halt.

Amazing the amount of people who state they wouldn't/don't let them in.

That view would represent about 1% of the road users as I never see them waiting longer then one car before someone lets them in.

I always say ''Yes we'll see if they can squeeze into this gap in front of me'' but then within 2secs of stopping the 1st or 2nd car has already let them in and I've never once had the chance to block someone trying it.

They should put bollards down the middle of the road from before the car park on, but that's not going to happen, they wasted all of them on a street round the corner from me here in Claddagh which has ZERO use for them :mad:

galah

Fey! wrote: »

That roundabout behind the hospital is brutal, even more so since they started digging the place up.

However, what is the point in blocking an entrance onto the roundabout when you can't proceed because your exit is blocked and there isn't room for your car beyond the entrance?

For instance, in the muck drawing below, car 1 has left the roundabout at exit but is stuck by traffic, 2 wants to exit a C, but can't proceed. Car 3 has entered the roundabout, but can't exit due to 2. 5 has entered, but 3 has him blocked. But if he hadn't entered the roundabout he knows from experience that car 7 will enter and cut in in front of him behind 3.

Should he pull up to the bumper of 3 and block car 4, or should he sit where he is on the diagram and let 4 proceed unhindered?

That looks fierce confusing, doesn't it???

car 7 is in the wrong lane to be cutting in behind 3. (not that that changes a thing, but still). They've actually put 'get in lane' signs up along the approach to the roundabout from the bridge - I think it has gotten better, but you still get the odd idiot who seemingly can't read.

On that topic - I have on occasion waited where car 6 is - waiting for at least car 5 to clear before entering, as not to clog up the roundabout for people coming from the Westport direction exiting towards Newcastle - with the result of being undercut AND beeped at. People are idiots.

Caliden

kellsum wrote: »

Can I ask that instead of just throwing that flippant statement about (Galway being the worst drivers), what actual facts have you to back up this statement?

Drive in any other county in Ireland, there's your proof.

Actually, just drive around Dublin. Drove there recently and the volume of activity going on around you while you're driving is incredible.
If Galway was like that there would be an insane amount of accidents, guarenteed.

DeadSkin wrote: »

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Add to that, the idiots coming out of Dunnes turning right, just pull out, get halfway across blocking traffic in both directions.

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Have you ever tried turning right out of Dunnes Briarhill during busy hours?
It's nigh on impossible as most people aren't courteous enough to let you out so pulling accross like that is the only way really.

I have to do it coming out of Mullanmore housing estate along the Tuam road as well as traffic in either direction won't give you an inch.

DeadSkin

Caliden wrote: »

Have you ever tried turning right out of Dunnes Briarhill during busy hours?
It's nigh on impossible as most people aren't courteous enough to let you out so pulling accross like that is the only way really.

I have to do it coming out of Mullanmore housing estate along the Tuam road as well as traffic in either direction won't give you an inch.

So, it's courteous to pull out half way and block traffic heading up that road?
Drivers like you are the problem.

Come out of Dunnes, turn left, turn right into Clayton and come back down - prob be quicker!!

Dunjohn

They're never going to put bollards along the dock road because, annoying or otherwise, it's not causing any kind of hazard.

On that diagram, if C looks blocked from a decent distance I'll try to keep going on to D and across behind Dunnes. It's easy to get back onto the road at the lights beyond Westside sports ground. I'd say 80% of the cars are going that far anyway.

UPCurley

In relation to the dock road.
I noticed this too and it's maddening about the cars on the right hand land flying ahead when you are gridlocked in traffic on the left hand lane.
They always fly ahead and they are always let in at the lights and only have to wait for about two cars to do so.
However being the other side, I have recently come up from the victoria and if there is a lot of traffic on the left as soon as I pass the pedestrian crossing, I indicate left to get into correct lane. A lot of drivers won't let you in and then if I have drivers behind me, I give up and then proceed to drive slowly while indicating left to try to appease them also. I usually manage to get halfway up slowly while indicating and driving close to the left before some obliging driver lets me in. Occasionally, I actually have to nudge into the left lane assertively (semi aggressively)before someone lets me in. and this is just to sit in traffic while the dcikheads fly down to the lights.
So, not all are bad when they end up at the lights, they might not be confident enough to make the move or are out of towners.

samdeman

why does this bother people so much? i always do it for the simple reason i want to get to my destination quicker. its not illegal and its my choice. if you want to sit in a traffic jam for an extra few minutes thats your choice. you should be more worried about drivers who throw fag butts out the passenger window. why cant they just throw them out the driver side window (like i do)onto the road where they will disappear forever, and not on the footpath where they will be until some council workers get around to cleaning them

Rylan

May get slated for saying this but I do it all the time. Why? Because it gets me there quicker. And I think that if everyone had the same attitude traffic would move a lot quicker in Galway.

Fey!

Rylan wrote: »

May get slated for saying this but I do it all the time. Why? Because it gets me there quicker. And I think that if everyone had the same attitude traffic would move a lot quicker in Galway.

If everyone had that attitude the city would grind to a halt, as everyone would be trying to outrun and cut off everyone else.

Fuinseog

kellsum wrote: »

Can I ask that instead of just throwing that flippant statement about (Galway being the worst drivers), what actual facts have you to back up this statement?

I find motorists in Galway very intolerant of cyclists, even those cyclists who are obeying the rules of the road. the absence of real cycle lanes does not help.

the roundabouts are a nightmare. while outsiders are trying to figure out which lane they need to get into horn are honking.

po0k

Columc wrote: »

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samdeman

Rylan wrote: »

May get slated for saying this but I do it all the time. Why? Because it gets me there quicker. And I think that if everyone had the same attitude traffic would move a lot quicker in Galway.

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macl

Traffic at the docks in Galway really sums up how badly planned and run Galway can be (local government). This particular issue should be a topic for any candidates running for election. Its a f'in disgrace and really makes my blood boil.


1 - How private industry can hold up Galway city traffic for months on end is beyond me. Developers should not be allowed to obstruct traffic in this way. This costs time and money for thousands of Galway people daily . With such planning applications going forward there should be heavy penalties in the event of unnecessary traffic obstruction.

2 - The city council couldn't be bothered trying to resolve this issue at all or so it appears.

My suggestion (bar getting rid of the traffic restriction at the corner) would be to:


- Undo the blocking of the road around by back of the house hotel (yes this means hiring a guy with a kango for a day and some minor resurfacing where the footpath they laid was.

- Implement temp water bollards in the centre of the road beside the museum

This means that people in the left hand lane only will be able to go on through Salthill OR they can swing around near Jurys if they need to double back.

Right lane traffic is destined for merchants road or around by flood street and into the city via cross street etc

And to make sure people get into the know - water bollards in centre of road from No.8 bar down towards junction to hang right.

I recon this solution would ease traffic somewhat and would be very quick/cheap to implement.

When traveling from Oranmore to Salthill I used to often go through the centre of town - it was always quicker than sticking it out in the left hand lane.

po0k

po0k wrote: »

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bloo

Is it not just annoying to those drivers sat in the traffic on the left because they didnt think of using the right hand lane?

It makes sense to use both lanes and merge at the end where the road works are, as per the diagram eariler. Surely this will ease up the traffic going back up to eyre square etc. I dont see why drivers coming from eyre square should stop at the pedestrain crossing and wait to be let in there (which doesnt always happen) rather than be let in further down the road. At what point along the dock road is correct? just after the lights? between the lights and the entrance to the car park? If there were road markings indicating where it might be helpful.

Plus the argument of "im not letting him in, he didnt wait in line as long as me" doesnt indicate a very sensible driver attitude.