Information on Importing tractor to republic

r77

Hi everyone, my first post.

I was looking at an old tractor in Northern Ireland with the view to buying it.
All in its €5,400, and I have a few questions regarding this.

1./ Does the dealer who sells this tractor have to hand me the log book as I am from
a different state, or does he have to send the logbook with my details to the people who
deal with this in the North or the republic, much like we do when we sell a car for instance, where we send off a transfer of ownership form with the new owners details.

2,/ Is there duty to be paid when I bring this tractor into the republic and if so what is the rate, is it a fixed fee or based on the value on the invoice, or do they value them by year of manufacture.

I am trying to bring in the tractor as cheaply as possible, so is there any benefit to bringing it
in as scrap, with no documents and then seeking to have it registered using the chassis number for instance.

Any help would be much appreciated

Thanks

ceekay74

r77 wrote: »

Hi everyone, my first post.

I was looking at an old tractor in Northern Ireland with the view to buying it.
All in its €5,400, and I have a few questions regarding this.

1./ Does the dealer who sells this tractor have to hand me the log book as I am from
a different state, or does he have to send the logbook with my details to the people who
deal with this in the North or the republic, much like we do when we sell a car for instance, where we send off a transfer of ownership form with the new owners details.

2,/ Is there duty to be paid when I bring this tractor into the republic and if so what is the rate, is it a fixed fee or based on the value on the invoice, or do they value them by year of manufacture.

I am trying to bring in the tractor as cheaply as possible, so is there any benefit to bringing it
in as scrap, with no documents and then seeking to have it registered using the chassis number for instance.

Any help would be much appreciated

Thanks

You'll have to contact the NCT because they register vehicles in the Republic. You do have to bring the log book to them.

r77

Thanks for the answer ceekay74, I found that the fee is a fixed on for tractors, at least according to the revenue website.

As regards paying the vat, I am not registered for vat, and according to the revenue I can
pay the vat when I purchase in northern Ireland, or here, this bothers me, as they mention in some cases you could end up paying it on both sides. Surely if I pay it in the north then that is the finish of it, we are in the eu after all and can only pay vat in the state we purchase in. Well other than VRT which is another form of tax, and illegal as far as am concerned, (double taxation, paying for the same thing twice, not on.)

Any comments on where I should pay the vat to keep me safe. not VRT, just the vat on the purchase price.


Thanks

9935452

r77 wrote: »

Thanks for the answer ceekay74, I found that the fee is a fixed on for tractors, at least according to the revenue website.

As regards paying the vat, I am not registered for vat, and according to the revenue I can
pay the vat when I purchase in northern Ireland, or here, this bothers me, as they mention in some cases you could end up paying it on both sides. Surely if I pay it in the north then that is the finish of it, we are in the eu after all and can only pay vat in the state we purchase in. Well other than VRT which is another form of tax, and illegal as far as am concerned, (double taxation, paying for the same thing twice, not on.)

Any comments on where I should pay the vat to keep me safe. not VRT, just the vat on the purchase price.


Thanks

You will also have to bring the tractor to the NCT centre as well to register it.
Regarding vat id say you will end up paying in the north as you dont have an irish vat number to not pay vat in the north. Though as we have a higher rate of vat here you might end up paying the difference here

r77

Thanks 9935452

VAT is meant to be paid to the state in which a transaction takes place, as usual the dictatorship that is the irish government want to rob us at every opportunity, now how can they justify charging value added tax on a product that was not purchased in Ireland, they can't, but they do, and how they firstly do it is by giving you the opportunity to pay it if the product is new, when a product is no longer new, they can not take vat off you if you bought it in a different state, so they created VRT, which they add on top of any vat they can get off you or as in my case they just charge the illegal VRT as I will be paying the vat in northern Ireland as I have no vat number, if this were a new purchase then the law once again demands that you register for vat, pay it, then de register, imagine how corrupt all this is, just to ensure you pay vat to the government for them to squander on the likes of irish water or pick up the tabs for denis o brien when he buys something for buttons and gets his debts dropped in the proceeds, which we the irish tax payer forks out for.

Anyway, I think am aware of the pitfalls now, and will proceed to the next step, though feel free to advise on the vat issue, just so I have the full picture.

Thanks all.

ceekay74

From revenue website...

VAT and Customs
When is VAT chargeable and payable?
For VAT purposes a new means of transport is a goods or passenger vehicle that meets either one of the following two criteria:

It is a new means of transport if it is a motor vehicle or motor-cycle (other than a tractor) supplied six months or less after the date of its first entry into service.
It is a new means of transport if it is a motor vehicle or motor-cycle (other than a tractor) that has travelled 6,000 kilometres or less at the time the vehicle is first presented for registration.
If the vehicle meets either of these criteria the vehicle is treated as a new means of transport for VAT purposes and VAT is chargeable at registration.

Note: In this context "entry into service" means registration in another jurisdiction. If not previously registered, the vehicle is new.

Example

Vehicle 5 months old with 8,000km - chargeable to VAT

Vehicle 7 months old with 5,000km - chargeable to VAT

Vehicle 7 months old with 8,000km - not chargeable to VAT

Note: The date of the vehicle's first entry into service (registration date) determines the age of the vehicle for VAT purposes. The mileage is the odometer mileage when first presented for registration in the State.

http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/vrt/vrt-guide.html#section6a

r77

Thanks ceekay74, position noted.