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Things You Don't Think Will Be Answered...

  • 19-03-2010 4:25pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,807 ✭✭✭


    - Having a constant and it's ultimate need
    - Why Walt was important/had powers
    - Whispers at night in the jungle
    - Kate's black horse sighting
    - The pregnancy on the island situation
    - Why did Mikhail keep coming back from the dead?!

    Anything I'm missing? Really glad these issues are being swept under the rug for these riveting flash-sideways: Sawyer as a cop, get out - that's outrageous!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 219 ✭✭purcela


    I don't think the reason for the numbers will be explained fully. I know they relate to some of the candidates but I doubt it will be explained why those numbers were engraved on the hatch, or were printed on the side of the vaccination for the infection in season 1, etc.

    I can't see Alvar Hanso or the DeGroots being brought back up.

    Kelvin Inman (who met Sayid in his flashbacks and was in the hatch with Desmond) will be ignored.

    The writers have put far too much into this show to be able to explain everything fully. They tried to be too clever/mysterious and made a mess of it.

    Pity really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭me-skywalker


    Havign a constant was already explained... that you mind cant handle or comprehend the alt realities or alt timelines it is visiting so needs to keep a constant to keep it in check.

    Im not bothered about the horse, its like sawyers boar or Dave to Hurley.

    The whispers yea really wanna know about that and Walt!

    Im guessing the pregnancy thing is because only the people that Jacobs choose's to liveo n the Island shall live on the Island.... or maybe its a caveat between Jacob and MIB that Jacob can bring people but MIB insisted that only them and they cannot reproduce as they would destroy the island.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,735 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    - Having a constant and it's ultimate need Something important to you which could exist in both timelines helps bring back the memories of what happened in between, thereby stopping the timeflashes. As good an explanation we'll probably get I'm afraid
    - Why Walt was important/had powers
    - Whispers at night in the jungle
    - Kate's black horse sighting Same as the polar bears and the cow, just an animal that Dharma had been experimenting on which was released
    - The pregnancy on the island situation The healing power of the island means that once the foetus gets to a certain stage, the body treats it as an invader/virus. The healing power tries to heal the mother, but kills the child and the mother at the same time. Probably didn't start happening until after the Incident at the swan station
    - Why did Mikhail keep coming back from the dead?! Combination of the healing power of the island and the fact that nothing actually 'killed' him. Sonic fence wasn't set at a high enough level to kill. Harpoon through the chest (I think thats what happened to him) may not have been fatal. Besides, if the island wanted Charlie to die, it had to keep Mikhail alive to kill him

    Anything I'm missing? Really glad these issues are being swept under the rug for these riveting flash-sideways: Sawyer as a cop, get out - that's outrageous!

    I agree about Walt, I don't think we'll ever really get a good answer to that.

    Why did Smokey try to kill Locke at the end of season 1, when it was about to drag him down that hole?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,640 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    - The Hurley bird which seemed to call out his name (I really want this answered though!)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    - Why Walt was important/had powers
    - Whispers at night in the jungle
    - Kate's black horse sighting
    - The pregnancy on the island situation
    I'm pretty certain all those things will be answered.

    As for Mikhail, he kept coming back to life because he was tough motherf*cker.

    Things I don't think will be answered:

    - Why Ben lied about pushing the button.
    - Why Ben decided to wipe out Dharma
    - How Jacob and the Others come and go from the island so easily after the sub had been destroyed.
    - The pillar of smoke that Rousseau saw in 1988.
    - How Desmond ended up in prison.
    - Why Ben went out to the survivors camp as "Henry-Gale"
    - Annie
    - All those lists from earlier seasons


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,807 ✭✭✭speedboatchase


    I'm pretty certain all those things will be answered.

    As for Mikhail, he kept coming back to life because he was tough motherf*cker.

    Things I don't think will be answered:

    - Why Ben lied about pushing the button.
    - Why Ben decided to wipe out Dharma
    - How Jacob and the Others come and go from the island so easily after the sub had been destroyed.
    - The pillar of smoke that Rousseau saw in 1988.
    - How Desmond ended up in prison.
    - Why Ben went out to the survivors camp as "Henry-Gale"
    - Annie
    - All those lists from earlier seasons

    Good call, thought of a few others just there. Why did they steal Rousseau's baby to raise as Ben's daughter for example? However a really big q I need answered - why did Desmond say Charlie had to die for his vision of Claire to evacuated via helicopter would have to happen? She wasn't on that helicopter when they left

    Also:

    The supply drop?
    What lies in the shadow of the statue?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 408 ✭✭blue_steel


    How turning the wheel moved the island through time and space.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Why, after learning that ben is a complsive liar and will say anything to get his own way, did the losties continue to fall for his lies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,534 ✭✭✭Dman001


    Im really hoping to Christian this season. By the looks of things we aren't going to be seeing him this season, and we will have to assume he was MIB before Locke? I was hoping for a different explaination though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭me-skywalker


    blue_steel wrote: »
    How turning the wheel moved the island through time and space.

    because there was a temporal distortion rift at this precise location....





    aah im jsut ribbing with ya :P


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    i dont think they will answer why walt was so key to the others in season 2 and im really hoping they answer who the 2 dead bodies were in the cave in season 1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    - The numbers (they wont be giving a detailed explaination of them)
    - Walt's importance (The changed this because the actor grew up and became a continuity error!)
    - Why MiB was taking the form of Walt
    - Hurley Bird
    - The Whispers (All we'll ever know is that they can be heard when MiB is near)
    - Why Libby was in the same Mental Institute as Hurley
    - How did the US Army find the Island
    -- Did they know about the island's potential or just there to test bombs
    - Why did the Temple have a Dharma Logo
    - Why did Chang use different aliases in the orientation videos
    - Why/How was there Periodic Resupply Drops continuing after the Purge
    -- Why didnt Hanso send people to reclaim the other stations after the Purge

    All these are largely irrelevant to the current story but I wish they were explained at a time when they were relevant questions to the characters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Jay Ru


    there will be some mysteries that can't be answered simply because this is no the end of Lost. In its current format Lost is in its final series but u can bet ur bottom dollar that its not the last time it will be seen on tv or maybe even movie screens.

    these are the things i don't think will be explained

    - how MIB changes into Smokie
    - Walt's importance and why birds died around him
    - the number (a full explaination)
    - why Eckos brother landed on the island
    - why Smokie killed Ecko
    - how did the mirror in the light house worked
    - the origins of the black ash?
    - are MIB & Jacob the first, or are the replacements for those who gone before then?
    - how long has the island had inhabitants
    - what happened to the statue


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,716 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    Dempsey wrote: »
    - Hurley Bird

    Catches the whorm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭uncleoswald


    Remember when Sawyer & Co were jumping through time and they stole a raft and were then shot at by people unknown in another raft? Are we now meant to presume it was Illana's group? Not a very good way to protect a candidate if it was her.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Remember when Sawyer & Co were jumping through time and they stole a raft and were then shot at by people unknown in another raft? Are we now meant to presume it was Illana's group? Not a very good way to protect a candidate if it was her.
    I think that's yet to happen. I reckon it will turn out to be Widmore's guys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,735 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I think that's yet to happen. I reckon it will turn out to be Widmore's guys.

    I actually reckon it'll be Ilana, Jack etc. They might not realise who they're shooting at until they disappear, then Miles realises that it was them


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Didn't Juliet shoot one of them though?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,735 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Didn't Juliet shoot one of them though?

    Yeah, just checked Lostpedia. You're right, Juliet hit one. Doesn't mean she killed one though.

    I just thought it would have been cool if it was the Losties shooting at the Losties because of the time flashes.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Yeah, it would be cool if it was Sawyer on the other raft. And he was firing warning shots because he was trying to get them to stop - in order to save Juliet, etc. Might be kinda funny if was him she shot. lol.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,735 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Yeah, it would be cool if it was Sawyer on the other raft. And he was firing warning shots because he was trying to get them to stop - in order to save Juliet, etc. Might be kinda funny if was him she shot. lol.

    That would actually be brilliant :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭uncleoswald


    I think that's yet to happen. I reckon it will turn out to be Widmore's guys.

    Thought of this as soon as I wrote it and I hope this is the case. Its recent enough for them to have planned out so it would be weird if they didn't make more of it. But I think it was one of the rafts Illans group took from Hydra island, I imagine Widmore's group have their own.

    And they'd still have to explain why whoever it was was shooting at them, I don't think any of the groups on the island seem like they would recklessly shoot at anyone without reason.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭✭Skerries


    are there any of the other original flight survivors still alive?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,735 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Skerries wrote: »
    are there any of the other original flight survivors still alive?

    Apart from Bernard and Rose (and Walt off island), doesn't look like it. Seems they were all killed off over the last 2 seasons. No real point bringing any of them back anyway, seeing as how we don't know any of their names. Frogurt was killed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 219 ✭✭purcela


    Anyone remember that Sayid centric episode called The Economist, where we see that Sayid in his flashforward is an assassin working for Ben. I wonder will we ever find out who The Economist is, or are we meant to assume it is Widmore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,735 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I'd say its pretty definite that it was Widmore or one of Widmore's men. It wasn't until a few episodes later that we find out that Widmore and Ben are enemies.

    Actually, in a later episode, Ben tells Sayid that he's killed everyone on the list (people responsible for Nadia's death), so I guess The Economist was one of Widmore's men and not Widmore himself, since Ben seemingly can't kill Widmore


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    purcela wrote: »
    Anyone remember that Sayid centric episode called The Economist, where we see that Sayid in his flashforward is an assassin working for Ben. I wonder will we ever find out who The Economist is, or are we meant to assume it is Widmore.

    Did we ever find out why Sayid was working for Ben to begin with?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,735 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    syklops wrote: »
    Did we ever find out why Sayid was working for Ben to begin with?

    Yeah. Ben gave Sayid information about who was driving the car that killed Nadia. After Sayid killed the guy, Ben told him that there were others resposible for her death. So Sayid joined Ben in order to kill them all. It is possible however that Ben falsified the information to manipulate Sayid into working for him

    I believe this was all shown in Ben's Season 4 episode "The shape of things to come"

    And now that I remember, before Sayid killed the guy, Ben told him he wanted him to deliver a message to Widmore for him. Then Sayid killed him and Ben said something along the lines of "That'll do it" or something. So The Economist did have some connection to Widmore


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    Do we know who the people were that Sayid killed and why Ben wanted them dead?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Yeah. Ben gave Sayid information about who was driving the car that killed Nadia. After Sayid killed the guy, Ben told him that there were others resposible for her death. So Sayid joined Ben in order to kill them all. It is possible however that Ben falsified the information to manipulate Sayid into working for him

    I believe this was all shown in Ben's Season 4 episode "The shape of things to come"

    And now that I remember, before Sayid killed the guy, Ben told him he wanted him to deliver a message to Widmore for him. Then Sayid killed him and Ben said something along the lines of "That'll do it" or something. So The Economist did have some connection to Widmore

    Which begs the question, one which I have already asked, why do people continue to believe what Ben says?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭Twin-go


    I'd say its pretty definite that it was Widmore or one of Widmore's men. It wasn't until a few episodes later that we find out that Widmore and Ben are enemies.

    Actually, in a later episode, Ben tells Sayid that he's killed everyone on the list (people responsible for Nadia's death), so I guess The Economist was one of Widmore's men and not Widmore himself, since Ben seemingly can't kill Widmore

    Same as MiB couldn't kill Jacob. I wonder if there is a connection?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,735 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Twin-go wrote: »
    Same as MiB couldn't kill Jacob. I wonder if there is a connection?

    Yeah. I dunno. It seems like there were some rules which had to be followed between them, although Keamy broke one of them on behalf of Widmore by killing Alex. So while I think that Ben and Widmore have rules, Jacob and MIB seem to have something more, almost a law or something. MIB physically couldn't kill Jacob, even though he badly wanted to


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,735 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Do we know who the people were that Sayid killed and why Ben wanted them dead?

    They just seemed to be associates of Widmore. I doubt we'll get anything further than that though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,763 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Why the numbers of the candidates just happened to come up as lottery nbumbes the same day one of the candidates actually played those numebrs and won the lottery.

    not really unexplained, I know, but a little too much coincidence for my liking!

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,735 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    Why the numbers of the candidates just happened to come up as lottery nbumbes the same day one of the candidates actually played those numebrs and won the lottery.

    not really unexplained, I know, but a little too much coincidence for my liking!

    For some reason the numbers were being broadcast from the island. Someone heard it and the numbers started bringing him bad luck. Then he told the numbers to his friend, who was crazy and started repeating them to himself. He was in the same mental hospital as Hurley, and Hurley then used those numbers to win the lottery.

    Then again, it's not really coincidence, more destiny. If Hurley hadn't used those numbers to win the lottery, he wouldn't have been in Australia to find out where the numbers came from and so wouldn't have been on Oceanic 815. And they were all destined to be on the island.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭Twin-go


    Some things I would like to see answered - But some may not be because they are not relative to the current story.

    1. Why the Black pearl is shipwrecked in the middle of the island?
    2. Who are the "Adam & Eve" remains of?
    3. Is Farraday alive in the flash sideways?
    4. Who is really Good/Evil? I don't think this is going to be a strieght forward black and white answer? Maybe they are both "Grey"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    Twin-go wrote: »
    Some things I would like to see answered - But some may not be because they are not relative to the current story.

    1. Why the Black pearl is shipwrecked in the middle of the island?

    No-one has told Jack Charlton yet. Once they do, they'll get him on the team bus and he'll be right as rain for the Mexico match.


    If you meant the black rock, it could be something as simple as a storm or a tsunami.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    What won't be answered that I would really love to be answered, but isn't really important is why Faraday was crying when he saw the news report on the tv.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,735 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Twin-go wrote: »
    Some things I would like to see answered - But some may not be because they are not relative to the current story.

    1. Why the Black pearl is shipwrecked in the middle of the island?
    2. Who are the "Adam & Eve" remains of?
    3. Is Farraday alive in the flash sideways?
    4. Who is really Good/Evil? I don't think this is going to be a strieght forward black and white answer? Maybe they are both "Grey"

    I know one of those questions will be answered, and I think another one will be. I won't say how I know though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭Psychedelic


    There's a good chance the question about the Black Rock will be answered in the next episode.

    Adam & Eve might be answered in the next episode too, but I'd say more than likely that will be kept till the final episode.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    If you meant the black rock, it could be something as simple as a storm or a tsunami.
    I think this might be the first time that I've been right about anything on this show.

    Come and bask in the warm glow of my smugness.

    :smug:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,807 ✭✭✭speedboatchase


    I think this might be the first time that I've been right about anything on this show.

    Come and bask in the warm glow of my smugness.

    :smug:

    SPOILER ALERT :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    I think this might be the first time that I've been right about anything on this show.

    Come and bask in the warm glow of my smugness.

    :smug:

    Yes, well done captain obvious! :pac:

    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    :cool:
    Dempsey wrote: »
    Yes, well done captain obvious! :pac:

    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,735 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    The Tempest. When Daniel and Charlotte went there to stop it, what really happened? Had Ben (or someone acting on behalf of Ben) set it to go off? Or as part of their plan to neutralise it, did Daniel and Charlotte have to set it off?

    So did Ben really send Harper to tell Juliet she had to kill Daniel and Charlotte? Because if she succeeded, then surely everyone on the island would have died. I mean, at the time, Ben was locked up wasn't he? So he wouldn't have had time to get a gas mask. Nor get one for Alex.

    That whole episode confused me to be honest


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    The Tempest. When Daniel and Charlotte went there to stop it, what really happened? Had Ben (or someone acting on behalf of Ben) set it to go off? Or as part of their plan to neutralise it, did Daniel and Charlotte have to set it off?
    That's how I remember it anyway.
    So did Ben really send Harper to tell Juliet she had to kill Daniel and Charlotte? Because if she succeeded, then surely everyone on the island would have died. I mean, at the time, Ben was locked up wasn't he? So he wouldn't have had time to get a gas mask. Nor get one for Alex.
    Harper remains a mystery. She literally vanished in front of Juliet and Jack's eyes, never to be seen again. Maybe the real Harper was dead and the person who appeared to Juliet was actually MIB, who probably wouldn't have objected to some method of killing everyone on the island. That would mean Ben had nothing to do with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,735 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Harper remains a mystery. She literally vanished in front of Juliet and Jack's eyes, never to be seen again. Maybe the real Harper was dead and the person who appeared to Juliet was actually MIB, who probably wouldn't have objected to some method of killing everyone on the island. That would mean Ben had nothing to do with it.

    Thats what put it into my mind, Harper disappearing from right in front of them, (Latest US Episode Spoilers)
    same way MIB did. Which made me think back to other people who just disappeared, like Walt and Christian, then I remembered Harper and remembered how in the season before that, Smokey 'scanned' Juliet. Which may be how it knew to take the form of Harper to make Juliet kill Daniel and Charlotte


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,807 ✭✭✭speedboatchase


    How did Richard get off the island to recruit Juliette - Dharma submarine? Does he know about the donkey wheel?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    How did Richard get off the island to recruit Juliette - Dharma submarine?
    Yep. It seems they also later made use of Desmond's boat.
    Does he know about the donkey wheel?
    I assume so. Ben knew about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,735 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    How did Richard get off the island to recruit Juliette - Dharma submarine? Does he know about the donkey wheel?

    I'd say the sub. He probably knows about the donkey wheel, but Ethan was with him off the island, and they took the sub back, so the sub had to have left the island in the first place. No point turning the wheel just as a mode of transport. Plus, there's no telling what year you'll arrive in Tunisia. When Ben turned the wheel it was some time in January 2005, but I think when he landed in Tunisia it was September or something. Whereas when Locke turned the wheel, also around January 2005, he ended up in 2007


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