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Do you know how to use a pedestrican crossing correctly?

  • 07-12-2023 02:36PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,907 BronsonTB
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    Amazing the amount of pedestrians that don't know the correct way to use a marked pedestrian crossing.

    Some walk straight out or cross 5/6 meters before or after the crossing using the road instead of the actual crossing area.

    Is the safe cross code no longer thaught anymore?? Or just ignorance is the way now....

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    Do you know how to use a pedestrican crossing correctly? 81 votes

    Yes, Put one foot out to indicate your intention to cross, waiting until traffic has stopped before proceeding.
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    No, Always just walk straight out & hope for the best
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    No, Always stop & only enter the crossing when all traffic is stopped
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  • Yes, Put one foot out to indicate your intention to cross, waiting until traffic has stopped before proceeding.

    From what I see on the road every day, a lot of people here are not telling the truth :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,349 mikeecho
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    People know how to use it correctly, but choose not to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,184 Del2005
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    Never mind pedestrian crossings. The amount of pedestrians who walk across junctions without looking is crazy, the rules are the same for a junction as a pedestrian crossing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,041 Buffman
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    The 'rules' in this case are outdated and risky, as a pedestrian I'm not prepared to even risk my foot by sticking it out in front of traffic with the standard of driving/riding out there, so for me it's option 3. This is all about legal right of way, so I'm happy to 'yield' my right of way until some nice mannerly observant driver/rider stops for me without requiring me to stick any parts of my body out in front of them.

    As a driver, IMO it's fairly obvious when someone wants to cross, so I stop and let them cross if it's safe to do so.

    If anyone runs out in front of me unexpectedly, it'd get the exact same response, crossing or no crossing.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,661 nachouser
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    Yeah, no-one does option one. Ridiculous in this day and age.

    Option four should be "when it's your turn to cross, do you proceed past the front or the back of the car that is now blocking access to the entire crossing?"



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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,413 artanevilla
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    If you only ever learn one rule of the road when driving it is this:

    Always assume every other road user is out to kill you, themselves and everyone around you and them. Once you learn that rule, the driving experience is a lot easier.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 LastFridayNight
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    Straight from the rulebook:

    Vehicles do not have an automatic right of way on the road. The overriding rule is, in all circumstances, to proceed with caution.

    You must always yield to:

    • pedestrians already crossing at a junction;
    • pedestrians on a zebra crossing;
    • pedestrians on a pelican crossing when the amber light is flashing; and
    • pedestrians and traffic when you are moving off from a stationary position (for example from your position at a stop sign or a parking space).

    To avoid doubt and in the interest of road safety, a vehicle should always yield to pedestrians.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,831 AMKC
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    I do neither of them 3 options. When approaching a pedestrian crossing I just walk out as once you are on the crossing the vehicles are supposed to stop. Of course if I see the vehicle is going too fast or is just at the crossing I will not walk out in front of it unless I see the driver slowing down as they should be at pedestrian crossing anyway and are aware of me.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,232 BlueSkyDreams
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    Hardly any drivers stop at a pelican crossing when the amber traffic light/green pedestrian sign is flashing and a person is stood, waiting to cross.

    Car drivers invariably do not follow the rules here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,027 Everlong1
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    Sure this is Ireland FFS. Everybody knows we don't do rules and regulations because we're REBELS and we spent 800 years fighting oppression and we're only interested in the craic and don't be taking dem rules so fu*king seriously yada yada.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 TheSunIsShining
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    Doesn't a pedestrian establish right of way when they behind to cross at an uncontrolled junction??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,870 road_high
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    No, Always stop & only enter the crossing when all traffic is stopped

    I always walk up to them, pause/stop and make it obvious I wish to cross. It’s amazing the amount of oblivious drivers that speed through then completely unaware- there’s no way I’d risk crossing until sure both vehicles are stopped/stopping

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 878 Baba Yaga
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    this 100%...its what the old lad that sold me my first motorbike in around 1974/75 said to me,took it to heart and well im still here!


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    "You are him…the one they call the "Baba Yaga"…

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,179 BobMc
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    Yes, Put one foot out to indicate your intention to cross, waiting until traffic has stopped before proceeding.

    Never forget a runner one time as he running along never crossed my mind he was going to use crossing as he was on inside of path ran across the zebra crossing, managed to brake, but the dirty looks I got he never broke a stride !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,457 SharkMX
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    There are some rules of the road that are impossible to follow. The main one that come to mind is turning around the back of another right turning car at a junction or yellow box. 99% of the time the other driver doesnt move out far enough, so you have to do it wrong or the whole road gets held up.

    So since nobody ever does it you always approach the turn assuming you will be doing this the way you have always done it. So nobody bothers.

    Lots of other examples.

    Another one that really annoys me and is mostly done by women from what i have observed. You are turning right off the row and you cut the corner of the lane going the opposite direction on the road you are turning on to. Saw one person clipping a car that was stopped one day and then proceed to try to convince all of the witnesses that she was in the right. The other car was clearly stopped and on their side of the road. With a handy solid right angle line to help with the discussion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,019 Eoinbmw
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    How does a wheelchair user safely cross?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 Furze99
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    None of above really. Just size up the traffic and cross. Jay walking I think they call it some places, common sense I call it. Rarely use button of ped lights too, no point in holding up traffic when you've long gone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,771 Apiarist
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    No, Always just walk straight out & hope for the best

    Option 4: ask your squad mates to lay covering fire on oncoming enemy vehicles, then spring across the road in a zigzag pattern.

    Seriously though, pedestrians pay little attention to road rules in Ireland. I visited Budapest recently, and was surprised how pedestrians there would wait for the green light to cross the road even if there was absolutely no traffic coming from either direction.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,182 ELM327
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    You must always yield to:

    • pedestrians already crossing at a junction;
    • pedestrians on a zebra crossing;

    The italicisation is key here. Your requirement to yield does not begin until the pedestrian is either already crossing or already on the zebra section. STanding waiting on the path does not confer right of way or mandate the driver to stop. I only stop if people are on the crossing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,474 McGrath5
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    I am always very careful, a lot of motorists have a total disregard for pedestrian crossings. The amount that drive on through a red light is dreadful.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,131 callaway92
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    No, Always just walk straight out & hope for the best

    Interesting thread.

    I’m a driver but love walking too. The way motorist treat traffic lights with the flashing amber is beyond dangerous.

    It’s at the point now where when it switches from red to flashing amber, the foot goes down and they tear through with no consideration if there’s still a pedestrian crossing/just about to cross.

    What is the rule for red -> flashing amber? Get ready to go, or go if safe to do so? It still has a green flashing pedestrian when it’s happening so I assume pedestrians still have their right of way then.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,774 Uncle Pierre
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    Yes, Put one foot out to indicate your intention to cross, waiting until traffic has stopped before proceeding.

    That's a variation on the best piece of advice I got when I was learning to drive myself, a fair few years ago now:

    "Always assume everybody else is a f***ing eejit. But don't do anything yourself to make them think that you're one too."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,384 martingriff
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    No, Always stop & only enter the crossing when all traffic is stopped

    The next thread should be do you know how to use traffic lights. With the poll asking how many seconds after the light turns red can you still proceed



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 5,892 irish_goat
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    Interesting thread. Note, in the North (and Britain), pedestrians have priority at junctions and crossings i.e. drivers should yield to a pedestrian, whether they have started crossing or not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,034 Yeah Right
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    There's a whole laundry list of similar questions you could level at pretty much everyone who uses the road. Pedestrians are probably the least common offenders that motorists encounter. Other cars, vans and trucks cause way more hassle on a daily basis

    Do you know how to.......

    • use your indicators?
    • obey traffic lights?
    • not park on the path?
    • leave room for other road users?
    • use your lights correctly?
    • use a roundabout correctly?
    • use the correct lane?
    • maintain your vehicle properly?
    • leave yellow boxes empty?
    • not tailgate in bad weather?




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,620 Padre_Pio
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    Yes, Put one foot out to indicate your intention to cross, waiting until traffic has stopped before proceeding.
    1. Assume everyone else is an impatient idiot.
    2. Be as predictable as possible.
    3. Better to arrive late than take a risk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,201 RiderOnTheStorm
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    Yes, Put one foot out to indicate your intention to cross, waiting until traffic has stopped before proceeding.

    Spent the last 7 years as a professional driver (of sorts) and had my eyes opened. It seems that adults are the worst. I have seen (many times) an adult walk past the P Crossing and then 5 yards later they look up and run between the cars and give daggers if you dont wave them through . I reckon they think PC's are just for kids



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,785 Ezeoul
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    Yes, Put one foot out to indicate your intention to cross, waiting until traffic has stopped before proceeding.

    You forgot

    "keep staring at my phone and ignore every thing else and just step out wherever I like".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 TheSunIsShining
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    At uncontrolled junctions and crossings I'd imagine. Where there are lights, a pedestrian must obey the green/red man lights and they don't take priority over them....



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 922 65535
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    Yes, Put one foot out to indicate your intention to cross, waiting until traffic has stopped before proceeding.

    Not sure about your locality but here in Cork with MANY of the Pedestrian Crossings the paint has faded away and it's only because you know that it's there that you are aware.

    Furthermore - the zig zag common on UK and other Pedestrian crossings is missing here and cars/vans will park next to the crossing making it very difficult for motorists and pedestrians to see.

    Another difficulty I have enountered especially with people that are not from Ireland is the hump on the road with the triangle paint - some people seem to think that these painted speed bumps are pedestrian crossings !



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