Loss of sovereignty

liammur

Can't see what all the fuss is about. We vote for corrupt cronies time and time again. 4 out of every 5 years since independence FF have been in power. Voting for 'heroes' like Haughey/Burke/Ahern/Lawlor.

I for one don't feel ashamed/humiliated or sad that the IMF are in.

I do however, feel for the people caught up in this dreadful mess the likes of ahern selfishly created.

Monty Burnz

I'm finding it quite embarrassing. I work outside Ireland and it gets quite old hearing the Irish being the butt of jokes from people from various European countries.

Also some elements of the British press are lapping this up. This is as embarrassed as I've been since the IRA blew up those two small children in Warrington in '93.

CrankyCod

The most embarrassing aspect is the knowledge that Fianna Fail and the inept opposition are truly representative of the people: I remember questioning the wisdom of SSIAs being paid out when we had shambolic health and education systems and people looked at me as if I was an alien, the idea of money for nothing was seen as an entitlement by then.

The Fianna Fail traitors have done more damage than the crowd who voted for the Act of Union, but nobody pretended that Grattan's Parliament represented anyone but the rich.

koura

Is this the end of The Republic.
Can FF still call itself The Republican Party.

universeo

Even when we finally kick out this disgusting government, won't the same imbecilic civil servants that advised the government be still hanging around?:mad:

liammur

Monty Burnz wrote: »

I'm finding it quite embarrassing. I work outside Ireland and it gets quite old hearing the Irish being the butt of jokes from people from various European countries.

Also some elements of the British press are lapping this up. This is as embarrassed as I've been since the IRA blew up those two small children in Warrington in '93.

It is probably embarrassing for those living in other countries alright. But we are better off with others running the country.

jimmycrackcorm

Monty Burnz wrote: »

I'm finding it quite embarrassing. I work outside Ireland and it gets quite old hearing the Irish being the butt of jokes from people from various European countries.

Also some elements of the British press are lapping this up. This is as embarrassed as I've been since the IRA blew up those two small children in Warrington in '93.

I wouldn't be embarrassed in front of the Germans or The British - I'd be asking them why their banks aren't absorbing the losses from their speculative lending to Irish banks.

PeterIanStaker

Funny how the papers are farting on about loss of sovereignity/independence, when sovereignity/independence is something they usually continually rail against. Panicky rats.

liammur

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

I wouldn't be embarrassed in front of the Germans or The British - I'd be asking them why their banks aren't absorbing the losses from their speculative lending to Irish banks.

They'd simply tell you, no one asked them to.

Nice work B Lenihan.

later12

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

I wouldn't be embarrassed in front of the Germans or The British - I'd be asking them why their banks aren't absorbing the losses from their speculative lending to Irish banks.

They would probably say 'screw you', tell you that they themselves are absorbing the losses.