Problems with tail gators?

5500

Here's a would be solution,The kits are for show use only but id say they would scare the bejaysus out of someone sitting on your bumper

This is one of my friends cars,He says this works a treat on tail gators...
http://www.dizzpics.com/Vids/Flamer1.3gp
http://www.dizzpics.com/Vids/Flamer2.3gp

feckidyparp

The problem with tail gators is your not driving fast enough:D

The General

Just hit the brakes slighty and they'll back off, thats what i always do

feckidyparp

I find washing your windows for a good few seconds can piss them off enough to back off. nothing worse than someone elses mucky spray going on yer windows

_Kaiser_

The General wrote:

Just hit the brakes slighty and they'll back off, thats what i always do

Doesn't always work..especially with Northern truck drivers! :mad:

Rudolph Claus

Only women complain of tail gaitors. If you`d drive your fooking car on a bit and make some progress you wont get tail gaited. Theres your solution, not some piece of nerdy crap you found on the internet. :rolleyes:

fletch

Nuttzy wrote:

Only women complain of tail gaitors. If you`d drive your fooking car on a bit and make some progress you wont get tail gaited. Theres your solution, not some piece of nerdy crap you found on the internet. :rolleyes:

Yeh agreed....generally the people who complain about being tail-gated are those that sit dawdling along in the overtaking lane....(generalisation accepted)

Cucullan

fletch wrote:

Yeh agreed....generally the people who complain about being tail-gated are those that sit dawdling along in the overtaking lane....(generalisation accepted)

Sometimes it not always possible to speed up or drive faster, I notice when your stuck in the middle of a (slow moving 40-50mph) long line of traffic where no-one can overtake you get some tool who drives 2 inches from your back bumper even though there is not a chance of him been able to overtake.

Esel

The recommended response to tailgaters is to slow down. This opens a gap between you and the car in front, and makes it more likely that the moron will pass you. Problem solved. If you speed up, you risk closing the gap between you and the car in front to an unsafe distance.

fletch

Cucullan wrote:

Sometimes it not always possible to speed up or drive faster, I notice when your stuck in the middle of a (slow moving 40-50mph) long line of traffic where no-one can overtake you get some tool who drives 2 inches from your back bumper even though there is not a chance of him been able to overtake.

Hence the reason I said "generalisation accepted"...I know there are instances where somebody may be tail gating you for no reason, like on a single lane road hence the reason that I mentioned the "overtaking lane" implying a dual-carraigeway/motorway

scdub

of course if you really want to p*** them off just knock back a gear and watch their faces as they stamp on the brake to avoid collision.. only place I ever have problems with them is on the dual carriageway in traffic and thats my solution..

Big Nelly

fletch wrote:

Yeh agreed....generally the people who complain about being tail-gated are those that sit dawdling along in the overtaking lane....(generalisation accepted)

Nuttzy wrote:

Only women complain of tail gaitors. If you`d drive your fooking car on a bit and make some progress you wont get tail gaited. Theres your solution, not some piece of nerdy crap you found on the internet

Exactly lads!!! usually sitting on the white line going about 50 down the road and holding onto the steering for dear life....also have the seat up so far they cant move any distance because they are jammed against the steering wheel....also if you do finally get past them they are in pure shock that someone else is on the road they nearly crash into you....

Then of course if it is night it will take them at least 30 secs to turn off full headlight....then as soon as you are any distance away from them they flick back on lights so you cant see a f**king thing so you slow down to get them to turn off and they still havent a clue what to do.....also you will notice these are the people that leave the fog light constanstly on!!!!

If anyone thinks I am bulls**t please drive down the N3......first of all there is hundred of L plates plastered all over every car just in case you hadnt fingured out they where a learner adn you will see these random people described above all over it! :mad:

5500

Wel personally i dont have a problem expcept for in one way villages or built up areas with ramps,Its either drive slowly over them or have my back bumper torn off,if some tit behind me wants to sit on my arse then so be it but its not gonna make my fly over ramps to speed up his journey

layke

Pull over, let them speed up & pass, watch the crash up ahead.

Pass by accident laughing and pointing complete with cheeky grin.

Big Nelly

layke wrote:

Pull over, let them speed up & pass, watch the crash up ahead.

Pass by accident laughing and pointing complete with cheeky grin.

Or have actually done this.....the straight stretch on the cavan side of Virginia(N3) is the biggest play ground for the Garda....they love it and have caught many a person...so I was coming back up to Dublin one Sunday morning about 11.....there fav time to hit this part of road.....so was right on speed limit.....this spanner in Monaghan reg came flying up behind me.....seen it was this young one with the BF/husband sitting in passenger side not looking the best.....so before I had a chance she had already flashed twice....pulled over and waved at them as they passed....her big thick head was impressed....went flying on....around next cornor and they was my buddy......pulls them over....I slow down and go past laughing my head off at her.......she didnt look impressed!!!

Doolittle51

I generally dont speed very much, especially on small/estate roads, and tailgaters really pi55 me off. I can understand if i was driving about 20mph, but when you're driving at or slightly above the limit, these ****3rs are still on your ass. They basically expect you to speed so they can.

I don't mind them on the motorway cause you can pull into the other lane and let them speed away. But there's nothing you can do to shake them off on small roads. I try the fog lights sometimes.....rarely works.

I'd love to just slam on the brakes and have them crash into the back of me. Teach them a lesson. And I've noticed recently that many of them are old enough (40/50 year olds!!)


I know this is off topic, but I think anyone caught drink driving should get a mandatory 1 month jail sentence. If the government want to do something about road safety, then they should bring in strict laws like this.

fletch

Doolittle51 wrote:

I don't mind them on the motorway cause you can pull into the other lane and let them speed away. But there's nothing you can do to shake them off on small roads. I try the fog lights sometimes.....rarely works.

You sound like an outside lane hogger to me

Big Nelly

Doolittle51 wrote:

I generally dont speed very much, especially on small/estate roads, and tailgaters really pi55 me off. I can understand if i was driving about 20mph, but when you're driving at or slightly above the limit, these ****3rs are still on your ass. They basically expect you to speed so they can.

I don't mind them on the motorway cause you can pull into the other lane and let them speed away. But there's nothing you can do to shake them off on small roads. I try the fog lights sometimes.....rarely works.

I'd love to just slam on the brakes and have them crash into the back of me. Teach them a lesson. And I've noticed recently that many of them are old enough (40/50 year olds!!)

I know this is off topic, but I think anyone caught drink driving should get a mandatory 1 month jail sentence. If the government want to do something about road safety, then they should bring in strict laws like this.

First off in an estate or even on a back road if you are in front of someone and you see that they are trying to get ahead there is a number of things you can do.....first use full headlights when possible so they can see in front of you in case anything is coming...or there is a cornor.....then also if you go around a cornor and you are on a straight stretch a few flashes of the indicator will tell driver behind that road is clear to pass....this is easy and will first get person behind you off your ass and save alot of distress on both parts.....prob is loads of people still dont know about this.....on road to Athboy other day......lorry in front....around cornor and flick of indicator....car in front sits behind....lorry only doing about 30....know road well so I pass by both and them and then flick on emergency to thank driver......how easy was that????????

Not sure about the 40/50 age thing because I aint the slowest driver but will keep within the limits so I dont have problems with tail gators!!

Slam on brakes and you could be seen to be causing an accident!!!

Not sure why we have gone onto drink driving but that is just mental.....ok if they crash and hurt someone but if everyone that was caught drink driving was thrown in jail the country would seize up.....no place in jails......people losing jobs left right and centre!! 12 months ban seems fine to me.....wat happens person that has a pint or a half and get stops and for some reason it goes green....not everyone that drink drives is absolutely hammered so I dont see how you can make this statement!!!

I aint defending drink driving!! my cousin died becasue he was stupid enought to do it but I think your statement is wrong!

layke

Big Nelly wrote:

Or have actually done this.....the straight stretch on the cavan side of Virginia(N3) is the biggest play ground for the Garda....they love it and have caught many a person...so I was coming back up to Dublin one Sunday morning about 11.....there fav time to hit this part of road.....so was right on speed limit.....this spanner in Monaghan reg came flying up behind me.....seen it was this young one with the BF/husband sitting in passenger side not looking the best.....so before I had a chance she had already flashed twice....pulled over and waved at them as they passed....her big thick head was impressed....went flying on....around next cornor and they was my buddy......pulls them over....I slow down and go past laughing my head off at her.......she didnt look impressed!!!

Fantastic, I bet you chuckled for 3 days straight.

In fact you have me laughing

mike65

Doolittle51 wrote:

I don't mind them on the motorway cause you can pull into the other lane and let them speed away.

Dont drive on the outside lane.

Doolittle51 wrote:

I'd love to just slam on the brakes and have them crash into the back of me. Teach them a lesson. And I've noticed recently that many of them are old enough (40/50 year olds!!)

That might be tempting but would be a very dumb thing to do, I mean do you want your car off the road, and to have to deal with his/her insurance company (if he/she is insured!) and go to court as a witness??

Mike.

Doolittle51

Originally Posted by fletch
You sound like an outside lane hogger to me

You sound like a tailgaiting pr1ck to me.

Whats wrong with being in the outside lane, DOING THE SPEED LIMIT, and making progress compared to the traffic in the inside lane? Nothing, but the ***** who flash you and drive up your arse should be able to force you off the road?

Big Nelly

Doolittle51 wrote:

You sound like a tailgaiting pr1ck to me.

Whats wrong with being in the outside lane, DOING THE SPEED LIMIT, and making progress compared to the traffic in the inside lane? Nothing, but the ***** who flash you and drive up your arse should be able to force you off the road?

Because you are not supposed to be....its the passign lane....you are supposed to move back into the inside lane after you over-take someone!!!

Doolittle51

Originally Posted by Big Nelly
Because you are not supposed to be....its the passign lane....you are supposed to move back into the inside lane after you over-take someone!!!

I do, but sometimes its busy!

mike65

Doolittle51 you are on your first and last warning. Anymore personal abuse and foot stamping and you are banned.

Mike.

Big Nelly

Doolittle51 wrote:

I do, but sometimes its busy!

Trying to back track now?:-) its so busy because of people hogging the lanes!!

Idleater

Big Nelly wrote:

you are supposed to move back into the inside lane after you over-take someone!!!

Doolittle51 wrote:

I do, but sometimes its busy!

I think the ROTR state that if you are not going to pass out the car in front of you then you should keep sufficient distance behind them and keep sufficiently to the left to allow other road users to pass if they so desire.

L.

Doolittle51

Yea, Ideally you should be able to do move in and out of the inside lane, but when it's busy, it doesn't really work too well.

Thats the problem...traffic, not tailgaiters!


Apologies for the personal absue.

shabbyroad

Big Nelly wrote:

First off in an estate or even on a back road if you are in front of someone and you see that they are trying to get ahead there is a number of things you can do.....first use full headlights when possible so they can see in front of you in case anything is coming...or there is a cornor.....then also if you go around a cornor and you are on a straight stretch a few flashes of the indicator will tell driver behind that road is clear to pass....this is easy and will first get person behind you off your ass and save alot of distress on both parts.....prob is loads of people still dont know about this.....on road to Athboy other day......lorry in front....around cornor and flick of indicator....car in front sits behind....lorry only doing about 30....know road well so I pass by both and them and then flick on emergency to thank driver......how easy was that????????

Not sure about the 40/50 age thing because I aint the slowest driver but will keep within the limits so I dont have problems with tail gators!!

Slam on brakes and you could be seen to be causing an accident!!!

Not sure why we have gone onto drink driving but that is just mental.....ok if they crash and hurt someone but if everyone that was caught drink driving was thrown in jail the country would seize up.....no place in jails......people losing jobs left right and centre!! 12 months ban seems fine to me.....wat happens person that has a pint or a half and get stops and for some reason it goes green....not everyone that drink drives is absolutely hammered so I dont see how you can make this statement!!!

I aint defending drink driving!! my cousin died becasue he was stupid enought to do it but I think your statement is wrong!

I'm getting good insight here. I used to have difficulty understanding why there are so many deaths on our roads.

" a few flashes of the indicator will tell driver behind that road is clear to pass"
bull**** and you know it, where the **** did you learn to drive ?

"....know road well so I pass by both and them and then flick on emergency to thank driver......how easy was that???????? "
easy yes, stupid even moreso
among the final thoughts of many a driver "... know road well..."

StRiKeR

most Tail Gators are Clio's corsa and the likes, they are indeed very anonying, and WHY please WHY are they tail gating a 240HP car with a 65HP while I was actually doing 100km/h on the main road, was I driving too slow?

I can understand if I was driving 75 or 80 they comes up closer so I know i was driving too slow but 100km/h, how much faster do they want to go in the little thing that feels like floating in the air when its travelling at high speed, one guy was driving so close to me and I had to stop the car because of emergency, all I had to say to him was new panel and bump please thank you.

css

Simple solution for tailgaters, drop off the pedal and let speed drop to 40, then floor it.. Bye bye tailgater..

_Kaiser_

Lots of people here are assuming theres an overtaking (or as a big electronic sign on the N3 at Clonsilla recently claimed: FAST) lane to get past in.

But what about these twisty narrow roads (like parts of the N3) that are posted as 100 kph?? (just asking for accidents really) and where there's no room to let the idiot past you??

Or the stretch in Navan that limits you to 60kph and where the hard shoulder is usually filled with cars... what do you do there?

Fact of the matter is this.. if someone is moving at the posted limit (or close to it) there's absolutely no reason for ANYONE to be tailgating them, except that there's too much ego behind the wheel, and not enogh brains/cop on! For those who are unaware, the posted limit is an upper maximum, and regardless should be driven at a speed suitable for the given conditions at the time. Personally I always try to drive at around the limit whenever possible, but STILL I have people sitting on my bumper a lot of the time.

I always love when people here get on their high horses and spout their holier-than-thou comments about learners and such, and then turn around and complain that they can't BREAK THE POSTED SPEED LIMITS when they want to!

Lump Basher

eireal wrote:

Here's a would be solution,The kits are for show use only but id say they would scare the bejaysus out of someone sitting on your bumper

This is one of my friends cars,He says this works a treat on tail gators...
http://www.dizzpics.com/Vids/Flamer1.3gp
http://www.dizzpics.com/Vids/Flamer2.3gp

Where can I get this item???

_Kaiser_

Illegal I'm sure... I remember an episode of Pimp my Ride USA (where anything goes! ) where they did this to someone's car, and the manager made them take it off again.

Cucullan

fletch wrote:

Hence the reason I said "generalisation accepted"...I know there are instances where somebody may be tail gating you for no reason, like on a single lane road hence the reason that I mentioned the "overtaking lane" implying a dual-carraigeway/motorway

Sorry about that Fletch I actually meant to quote Nuttzy's reply and was backing your point not knocking it

Big Nelly wrote:

First off in an estate or even on a back road if you are in front of someone and you see that they are trying to get ahead there is a number of things you can do.....first use full headlights when possible so they can see in front of you in case anything is coming...or there is a cornor.....then also if you go around a cornor and you are on a straight stretch a few flashes of the indicator will tell driver behind that road is clear to pass....this is easy and will first get person behind you off your ass and save alot of distress on both parts.....prob is loads of people still dont know about this.....on road to Athboy other day......lorry in front....around cornor and flick of indicator....car in front sits behind....lorry only doing about 30....know road well so I pass by both and them and then flick on emergency to thank driver......how easy was that????????

That the first I heard of that, what page in the rules of the road is it? It certainly is easy alright...... the easist way of getting yourself killed on a road I've seen or heard of for a while. Personally I wouldn't overtake a vehical till I can see that the road is clear regardless of how much flashing of his indicator the guy in front is doing.

bazz26

Seen an interesting thing tonight on the usual trip on the way home.

On the dual carriage way in front of me on the inside lane was a Saxo with an L plate up on the rear window. The inside lane was pretty busy and every one seemed to be doing around the 100kph mark. Anyway the Saxo moved into the overtaking lane and proceeded to overtake the first car in front of it. The Saxo must have been doing 105kph on the outside lane and was making little or no progress at overtaking the cars on the inside lane doing the same speed. The Saxo stayed in the outside lane for about 2 miles making no progress.

Then a Saab approached him from behind still keeping a bit of distance, kind of waiting for him to complete his maneuver and move back into the inside lane. So the Saxo overtakes the first car and there is a good gap between that car and the next one on the inside lane for the Saxo to pull back in. Instead the Saxo decided to stay on the outside lane and try and catch up with the next car without really making any progress. By now the Saab driver is getting a bit impatient and starts flashing the Saxo to give trying to catch the next car and just pull back into the inside lane. The Saxo didn't and this went on for about another half mile, then the Saab came right up to the rear bumper of the Saxo and flashed him again. The Saxo then increased speed a little and as I can only describe as inexperience made a panic move and suddenly moved back into the inside lane nearly clipping the front of another car in the inside lane. Luckily the other car half anticipated this and hit the brakes. A serious accident barley avoided.

Anyway my thoughts on this are that both the Saxo and Saab drivers should share the blame here. The Saxo driver for trying to overtake traffic that was not moving any faster than himself/herself was willing to do. I also think the Saab driver was at fault for trying to intimidate the other driver which resulted him/her into panicing and making a dangerous maneuver.

Big Nelly

shabbyroad wrote:

I'm getting good insight here. I used to have difficulty understanding why there are so many deaths on our roads.

" a few flashes of the indicator will tell driver behind that road is clear to pass"
bull**** and you know it, where the **** did you learn to drive ?

"....know road well so I pass by both and them and then flick on emergency to thank driver......how easy was that???????? "
easy yes, stupid even moreso
among the final thoughts of many a driver "... know road well..."

lol.....read the rules book again! that will help you!! I know loads of clown that read the book cover to cover and still go out and crash! I have been on the roads for over 10 years now and not one crash! not even a hint! have you that record? prob no! if you knew how to drive you would know about lorrys doing that! not even on back roads but this is a common occurance on the N3......thats the problem with some people!! too busy reading the rule book and then go head first into someone and blame everyone else for it!!

Cucullan wrote:

That the first I heard of that, what page in the rules of the road is it? It certainly is easy alright...... the easist way of getting yourself killed on a road I've seen or heard of for a while. Personally I wouldn't overtake a vehical till I can see that the road is clear regardless of how much flashing of his indicator the guy in front is doing.

Again if you had a clue about driving you would know this!! keep ur head stuck in the rule book all you want!! cause it is the most useless bit of information I have ever seen in my life!!! slow drivers and not passing is the reason for crashs....why cant the Garda give people a ticket for being a slow ass! they can do it in US!! e.g. someone driving on N3...lorry doing about 30-50 because of heavy load....you sit behind him wiating for a a "clear" road as you say.....next person comes up and does the same....end up with a line of traffic all doing about 30 while you sit behind lorry doing nothing....he indicates to tell you to pass! you do nothing!! cars behind get pissed and then make a dangerous movement to try and go past instead of sitting there for next 20 miles doing 30.....crash!! well done.....read the rules of the road! that will help you!!

Just as a matter of fact where you both from? just a general question!!!

Big Nelly

Kaiser2000 wrote:

Lots of people here are assuming theres an overtaking (or as a big electronic sign on the N3 at Clonsilla recently claimed: FAST) lane to get past in.

But what about these twisty narrow roads (like parts of the N3) that are posted as 100 kph?? (just asking for accidents really) and where there's no room to let the idiot past you??

Or the stretch in Navan that limits you to 60kph and where the hard shoulder is usually filled with cars... what do you do there?

Fact of the matter is this.. if someone is moving at the posted limit (or close to it) there's absolutely no reason for ANYONE to be tailgating them, except that there's too much ego behind the wheel, and not enogh brains/cop on! For those who are unaware, the posted limit is an upper maximum, and regardless should be driven at a speed suitable for the given conditions at the time. Personally I always try to drive at around the limit whenever possible, but STILL I have people sitting on my bumper a lot of the time.

I know this road....why not pull into hard shoulder and let them pass if they want too? I do it all the time! saves stress on you and stress on them!! problem is you have people going under the limit and then sitting in the middle of the road making sure there is no hope to pass them

Kaiser2000 wrote:

I always love when people here get on their high horses and spout their holier-than-thou comments about learners and such, and then turn around and complain that they can't BREAK THE POSTED SPEED LIMITS when they want to!

There is surveys(dont ask me but heard about it) out there that show learner drivers are the people most at risk for crashs!! nothing about speed limits....just they dont know how to drive correctly....most dont know the rules of the road.....dont know how to indicate at a roundabout....and so on!!! cant remember anyone on here coming on and saying they wanted to break the speed limits?????? link??? this thread and what I am saying is about people driving well under the limit or hogging a lane(look above) and not letting people pass!!!

problem with this country is someone buys a car....get insurance and is allowed out on road next day when they havent driven before! this is a recipy for disaster!!

Raiser

In my experience Tail-gaters don't realise that they are doing anything wrong. They think that somebody driving safely and sensibly while ensuring that they are not a danger to themselves and others are just idiots and see them as being an obstruction on the road.

This logic of course entitle them to then drive 9.5 inches away from your rear bumper, thus encouraging you to drive like the skilled experienced driver that they are. They're driving long enough to do this safely and there is no risk that they will put you or your kids in a wheelchair for life.

On the typical dry, gravel-free, Irish road with excellent visibilty thanks to our sunny days and evenings these guys can easily decelerate from 60-80MPH to a standstill with a 2 or three foot stopping distance. Impressive stuff.

Personally, I think that anyone who happily endangers my car, health and wellbeing by attempting to drive up my rectum is a vegetable and I hate each one of you tail-gating pr1cks with a passion.

To me the typical tail-gater has an arrogant, irritating personality, looks like they're missing chromosomes and they usually beat their wife/children. They need to be taken out of the gene pool - I favour execution by having an over-weight, low-IQ, beer-bellied, classy-driver, photocopier-salesman, white-van-man crash into the back of their "classy motor" at speed.

No flowers or funeral - leave their entrails on the road to turn green as a warning to all the other tail-gaters from that same pi55-poor gene pool.

Big Nelly

Raiser wrote:

Personally, I think that anyone who happily endangers my car, health and wellbeing by attempting to drive up my rectum is a vegetable and I hate each one of you tail-gating pr1cks with a passion.

To me the typical tail-gater has an arrogant, irritating personality, looks like they're missing chromosomes and they usually beat their wife/children. They need to be taken out of the gene pool - I favour execution by having an over-weight, low-IQ, beer-bellied, classy-driver, photocopier-salesman, white-van-man crash into the back of their "classy motor" at speed.

No flowers or funeral - leave their entrails on the road to turn green as a warning to all the other tail-gaters from that same pi55-poor gene pool.

You have a problem with road rage?????

Seth Brundle

bazz26 wrote:

Anyway my thoughts on this are that both the Saxo and Saab drivers should share the blame here. The Saxo driver for trying to overtake traffic that was not moving any faster than himself/herself was willing to do. I also think the Saab driver was at fault for trying to intimidate the other driver which resulted him/her into panicing and making a dangerous maneuver.

The Saab is responsible to a much lesser extent IMO.
The L driver should be aware (as indeed everyone should) that once they have passed the vehicle they were overtaking they should move back into the driving lane.
The L driver should be monitoring his/her mirrors (as indeed everyone should) and be aware of approaching traffic so that they can pull out of the way if needs be.
The L driver should (as indeed everyone should) be aware of the capabilities of their car in terms of trying to overtake, how long it will take, etc. Would he/she have performed this same manouver on a non dual carriagway?
The L driver should (as indeed everyone should) not get into a position whereby they can get intimidated for something that they could have easily avoided.
The L driver should (as indeed everyone should) ensure its safe before they move back into the driving lane.
If the L driver was not up to scratch then they shouldn't be out on their own!
All this however, doesn't give the Saab driver carte blanche to intimidate.

5500

Kaiser2000 wrote:

Illegal I'm sure... I remember an episode of Pimp my Ride USA (where anything goes! ) where they did this to someone's car, and the manager made them take it off again.

The pimp my ride one was hooked up to the fuel tank so it was a flame thrower so to speak,Id say youd be in serious sh!t if caught blasting this down the road but then again ive seen many and evo and wrx backfire big flames under acceleration.

@lumpbasher - the cheapest place for them is ebay,just make sure its a full kit if you buy it

ballooba

I would never trust another road user to tell me that it was safe to pass unless I myself could see that the road was clear.

I was waiting to turn right into my road last night with a fair bit of oncoming traffic moving by slowly past me. One of those cars took it upon himself to let me across which was fair enough and I appreciated the courtesy.

He started flashing his lights at me to move on. What he hadn't seen however was that there were pedestrians crossing my road to his left while he was looking right at me. Had I trusted him I would have ended up with a person (or people) on my car.

BrianD3

Raiser wrote:

Personally, I think that anyone who happily endangers my car, health and wellbeing by attempting to drive up my rectum is a vegetable and I hate each one of you tail-gating pr1cks with a passion.

They are vegetables alright. Ever notice how many tailgaters just sit on your back bumper and don't even attempt to overtake even though the road may be perfectly clear ahead. You see them in the mirror crouched forward at the wheel with their mouth open, a death grip on the steering wheel and staring at the patch of road six inches in front of their car. They're braindead morons driving along purely on instinct and without putting any thought whatsoever into their driving. They know that you press the accelerator to go, turn the wheel to steer and press the brake to stop and that's about it. They're like the zombies wandering around the shopping mall in the film "Dawn of the Dead".

bazz26

kbannon wrote:

The Saab is responsible to a much lesser extent IMO.
The L driver should be aware (as indeed everyone should) that once they have passed the vehicle they were overtaking they should move back into the driving lane.
The L driver should be monitoring his/her mirrors (as indeed everyone should) and be aware of approaching traffic so that they can pull out of the way if needs be.
The L driver should (as indeed everyone should) be aware of the capabilities of their car in terms of trying to overtake, how long it will take, etc. Would he/she have performed this same manouver on a non dual carriagway?
The L driver should (as indeed everyone should) not get into a position whereby they can get intimidated for something that they could have easily avoided.
The L driver should (as indeed everyone should) ensure its safe before they move back into the driving lane.
If the L driver was not up to scratch then they shouldn't be out on their own!
All this however, doesn't give the Saab driver carte blanche to intimidate.

Agree with you here.

shabbyroad

Big Nelly wrote:

lol.....read the rules book again! that will help you!! I know loads of clown that read the book cover to cover and still go out and crash! I have been on the roads for over 10 years now and not one crash! not even a hint! have you that record? prob no! if you knew how to drive you would know about lorrys doing that! not even on back roads but this is a common occurance on the N3......thats the problem with some people!! too busy reading the rule book and then go head first into someone and blame everyone else for it!!



Again if you had a clue about driving you would know this!! keep ur head stuck in the rule book all you want!! cause it is the most useless bit of information I have ever seen in my life!!! slow drivers and not passing is the reason for crashs....why cant the Garda give people a ticket for being a slow ass! they can do it in US!! e.g. someone driving on N3...lorry doing about 30-50 because of heavy load....you sit behind him wiating for a a "clear" road as you say.....next person comes up and does the same....end up with a line of traffic all doing about 30 while you sit behind lorry doing nothing....he indicates to tell you to pass! you do nothing!! cars behind get pissed and then make a dangerous movement to try and go past instead of sitting there for next 20 miles doing 30.....crash!! well done.....read the rules of the road! that will help you!!

Just as a matter of fact where you both from? just a general question!!!

Over 20 years driving here, UK, Europe and the USA. Advanced driving training done. Never 1 accident. Ever. I've witnessed many.

You are the worst kind of expert: a mis-informed arrogant expert. You are a danger to yourself and others because you really believe you are right.

Big Nelly

shabbyroad wrote:

Over 20 years driving here, UK, Europe and the USA. Advanced driving training done. Never 1 accident. Ever. I've witnessed many.

You are the worst kind of expert: a mis-informed arrogant expert. You are a danger to yourself and others because you really believe you are right.

What are you waffling about never 1 accident?????? you havent a clue what you are talking about!!! Advanced driving training?????? when???? where????? my father and uncle had UK licenses they never done advanced training!! you just making stuff up?????

What the f**k allows you to insult me??? you havent a clue who I am or what sort of driver I am!!!!

fletch

I have to say that I agree with everything Big_Nelly is saying.....it seems obvious that he is speaking from years of experience of driving. Its like the way when trucks are passing each other out, the truck being passed out will flash its headlights to indicate that the rear of the trucks has passed completely so the passing truck knows that it can move back in.(not in the ROTR, but every trucker will know about it)

el tel

There's all sorts of advanced driving you can do - both officially sanctioned or private. There's the IOM "advanced licence" for example.
In Germany I did a performance driving course on a vehicle test facility with skid pans and the like as well as race track. (Eddie Irvine was at the track that day as part of his Ferrari duties at the time - he heard my accent and came over for a chat!)

Big Nelly

el tel wrote:

There's all sorts of advanced driving you can do - both officially sanctioned or private. There's the IOM "advanced licence" for example.
In Germany I did a performance driving course on a vehicle test facility with skid pans and the like as well as race track. (Eddie Irvine was at the track that day as part of his Ferrari duties at the time - he heard my accent and came over for a chat!)

I know there is advanced driving....can do it for Garda and that but he was saying that years ago you had to do it and not "1" person crashed....which is pure bulls**t to me!!!

Big Nelly

fletch wrote:

I have to say that I agree with everything Big_Nelly is saying.....it seems obvious that he is speaking from years of experience of driving. Its like the way when trucks are passing each other out, the truck being passed out will flash its headlights to indicate that the rear of the trucks has passed completely so the passing truck knows that it can move back in.(not in the ROTR, but every trucker will know about it)

Also used to drive tractors in summer(still do) and when you have a 15ft or so long trailer on the back and someone is trying to pass out I used to give them a flash.....everyone knew what it meant!! I never had a problem with it!! was asking where people are from in original post because I found alot of Dublin people I know never knew of this.....seems to be a thing from the country!!!

Also for those saying about my driving....try reversing a 15-20ft long trailer with a full load and you cant see out the back through a gateway and back about 1000mtr without hitting anything!! how many can do it?? do that and then come back and talk to me!!

el tel

Big Nelly wrote:

I know there is advanced driving....can do it for Garda and that but he was saying that years ago you had to do it and not "1" person crashed....which is pure bulls**t to me!!!

Dudes, I'm not taking any sides here but maybe, apart from the flack that's flying, a few comments have been misconstrued.

When Shabbyroad stated:
Originally Posted by shabbyroad
Over 20 years driving here, UK, Europe and the USA. Advanced driving training done. Never 1 accident. Ever. I've witnessed many.

I took this to mean that HE had done advanced driving training and HE had never had an accident ever but had WITNESSED many as opposed to suggesting that advanced driving was compulsory and no accidents ever occurred.

Perhaps I'm off the ball completely here so ignore me if that's the case...