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Lotto

  • 09-02-2005 9:51pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 341 ✭✭


    I dont know if there is many Boarders out there that do the lotto but i'll presume there is. Im just wondering if there is many of those that get a quickpick instead of picking your own numbers. I got a quickpick today and the numbers are a joke. I got 4 lines done and there was 18 in all the lines, 19 in two lines, 26 in three lines. I dont know now maybe im just being paranoid but those numbers i think are pretty bad. Its almost as if they dont want me to win!! Anyone else think this, or what are your opinions.


Comments

  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,679 Mod ✭✭✭✭Rew


    AFAIK quick picks win more often. The quickpicks are random as is the lottow draw itself. Peoples picks tend to be less random and if anything they will space their numbers evenly which dosnt really lend its self to random number draws. In saying that it is random so you chances arn't improved or reduced that much either way. :D:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Flukey


    Frankieboy, if you don't like the numbers they give you, pick your own.

    Also if the same number is coming up on several lines, that increases the amount of lines you can potentially win on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 888 ✭✭✭ranDom_tAsk


    i do it most of the time if i remember, i always do the €3 quick pick, if i done the same numbers all the time i might forget to do them and those numbers could come up :(:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,647 ✭✭✭impr0v


    I remember an article a few years ago about a machine spitting out two quick pick lines which were the exact same, without there being anything wrong with the machine. Obviously the odds are fairly high against this, and the temptation would be to demand a refund, but if the numbers came up, it would entitle you to two shares of the jackpot should anyone else get the same numbers.

    Personally I very rarely play it. I regard it as the cruellest tax of all, a tax on dreams, and one specifically aimed at those who need the dreams the most.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,711 ✭✭✭Dr. Dre


    Rew wrote:
    The quickpicks are random as is the lottow draw itself
    Random in as much as computers can be, that is ;)

    How much does it cost to do it these days?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭alleepally


    impr0v wrote:
    Personally I very rarely play it. I regard it as the cruellest tax of all, a tax on dreams, and one specifically aimed at those who need the dreams the most.

    Couldn't agree more, well said.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 341 ✭✭Frankieboy


    impr0v wrote:
    Personally I very rarely play it. I regard it as the cruellest tax of all, a tax on dreams, and one specifically aimed at those who need the dreams the most.


    Yes i like that statement. I kinda do it one week, then say its a waste of money, and say i wont waste my money anymore, but then i see something that i really like which i cant afford and think well this could be my day, i could win. by the way 4 lines with lotto plus costs €6.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Oriel


    I'd like to see the computer code behind the software installed it the lotto machines. I don't do the lottery very often, mainly because I don't trust myself to do it every week. If I did do it every week, I'd easily be able to pick 6 numbers which mean something to me.

    But... if I missed it for one week, and the numbers came up, I'd never be able to forgive myself. I'd spend the rest of my life going into work every morning thinking about where I could be instead...

    I spend about £1 every 2 months.
    S.


    just in case...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Flukey


    2 winners tonight. One in the west and one in the Northwest.


    Contrary to popular belief it is possible to get a computer to generate totally random numbers. There are Randomize and RND functions and such like, but they are only pseudorandom. It can be done by getting the modulus off the clock timer.

    While it may be a tax on foolishness, as I've heard it been called, I wouldn't mind winning it! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Flukey


    They are doing a special this weekend and you could win some diamonds.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,679 Mod ✭✭✭✭Rew


    Dr. Dre wrote:
    Random in as much as computers can be, that is ;)

    Pseudorandom, but still more random then a persons choices. :)

    As for the code behind the machines. Pretty simple stuff id say.
    for (int i = 0; i < 6; i++){
    lottoNum = random(seed, lowestLottoNum, highestLottoNum)
    }

    ;)

    You would think they would have a check to make sure that lines on a slip anrn't the same but I suppose they just thought it wouldn't happen.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Oriel


    Rew wrote:
    for (int i = 0; i < 6; i++){
    lottoNum = random(seed, lowestLottoNum, highestLottoNum)
    }

    Erm Rew, I'm talking more about the code behind the random procedure, not just basic computer programming.

    S.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,679 Mod ✭✭✭✭Rew


    sinecurea wrote:
    Erm Rew, I'm talking more about the code behind the random procedure, not just basic computer programming.

    S.
    Read what Flukey wrote and google a bit, there is nothing too mysterious about it. Code wise I doubt they wrote much more then the stuff I did there and just used the functions that were avaialable to them. Just coz its the lotto dosn't make it any diferant to the random stuff in any PC, X-Box, PS2, GBA etc. What would be more intresting is how the machines talk to lotto HQ ensuring the security of each transaction and tieing that back to the indvidual tickets. Must be a weakness in there some where ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,278 ✭✭✭kenmc


    impr0v wrote:
    Personally I very rarely play it. I regard it as the cruellest tax of all, a tax on dreams, and one specifically aimed at those who need the dreams the most.

    I call it a tax on stupidity. The odds are so astronomically high that it makes no sense to play it weekly. If you play it once a year you have about the same odds as someone who plays it every week, give or take a millionth here or there.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,647 ✭✭✭impr0v


    kenmc wrote:
    I call it a tax on stupidity. The odds are so astronomically high that it makes no sense to play it weekly. If you play it once a year you have about the same odds as someone who plays it every week, give or take a millionth here or there.....

    I used to be of the same opinion, but I don't think it's stupid to hope. I think the majority of people who play it on a regular basis realise that the odds are hugely stacked against them, but are also aware that the odds of them realising that sort of capital in any conventional way, if there is such a thing, are also astonomically high. They pay over their money every week, or twice a week, so that in between that time and the time that the draw is carried out they can feel that it just might, through some miracle, be possible.

    Of course the worst thing that could happen for many of them is to win it, and then learn the hard way that the old maxim about money not buying happiness is true.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,367 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    I always get QuickPicks when I buy Lotto tickets. I know my own luck, if I were to use the same numbers all the time, they'd come up some week when I hadn't bought a ticket! I probably do it a couple of times a month and usually when I'm more broke than usual. I see it as buying a dream for a few days...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,180 ✭✭✭samo


    2 weeks ago I did a €3 quickpick and got 5 numbers on the lotto and won €1261! (Was pretty close to the 6th number too!)

    Have only ever won anything with quickpicks and never with my own numbers but dont do the lotto that much anyway!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,842 ✭✭✭steveland?


    i do it most of the time if i remember, i always do the €3 quick pick, if i done the same numbers all the time i might forget to do them and those numbers could come up :(:)

    Yeh that's my biggest fear with the lotto :)

    If I do the lotto for twenty years i KNOW the one week I forget to do it my regular numbers would win....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 818 ✭✭✭idontknowmyname


    ever notice that the lotto is never ever won before a bank holiday!!! so fixed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,093 ✭✭✭woosaysdan


    i always do a quikpick but im not very consistant!!! i could be driving down the road and hear "and here are tonights lotto numbers" and i just go "ah fu ck"


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