Who is authorised to stop motorists?

kub · 16-10-2013 10:20PM #1

I always thought that AGS were the only agency who had the authority to stop vehicle's. Can Customs & Excise / Revenue also stop a vehicle?

exaisle · 16-10-2013 10:27PM

Yes.

As can a person herding animals.....and a lollipop man/woman...

kub · 16-10-2013 11:17PM

exaisle wrote: »

Yes.

As can a person herding animals.....and a lollipop man/woman...

Of course I forgot my school days, so if Customs went and flagged someone down are they allowed to chase after them?

Thoie · 16-10-2013 11:21PM

Anytime I've seen customs out dipping, or social welfare doing checks, they're usually accompanied by the Gardaí. There's a spot on my way to work where they do big multiunion checkpoints from time to time. The gardaí usually check tax/insurance/NCT and pull people in, then customs/social welfare talk to them once they're stopped. I don't see customs chasing after people - I suspect they'd just take the car reg.

chocksaway · 16-10-2013 11:21PM

kub wrote: »

Of course I forgot my school days, so if Customs went and flagged someone down are they allowed to chase after them?

I would put it on the same boat as customs stopping you in the airport.. Don't stop and you're in for a world of hurt

goldie fish · 17-10-2013 02:24AM

Finance Act 2001.

134.—(1) An officer in uniform may stop any vehicle in order—

(a) that such officer, or any officer accompanying such officer, may exercise any power conferred on them by section 135 in relation to excisable products or any other products chargeable with a duty of excise, where there are reasonable grounds to believe that such products are being transported in or on such vehicle, or

(b) to examine and take samples of mineral oil under section 135 (2)(a).

(2) An officer in uniform or a member of the Garda Síochána may stop any vehicle for any purpose related to vehicle registration tax or the registration of vehicles in any of the registers established and maintained under Chapter IV of Part II of the Finance Act, 1992 .

(3) Any person in charge of a moving vehicle shall, at the request of an officer in uniform or a member of the Garda Síochána, stop such vehicle.

(4) Any person in charge of a vehicle shall, whether such vehicle has been stopped by an officer or member of the Garda Síochána under this section, or is already stationary, at the request of an officer or member of the Garda Síochána—

(a) keep such vehicle stationary for such period as is reasonably required to enable an officer or member to exercise any power conferred on such officer or member by section 135 , or

(b) where such vehicle is in the opinion of such officer or member situated in a place unsuitable for the exercise of any power conferred on such officer or member by section 135 , take such vehicle or cause it to be taken to such place as such officer or member may consider suitable for the exercise of such power.

135, 140 and 141 of the same act also apply.

Capri · 17-10-2013 10:29PM

goldie fish wrote: »

Finance Act 2001.

134.—(1) An officer in uniform may stop any vehicle in order—

(a) that such officer, or any officer accompanying such officer, may exercise any power conferred on them by section 135 in relation to excisable products or any other products chargeable with a duty of excise, where there are reasonable grounds to believe that such products are being transported in or on such vehicle, or

(b) to examine and take samples of mineral oil under section 135 (2)(a).

(2) An officer in uniform or a member of the Garda Síochána may stop any vehicle for any purpose related to vehicle registration tax or the registration of vehicles in any of the registers established and maintained under Chapter IV of Part II of the Finance Act, 1992 .

(3) Any person in charge of a moving vehicle shall, at the request of an officer in uniform or a member of the Garda Síochána, stop such vehicle.

(4) Any person in charge of a vehicle shall, whether such vehicle has been stopped by an officer or member of the Garda Síochána under this section, or is already stationary, at the request of an officer or member of the Garda Síochána—

(a) keep such vehicle stationary for such period as is reasonably required to enable an officer or member to exercise any power conferred on such officer or member by section 135 , or

(b) where such vehicle is in the opinion of such officer or member situated in a place unsuitable for the exercise of any power conferred on such officer or member by section 135 , take such vehicle or cause it to be taken to such place as such officer or member may consider suitable for the exercise of such power.

135, 140 and 141 of the same act also apply.

Can you imagine the amount of paper they'd save if the used PLAIN ENGLISH :P

goldie fish · 17-10-2013 10:36PM

Capri wrote: »

Can you imagine the amount of paper they'd save if the used PLAIN ENGLISH :P

Plain English is full of legal loopholes.

Capri · 21-10-2013 09:08PM

goldie fish wrote: »

Plain English is full of legal loopholes.

I know that :P , just wondering if the French / German /Italian legal systems have the same problems with their laws and interpretation of same

discus · 21-10-2013 10:20PM

Thankfully there are people who take a few years of their life to study the art of interpretting law from various angles, so we don't have to. In Ireland these are Gardai, Barristers, Solicitors and other legals professionals.

McCongo · 26-10-2013 04:59PM

discus wrote: »

Thankfully there are people who take a few years of their life to study the art of interpretting law from various angles, so we don't have to. In Ireland these are Gardai, Barristers, Solicitors and other legals professionals.

Gardai are legal professionals? Spend years studying the art of interpreting the law? When did this start?

goldie fish · 26-10-2013 07:01PM

McCongo wrote: »

Gardai are legal professionals? Spend years studying the art of interpreting the law? When did this start?

Some gardai have been doing it. Not all.

adam88 · 11-11-2013 01:10AM

exaisle wrote: »

Yes.

As can a person herding animals.....and a lollipop man/woman...

You must have recently done the driving course with a large state agency. Every class I say has that question asked

eoinkildare · 13-12-2013 05:52PM

Can the GSOC stop vehicles????
I'd love to take a chase from them

Technoprisoner · 13-12-2013 05:56PM

i think only certain members of revenue can stop a motorist. i could be wrong but remember reading somewhere that it states on their i.d if they are allowed to stop and search a vehicle

randy hickey · 13-12-2013 06:53PM

Did one of the first Signing Lighting And Guarding courses for setting up proper Traffic Management at roadworks a few years ago.
We were told the only entities that could legally stop traffic on a public road were:

1. Members of AGS.
2. School Crossing Wardens (Lollipop Person)
3. Farmers moving animals.
4. Traffic Management.

goldie fish · 13-12-2013 08:40PM

You were told wrong.

goldie fish · 13-12-2013 08:41PM

Technoprisoner wrote: »

i think only certain members of revenue can stop a motorist. i could be wrong but remember reading somewhere that it states on their i.d if they are allowed to stop and search a vehicle

Wrong. See post 6.

time lord · 16-12-2013 02:34AM

Authorised persons of local authorities enforcing the Waste Management Act 1996 can halt vehicles. (Not done in practice without the practical help of the Gardaí but still the staff are legally allowed stop vehicles and seize them too I think)

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