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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    He denied all charges:
    Considering the seven-odd other people in the operating room, he wrote, “any improprietous act on my part would be downright foolish . . .

    “As to trying to kiss the patient, remember we all wear masks.”

    http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/crime/article/1317006--dr-george-doodnaught-i-was-scared-he-may-do-something-to-me-if-i-said-i-wasn-t-all-right-patient-tells-sex-assault-trial

    He makes a reasonable defense, how would a surgeon manage to sexually abuse a patient with a full team in there with them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 718 ✭✭✭stmol32


    "the former was surgically removed, full hysterectomy while the latter was being shoved into her mouth "

    I'm presuming me and you are on the same page thinking this is a bit of a crap way of beginning a serious piece of journalism about a sex crime.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,968 ✭✭✭✭Praetorian Saighdiuir


    orestes wrote: »
    He denied all charges:



    http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/crime/article/1317006--dr-george-doodnaught-i-was-scared-he-may-do-something-to-me-if-i-said-i-wasn-t-all-right-patient-tells-sex-assault-trial

    He makes a reasonable defense, how would a surgeon manage to sexually abuse a patient with a full team in there with them?


    Taking turns?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Strawberry Fields


    I just think it's an hilarious story.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I just think it's an hilarious story.

    The alleged sexual assault of an incapacitated woman?

    Hilarious? Really?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,968 ✭✭✭✭Praetorian Saighdiuir


    Jesus this couldn't be true. If he was on his own with her then fine I could believe that. Not with other people in the room though, sure how the hell would he get away with that!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Strawberry Fields


    Yes but did it really happen?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    Candie wrote: »
    The alleged sexual assault of an incapacitated woman?

    Hilarious? Really?

    The Doctor's surname is Doodnaught.


    Ha. Haha.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 718 ✭✭✭stmol32


    I just think it's an hilarious story.

    Also a good viewpoint :D.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭ITS_A_BADGER


    Doodnaught was a caring and compassionate professional, “very touchy-feely.”
    there’s a difference between being touchy-feely and sticking your penis in somebody’s mouth.

    ah here, that was their defence?, hes a touchy feely doctor :rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    I just think it's an hilarious story.

    The guy is an anesthesiologist being charged of sexually abusing over 20 women after he had clinically incapacitated them.

    Either he's guilty, and has taken advantage of women in one of the most disgusting ways possible and has severely damaged these womens lives, or he is innocent and his career and reputation are still pretty much tarnished forever.

    Hardly hilarious either way.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    orestes wrote: »
    He makes a reasonable defense, how would a surgeon manage to sexually abuse a patient with a full team in there with them?

    He's an anaesthetist, there was a screen obstructing the woman's view of her lower body, presumably because she'd had an epidural anaesthetic and sedation instead of a general anaesthetic.

    They, apparently, could not see what was occurring at the top end of the operating table, preoccupied with removing both her uterus and a blockage “the size of a child’s head” that had become adhered to internal organs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭3rdDegree


    Candie wrote: »

    The alleged sexual assault of an incapacitated woman?

    Hilarious? Really?

    It just sounds implausable. Memory can be very subjective at the best of times, but under drugs, it is downright unreliable. No matter, the doctor's life is ruined.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    3rdDegree wrote: »
    It just sounds implausable. Memory can be very subjective at the best of times, but under drugs, it is downright unreliable. No matter, the doctor's life is ruined.




    I hope its not true, if it is then those complaints are probably the tip of the iceberg. He can't be struck off if he's cleared, although obviously the damage is beyond just professional.


    If it is true, and those 20 criminal complaints of serious sexual assault aren't just malicious and bizarrely detailed and similar lies, over many years, some of which the hospital had prior knowledge of, but withheld from the police, then I hope he's flung in the clink and kept there forever.

    Sexual assault is never funny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,034 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Candie wrote: »
    bizarrely detailed and similar lies
    If someone thinks about something a lot and needs to testify or describe it to someone repeatedly, then it is plausible that one's imagination is reinforced to include details which are not necessarily correct. As to "similar" - I would imagine that there are a very finite number of similar scenarios for which one could mistake a medical procedure (if any, indeed).

    It's not that I don't believe that there are people in the Dr.'s position who would do this - I just find it hard to fathom him getting away with it with an entire team in the room - no matter how focused they might have been on what was going on with the woman's lower half.

    What sort of effect do the drugs used usually have?


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ficheall wrote: »
    If someone thinks about something a lot and needs to testify or describe it to someone repeatedly, then it is plausible that one's imagination is reinforced to include details which are not necessarily correct. As to "similar" - I would imagine that there are a very finite number of similar scenarios for which one could mistake a medical procedure (if any, indeed).

    It's not that I don't believe that there are people in the Dr.'s position who would do this - I just find it hard to fathom him getting away with it with an entire team in the room - no matter how focused they might have been on what was going on with the woman's lower half.

    What sort of effect do the drugs used usually have?


    Its certainly possible he's innocent and that's for the court to decide. 20 accusations of a similar nature, over a period of time, suggests there is a case to answer.

    If twenty men made accusations of a similar nature against one woman, I would think that woman had a case to answer. I wouldn't start questioning the men's perceptions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,158 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    3rdDegree wrote: »
    It just sounds implausable. Memory can be very subjective at the best of times, but under drugs, it is downright unreliable. No matter, the doctor's life is ruined.

    Still not seeing any hilarity at all

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Zen65


    Ficheall wrote: »
    It's not that I don't believe that there are people in the Dr.'s position who would do this - I just find it hard to fathom him getting away with it with an entire team in the room - no matter how focused they might have been on what was going on with the woman's lower half.

    That's the dilemma, isn't it? Without a doubt there are evil people in medicine (and all professions) capable of perpetrating such an act, but equally there are known side-effects of drugs and illnesses which can cause people to believe that unspeakable things are happening to them. I have seen this happen myself when visiting a patient who complained that a male nurse was touching her inappropriately when all he was doing was putting a drip into her arm. It almost suggests that all medical interventions should be filmed, but then again that also can be considered to be an invasion of rights.


    Z


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,034 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Candie wrote: »
    Its certainly possible he's innocent and that's for the court to decide. 20 accusations of a similar nature, over a period of time, suggests there is a case to answer.

    If twenty men made accusations of a similar nature against one woman, I would think that woman had a case to answer. I wouldn't start questioning the men's perceptions.

    Oh, I agree that there's definitely a case to answer.

    And I wasn't so much questioning the women's perceptions as your suggestion that their descriptions were "bizarrely detailed and similar". Of course, the entire case is a bit bizarre, so...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    That has to be the worse title ever. I thought this was going to be some ground breaking news on female to male gender assignment.


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