Tought the ps3 was the hotest ticket around?

johnplayerblue

How comes i was able to call my local xtra vision store today and pre book a ps3 for next friday. Console, 2 games and an extra control pad for €750. Is the demand not what was expected or whats the crack. I ask the guy there and he said that there was quiet a few bookings left. I don't reall want the console as such and it will more than likley be on ebay monday as i've seen some mad money there over the last day or so.

thefinalstage

John you will be disappointed as hell. People tried in America buying like 10 consoles and couldn't shift he things.

chalkitdown1

johnplayerblue wrote:

€750. Is the demand not what was expected or whats the crack.

I think you answered your own question, there. It's not selling well at all in the States, presumably because of the price. I imagine it'll be the same here.

Here's the console sales for the Month of February in the US & Canada.

Nintendo DS 485,149
Wii 335,324
PlayStation 2 295,102
Xbox 360 228,225
PlayStation Portable 175,651
Game Boy Advance 135,887
PlayStation 3 127,321
GameCube 23,844
Xbox 480

Not looking good for the PS3 at all, really. You can walk into any shop and just pick them off the shelves.

brendor

wow aren't you the Donald Trump! your brillance even transcends the need for correct spelling!!

i look forward to seeing you on Entrepreneur of the year (or as you would say it enterpreneeur)

Enjoy spending your millions!!

Sony should employ you to tell them what to do!!

Vegeta

brendor wrote:

wow aren't you the Donald Trump! your brillance even transcends the need for correct spelling!!

i look forward to seeing you on Entrepreneur of the year (or as you would say it enterpreneeur)

Enjoy spending your millions!!

Sony should employ you to tell them what to do!!

Just had to point that out.

johnplayerblue

brendor wrote:

wow aren't you the Donald Trump! your brillance even transcends the need for correct spelling!!

i look forward to seeing you on Entrepreneur of the year (or as you would say it enterpreneeur)

Enjoy spending your millions!!

Sony should employ you to tell them what to do!!

Don't wet yourself for no apparent reason little dude. Donald Trump? WTF?
If you have a problem living in a free market KILL yourself. I can get you some cheap pison should you need some, i know you would like the cheap stuff from the tone of your responce. This will really make your day, made a killing on the wii, still makeing a few quid on the psp(even God would pay for a 1.50) and a month or so after the 23rd i would lay money on the fact that i will make money on the ps3. Bye the way, the wii is crap. No real reason for saying that but just tought i'd throw in my two cents. 99% OF KNACKERS IN THE COUNTRY, LIKE YOURSELY CAN'T SPELL, DON'T STOP YE FROM MAKING A BUNDLE. Does it?

chalkitdown1

Calm down, ladies.

Is there some feud going on between you two or something? That arguement seems to have stemmed from absolutely nothing.

johnplayerblue

chalkitdown1 wrote:

Calm down, ladies.

Is there some feud going on between you two or something? That arguement seems to have stemmed from absolutely nothing.

Your telling ME!

Helix

johnplayerblue wrote:

it will more than likley be on ebay monday

ahahahahaha

no chance of you shifting if for even the same as what you paid for it on ebay

they cant sell them in america or japan, and pretty much everywhere in europe will have loads of them, far more than demand

johnplayerblue

Aahahah
At last the thread is back on track.
Ye i guess at worst i would get my money back say after a month or so if it was a thing i really didn't like it but thats not what the thread was about really. I'm not that big a gamer, i liked COD 1&2 on the pc but Activision didn't relise it on the pc so i bought it for the wii and oh boy what a pile of ****e. But i'm after selling my brother on the idea of the ps3 as he spends many hrs on the ps2 and after reading some forums i'm not as happy as i should be about such a purchase as the ps3. I have read that on some games its a lot like the graphics on the pc which would not be a draw back to the console imop as i much prefer pc over consoles. So i guess what im asking is would something like NBA07 be way way WAY better on the ps3 vs the pc or would it just be way better?

johnplayerblue

Aahahah
At last the thread is back on track.
Ye i guess at worst i would get my money back say after a month or so if it was a thing i really didn't like it but thats not what the thread was about really. I'm not that big a gamer, i liked COD 1&2 on the pc but Activision didn't release it on the pc so i bought it for the wii and oh boy what a pile of ****e. But i'm after selling my brother on the idea of the ps3 as he spends many hrs on the ps2 and after reading some forums i'm not as happy as i should be about such a purchase as the ps3. I have read that on some games its a lot like the graphics on the pc which would not be a draw back to the console as i much prefer pc over consoles. So i guess what im asking is would something like NBA07 be way way WAY better on the ps3 vs the pc or would it just be way better?

Ciaran500

johnplayerblue wrote:

So i guess what im asking is would something like NBA07 be way way WAY better on the ps3 vs the pc or would it just be way better?

It depends completely on the developer.

projectmayhem

johnplayerblue wrote:

How comes i was able to call my local xtra vision store today and pre book a ps3 for next friday. Console, 2 games and an extra control pad for €750. Is the demand not what was expected or whats the crack.

well my store had 5 xbox 360's pre-booked, 2 Wii's and so far 31 PS3's... i think that says it all

tvnutz

projectmayhem wrote:

well my store had 5 xbox 360's pre-booked, 2 Wii's and so far 31 PS3's... i think that says it all

They have plenty of them in xtra vision,the signs say only 10 available to get interest. our target was 14,we have 18.

johnplayerblue

projectmayhem wrote:

well my store had 5 xbox 360's pre-booked, 2 Wii's and so far 31 PS3's... i think that says it all

Well i spend a lot of time on ebay both buying and selling and as i stated from what i've seen over the last few days "mad money". One seller with a feedback of "12" sold a ps3 with ONE game for €889 on saturday night with €60 shipping. Thats bad enough but saturday night is the worst night of the week to sell on ebay, depending on the item it could be as much as €40 to €50 on say a P4 chip with a gig of pc3200ram, as opposed to a Wednesday evening also ebay have made some big changes to the selling of this console. There are quiet a few factors that make the US launch very different from the UK & Irish launch, so to say there are units siting on US shelves has no baring on the irish market. The Wii is crap but yet you can make up to €100 net profit on ebay on the right day for a basic package on the right day you can get your €250 back for an 18mth old 1.50 psp boxed with base unit and power pack and from what i've seen theres at least €100+ to be made on the ps3 and perhaps more if not sold as a bundle...
From what i have been told by 3 people from different xtra vision stores Monday is a strange day but in a good way for the stores as Monday seems to be the day that a lot of bookings are and have been taken so i guess tomorrow may very well tell a different story as to how many units shift plus you still have the other 3 days to go, but as for been able to walk in and pick up a p3s from the shelf after Friday is IMO fancyfull thinking for whatever reason

brendor

Vegeta wrote:

Just had to point that out.

Thanks for pointing that out!!

BTW you need to get laid.

Pilot Wings

does it not say on the posters in the windows of xtravisions at the moment that the ps3 is first come first served on the day once you have a pre book and that a prebook does not guarantee you a console on release date. so just prebook thursday nite and be first in line on friday moring for opening!!

unreggd

then whats the point of preordering?

Smyths get the amount, or a few extra, of what they have preordered. have 187 preorders for the PS3, think we got 192 consoles

So you are guaranteed a console with your deposit, but its only held for 24 hours unless you make arrangements in advanced

johnplayerblue

Pilot Wings wrote:

does it not say on the posters in the windows of xtravisions at the moment that the ps3 is first come first served on the day once you have a pre book and that a prebook does not guarantee you a console on release date. so just prebook thursday nite and be first in line on friday moring for opening!!

Thats mad, your mad, perhaps you need to learn how to read as much as i need to learn to spell and punctate. Xtra vision or any other large store are not gona let a free for all in there stores with that kind of cash on the hip, there gona call and arrange a time for collection or something along them lines. At least i would hope so...

Skyuser

chalkitdown1 wrote:

You can walk into any shop and just pick them off the shelves.

Buying products off shelves, now that is just shocking. You hardly expect to be pre-ordering until the end of time do you.

chalkitdown1

Skyuser wrote:

Buying products off shelves, now that is just shocking. You hardly expect to be pre-ordering until the end of time do you.

'til the end of time? No. Two months after release? Yes. You still can't pick up a Wii in the States, demand for them is so high. The 360 was the exact same this time last year. Very hard to come by until Mid March or thereabouts.

monument

brendor and johnplayerblue – stop the fighting or you will be banned

STAY ON TOPIC AND DO NOT REPLY TO THIS POST

christophicus

chalkitdown1 wrote:

'til the end of time? No. Two months after release? Yes. You still can't pick up a Wii in the States, demand for them is so high. The 360 was the exact same this time last year. Very hard to come by until Mid March or thereabouts.

Yes thats the Wii your talking about. The PS3 in america you can easily go in and buy it off of the shelves. Dont compare the Wii to the PS3 . And OP I seriously would not buy some PS3's in order to sell them on Ebay, I dont think you will even get your money back. I would say the reason they are going for alot atm is because they have not yet been released over here and also the fact that BD is most likely cheaper in america. I really do think that you would not make your money back .

Ciaran500

christophicus wrote:

Dont compare the Wii to the PS3

Why not? And the 360 was in a similar position to the Wii last year, they were still hard to come by till around this time.

christophicus

Ciaran500 wrote:

Why not? And the 360 was in a similar position to the Wii last year, they were still hard to come by till around this time.

Because the The Wii's target Audience is far wider then the PS3's Also the PS3 is well over twice as expensive as the Wii, which significantly cuts down the amount of people able to afford it.

Pilot Wings

johnplayerblue wrote:

Thats mad, your mad, perhaps you need to learn how to read as much as i need to learn to spell and punctate. Xtra vision or any other large store are not gona let a free for all in there stores with that kind of cash on the hip, there gona call and arrange a time for collection or something along them lines. At least i would hope so...

Well if im mad why not go read the signs yourself thats if you can like! anyway asked in store if that was the case and got told it was going to be like that! And also been confirmed by another person who works in xtravision on another thread the xtravision forcing bundles one that is.

hanton12

Asked out of curiosity in my local Xtravision in Waterford how many pre books had they had and the guy told me about 5 or 6. Says no one is bothered. They will have enough he reckons to cover anyone there but he expects some to turn up on the day to pick some up. Thinks the store will only get enough to just cover pre books so it looks sold out, but then he said they probably wont have a choice as Xtravison wont send extras to Waterford when they have overbooking in other stores in the country.

#Elites

#Elites wrote:

the only reason they went on ebay for loads was because europe didnt have the ps3, and there was short supply (i think)

...and because it was Christmas.

0ubliette

chalkitdown1 wrote:

I think you answered your own question, there. It's not selling well at all in the States, presumably because of the price. I imagine it'll be the same here.

Here's the console sales for the Month of February in the US & Canada.

Nintendo DS 485,149
Wii 335,324
PlayStation 2 295,102
Xbox 360 228,225
PlayStation Portable 175,651
Game Boy Advance 135,887
PlayStation 3 127,321
GameCube 23,844
Xbox 480



Not looking good for the PS3 at all, really. You can walk into any shop and just pick them off the shelves.

Chalkitdown? As in chalkitdown from gamesradar??

quad_red

johnplayerblue wrote:

Ye i guess at worst i would get my money back say after a month or so if it was a thing i really didn't like it but thats not what the thread was about really.

I just don't see how you figure that. The ebay prices you're referring were only achieved because the PS3 had not been released in Europe. It soon will be. And, if the massive surplus in the US is indicative, supply will exceed demand.

So - why would someone pay you over the odds next month when they can walk into a shop and get a brand new one?

Mitch Connor

quad_red wrote:

I just don't see how you figure that. The ebay prices you're referring were only achieved because the PS3 had not been released in Europe. It soon will be. And, if the massive surplus in the US is indicative, supply will exceed demand.

So - why would someone pay you over the odds next month when they can walk into a shop and get a brand new one?

with the ease of bringing it back to the shop too, if something goes wrong.

I doubt i will be getting a PS3 anytime soon, though knowing me i might go in search of one on launch day, but unless i was making a saving, i would not be buying something so expensive from ebay. would prefer to wait a few weeks and pick it up from the shop, and have a bricks and mortor place to bring it back too.

However, the internet is full of idiots, so you might get someone willing to part with an over the odds amount, cause they're an idiot. Seriously, didn't someone spend a fortune on a PS3 or Wii BOX on ebay...no console, just the box.

johnplayerblue

However, the internet is full of idiots,

I would have said the world is full of idiots (myself included)rather than just the net! but you seem to know better.
There are over 100 million auctions on ebay at any given time of the day and you point out one case. I not sure of the logic in branding the whole net as idiots from just one case, a case i might add that you are wrong about. It was a psp...

Mitch Connor

johnplayerblue wrote:

However, the internet is full of idiots,

I would have said the world is full of idiots (myself included)rather than just the net! but you seem to know better.
There are over 100 million auctions on ebay at any given time of the day and you point out one case. I not sure of the logic in branding the whole net as idiots from just one case, a case i might add that you are wrong about. It was a psp...

erm...the internet IS full of idiots. So is the world, but the you are saying you will EBAY it, so the internet is more relevant. Yes, i only pointed out 1 case, but i am sure there are others. Such as people paying over €400 for INFORMATION on how to POSSIBLY get a 360 on launch. With over 100million auctions at any given time, i'm positive that a few of them are being bid on by idiots. Also, i didn't brand the entire net as idiots, that is clearly not what i said. I siad the internet is full of idiots, it is. that is not the same as saying everyone on the net is an idiot and you know. The fact i got the type of auction wrong is irrelevant too, it was stil someone paying a crap load for a box.

Anyway, you seem a little overly sensitive to my comment, and i can't really understand why. The odds on you selling a second hand PS3 for a good price on EBAY, when there will not be major shortages of it, will be low, imo, and i personally wouldn't spend that type of cash and have no comeback if something goes wrong - i'd much prefer to bring a new PS3 back to Gamestop, then try get Sony to deal with any complaint i might have.

quad_red

You are playing seriously long odds on even getting the money you spend on a PS3 back (never mind making a profit).

As Tauren has said, relying on someone who is willing to spend €800 plus with no idea what the market value of a second hand PS3 is, in a market where PS3's are freely available......

Well, unless you're willing to keep it or take a loss, it's not worth the gamble.

Flaccus

Personally I frown upon people who sell hard to get consoles on ebay. This will probably not be the case with the PS3. I hope there are loads left on the shelves and those that wanted to ebay them get burned badly. This was certainly not the case with the Wii. All those greed merchants selling for pure profit and who argue that it's a free market should ask themselves what service are they providing. The anwer is NONE. They are effectively depriving someone from purchasing a console in a shop at the rrp. I know noone is forcing people to buy these consoles on ebay at ridiculous prices but sometimes some people have more money then sense and it may be a case of buying it at what ever the cost rather then dissapointing poor Johnny on his birthday. A pity the revenue don't wise up to these so called ebayers. All credit due to the guy over on the Nintendo forums who flogged his wii on adverts for what he paid for it, as he realised it wasn't for him. He could easily have been greedy and stuck it on ebay.

koneko

I think that people expecting to make a profit on reselling PS3s are going to be disappointed. Everyone heard about what a mad rush it was initially in the States and how the prices drove up to huuge amounts on Ebay, but I'm sure plenty of them aren't regular readers of news sites and forums, and don't realise things have changed. Some of them are probably expecting to make a "quick buck" selling PS3s on Ebay.

shinzon

aye the only reason huge profits were made in the beginning was that the only place you could get them was the US and japan so hence the huge sums of money that were being exchanged on ebay

Now that its out over here on friday (thursday midnight for some lucky buggers ), then that will no longer happen

Shin

Moojuice

Let the OP try selling a PS3 on Ebay on Monday. If he manages to sell it for a profit then fair ****s to him. He will probably fail miserably though. We will see on onday how hard or easy it is to buy a PS3.

dor83

I would'nt recomend trying to sell a ps3 on ebay, I bought mine around christmas time and paid $750 for it with a game and extra controler, that is actualy less than what the seller paid(the seller sent me the reciept and it was for $780). It worked out a lot less than what you will be paying from extra vision. I would'nt buy a ps3 over here at all, if I had'nt already got one I'd get one form here they mark it as $20 so you dont get hit for customs and it will only take 2 days to arrive.

morbo

I don't think he has a snowflakes chance in hell of selling it at a profit on eBay. There is simply no demand for the thing in Ireland. Last summer when I was on a J1 in the US, I worked for GameStop. The hype that surrounded the 360 and the Wii was massive from what I know of the launch here and there, but we couldn't get a pre-order on the PS3 for love or money. People were interested, then you'd say, "Well, the deposit is $150 minimum, and it costs $700 in total." They would just look at you blankly, sort of expecting a rye smile or a laugh, pretending it was actually a joke. When it didn't come, they'd just walk off. Penny-Arcade did a good comic about the availability of PS3's in the States (http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/02/10).

As for here, everyone I know that bought a PS2 and proclaimed its greatness from atop the hills and was determined to hold out for the PS3 is slowly becoming disenchanted with the whole thing, and have started thinking about getting a 360. I have had every console on the market since the Atari, with one exception; I wouldn't take a PS2 if you gave it to me for free. I just didn't get the attraction. I have a Wii, a 360, a PSP, a DS and a PC (wow! That really makes me sound like a geek!), but I won't be getting a PS3 anytime soon. If my girlfriend decides she'd like to buy me one for my birthday, I'd actually tell her to spend the money on law books for me instead!

But back to the point, you will not make money selling the PS3 on eBay. Unless you find a group of people who are housebound and have nobody to bring them to a shops to buy one, and who all have the Internet, but have never managed to find their way to play.com or amazon.co.uk or any of the other retail sites besides eBay, to start a bidding war amongst. But, ya know, good luck and all... You'll need it!

Zombrex

As morbo (and everyone else) said I would be surprised if you could shift this for profit on eBay (though it is unwise to underestimate the stupidity of the average eBay user, as the guy who sold an Xbox box for $300 demonstrates )

The €630 price tag and lack of quality launch games puts the PS3 way way out of impulse purchase territory, and as such it will only be hard core gamers snapping the first ones up. Which in the grand scheme of things isn't that many. I would not be surprise if it was relatively simple to pick up a PS3 a few days after launch, just as it is in America.

event

so what is this thread actually about?

people talking about selling stuff on ebay?

morbo

I like the cut of your jib, Wicknight. It's to the point, but sarcastic. The only reason the damn thing is so expensive anyway is the Blu-Ray. Each Blu-Ray drive cost Sony about €500 to put into each machine. If it was an established technology, or if the media war between Blu-Ray and HD-DVD was over, the PS3 would be coming in at the same price as the 360 did at launch. DAMN YOU SONY!

morbo

event wrote:

so what is this thread actually about?

people talking about selling stuff on ebay?

Well, it started off that way. Then two 'posters' started fighting over grammar, when to be honest, they were both as shocking as each other. Then, it sort of descended into a bitching session about personal preferences and how stupid people that use the Internet are. That's when I decided to join in! But as the famous quote goes, "Arguing on the Internet is like competing in the Special Olympics, even if you win, you're still a f***ing retard!"

I would now like to distance myself from any liability arising out of that statement. I was merely relaying what another anonymous person had stated before. I bear no ill will to the Special Olympics, and I hope I never have to compete in it!

quad_red

morbo wrote:

Well, it started off that way. Then two 'posters' started fighting over grammar, when to be honest, they were both as shocking as each other. Then, it sort of descended into a bitching session about personal preferences and how stupid people that use the Internet are. That's when I decided to join in!

Really? Well (and far be it for me to question your obvious supremacy here), it looked to me like there were 5 reasoned posts right before you laid down the law and told us what's what.

But, how lucky we are that you did join in. To sort the men from the boys. The wheat from the chaff. You 'da man' morbo!

morbo

quad_red wrote:

Really? Well (and far be it for me to question your obvious supremacy here), it looked to me like there were 5 reasoned posts right before you laid down the law and told us what's what.

But, how lucky we are that you did join in. To sort the men from the boys. The wheat from the chaff. You 'da man' morbo!

Your damn right I am! Somebody's got to do it. Yes, I do get that you are being sarcastic, as was I in the last post, but I'll take it damn it! Thank you so much for your support. Good hustle, now hit the showers!

quad_red

morbo wrote:

Your damn right I am! Somebody's got to do it. Yes, I do get that you are being sarcastic, as was I in the last post, but I'll take it damn it! Thank you so much for your support. Good hustle, now hit the showers!

Hoo raa!

johnplayerblue

http://cgi.ebay.ie/Brand-New-UK-Sony-PS3-console-with-F1-Championship-game_W0QQitemZ170090645331QQcategoryZ62054QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Irish people, more so the country kind know the price of every thing and the value of noting..........
I have and would and will continue to cancel bids from this country. Don't want to pay for postage, ask for a buy now price and they tell you that they can get it such and such a place cheaper? what gives, why the **** have you come to my auctions to ask stupid ****ing questions. bunch of wasters....;->

Ciaran500

Ehh pre orders haven't sold out, play.com where you bought one of them hasn't even sold out or is that even your auction

johnplayerblue

Ciaran500 wrote:

Ehh pre orders haven't sold out, play.com where you bought one of them hasn't even sold out or is that even your auction

You make a good point there Ciaran but a mute one cos you see that what i said all along was very much right. I'm not usually a told you so person but i did say that there was a nice little profit on this console. English people pay for what they want which is why i would only list this as a UK only auction. Any of the remarks passed here over the last few days are from the kind of people i would not deal with on any of my auctions.

koneko

Look at the auction, the winning bidder has 0 feedback, I would be very surprised if he is genuine and actually goes through with it.