Awake and aware conference Sept 09.

mysterious

ALEX COLLIER at the Project Camelot Awake and Aware Conference, Los Angeles, Sept 2009


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR46QjXjLH0

Have a peep of this.

studiorat

That's Ralph Amagran. The aliens got to him years ago and brain washed him they made him change his name and now he's spreading dis-information about benevolent aliens among us.

Basically he's a flase flag operation for the lizzzzards because they are trying to take over the world and only the US government can save us from them. We must form a NWO to protect ourselves from lizzzards taking our jobs and our women.

IrelandSpirit

Interesting, yep, I watched that vid before - been following project camelot for a couple of years now - and I don't know what to make of him, though I reckon Bill & Ryan are genuine in their efforts to inform. Information, what we do with it is our choice...

BTW, just watched this from their site, Dr Rauni Kilde, the Finnish former Chief Medical Officer for Lapland:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=185HKE2c5Gg

Diogenes

IrelandSpirit wrote: »

BTW, just watched this from their site, Dr Rauni Kilde, the Finnish former Chief Medical Officer for Lapland:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=185HKE2c5Gg

Do you even make the remotest attempt to check these people out?

Dr Rauni Kildewas a provincial medical officer in Finnish Lapland Province with a doctorate in medicine from 1975 until a car accident in 1986, which took away her ability to continue her work and career. Since then she has been best known for her UFO contacts and related thoughts. She likes to advertise her former title, but often she rather calls herself a former Chief Medical Officer of Finland and uses other questionable titles as well.

Theres more here, including

Kilde is the author of another article, "My 100 Encounters with Space Aliens," in which she claims that extraterrestrials have saved her life three times. An alien administered first aid to her after she was involved in an automobile accident, she says. The treatment saved her damaged liver from hemorrhaging and saved her life. In a second accident, she fell off a motorbike that she was driving. The bike almost landed on her, but it was deflected by a force field, she says. In the third incident, a force field deflected an elk that had jumped onto the road in front of her car

http://ufoexperiences.blogspot.com/2005_11_01_ufoexperiences_archive.html


:rolleyes:

namloc1980

mysterious wrote: »

ALEX COLLIER at the Project Camelot Awake and Aware Conference, Los Angeles, Sept 2009


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR46QjXjLH0

Have a peep of this.

Ok watced the first few minutes of this but after that it got into the realm of scifi plus youtube started acting up and the video stopped. Anyway Mr.Collier seems like an intelligent guy if very paranoid. In the first few minutes he tells us that the 'Andromedans' have told Alex that:

- information from the Cassini mission is being classified because the pictures allegedly show spaceships in the Saturnian system :eek:. Now there is no evidence to support this claim at all and if Alex went here you can view every raw image taken by Cassini. Please feel free to sarch for spaceships.

- There is a 20mile wide spaceship over our South Pole at a distance of 1.5million km. Now if this was the case any amateur anstronomer in the Southern Hemisphere would easily be able to see this with a reasonable scope. Made up stuff I suspect.

Now let's look at some previous claims Alex has made about what the Andromedans have told him. Fo example from 1997:

"Seven hand-held laser weapons built by your government were stolen from a secret military post, and are in the hands of Chinese and Islamic groups of hate." Mmmmm baseless assertion and no one can prove this either way however given that these weapons haven't been used by the Islamists in the last 12 years it's a good bet that these don't exist

"In the next 4 rotations (years), at least one of your planet countries population will be devastated by bio-weapons". False

"Two of your nations will be destroyed, due to nuclear weapons, in the same 4 rotations (years)". Didn't happen. False

"In the next 6 rotations (years) of your planet, you will experience great shortages of water not harmful to your physicality". Water shortages in certain areas of the world have always been there and always will. Hardly a great insight from our intergalactic friends

"Please look for your Red China country to use its military to seize control of natural resources of its neighboring countries" made up and false

"Much of the surface soil used for your farming in the next 4 rotations will grow nothing at all, and will be dead for a period of nine years." false

"Please come to expect that many of your planet's non-human species in the surface and on the surface, will be leaving your world in great numbers". If anyone can confirm that we had mass emigration of aliens please do so!

"By your rotations of 6 years, many of your nations on your surface will surrender the sovereignty of their people to regressive form of government, in order to eat and drink, only because of the lack of resolve amongst your Terran races to become more self-reliant. The laziness will be their own internment". Hasn't happened. False


"Your government is secretly preparing plans to move its location inland, close to fresh water". Made up and I'd wager no evidence to support this assertion

"The planetary release in the rotations of seven to eight years of crops which will grow most anywhere will feed most of your populations". What's this all about? Some super crop that can feed the planet!! False

"If unchecked monopolies, as your call them, will control all facets of your lives by the time of 6 rotations. You and your Terran races will lose all ability of self-reliance. You will become more a natural resource, and it will be so acknowledged" Extreme paranoia here

"The artificial and deliberate melting of glaciers will continue to occur, but openly, as your (period of) 5 rotations comes (to pass)." Hardly a secret that the glaciers/ice is melting. Doesn't take an alien to tell us this

"The functionally intellectually incapable beings on your planet as reached 63% of your Terran races. We thought you should know this". So 63% of the human population is intellectually incapable. Cheers Alex

Why does Alex continue to listen to these guys when they are plainly wrong in what they say/predict? Paranoia and the chance to make a few bob from selling books/doing lecture tours I'd wager.

namloc1980

namloc1980 wrote: »

Why does Alex continue to listen to these guys when they are plainly wrong in what they say/predict? Paranoia and the chance to make a few bob from selling books/doing lecture tours I'd wager.

Ah but you see "rotation" could mean a Jupiter year or Saturn year.
So 4 of them could be 44-120 years.
And if that don't work there's always Neptune and Uranus

That makes it all nice and falsifiable.

namloc1980

King Mob wrote: »

Ah but you see "rotation" could mean a Jupiter year or Saturn year.
So 4 of them could be 44-120 years.
And if that don't work there's always Neptune and Uranus

That makes it all nice and falsifiable.

Yeah I was thinking that but on the website they have:

Note: (a 'rotation', as described, is in our terms a 'year')

but I suspect that as you say it's a moveable feast and that rotation could actually mean anything to fit into the 'theory'!