"Man found dead in Cork may have been shot" - RTE News losing the plot???

danindublin

The headline "Man found dead in Cork may have been shot" has been showing on the RTE news website since early morning. I was of the opinion that RTE was a more informed/serious news provider than to produce a headline and story like this. Is the method so important that it requires such speculation around it?

A post mortem examination is expected to confirm that he was shot.

- Surely even a lay man would be able to verify whether someone was shot rather than waiting for the outcome of a post mortem (which I know is a requirement).

Maybe I've just blown this out of proportion!

tbh

wasn't there something in this forum recently that was slating RTE because it published a story that was later found to be false? If there wasn't, it was because they follow procedures. Also, maybe they can't confirm it 'till the families are told or something like that.

hamsterboy

It is a bad phrasing alright, though it is just the way they have always worded things so as to leave an escape route in case they're wrong an dit was just a roumer.
What IS remarkable is that Newstalk have been reporting since midday that a leaked HSE document stated that they are seeking 1000 redundencies in front line staff this year and NOTHING from RTE or anybody else.
Could it be that Newstalk was the only recipients of this damning leak a day before the election media blackout or have RTE recieved it and are ignoring it (or being told to :eek: )

flogen

hamsterboy wrote:

It is a bad phrasing alright, though it is just the way they have always worded things so as to leave an escape route in case they're wrong an dit was just a roumer.
What IS remarkable is that Newstalk have been reporting since midday that a leaked HSE document stated that they are seeking 1000 redundencies in front line staff this year and NOTHING from RTE or anybody else.
Could it be that Newstalk was the only recipients of this damning leak a day before the election media blackout or have RTE recieved it and are ignoring it (or being told to :eek: )

This showed up in my RSS feed to RTÉ News at around ten to two.

Not sure what the deal is with the story referenced by the OP - maybe the man had sustained a number of injuries including gunshot wounds and the post mortem was to see what actually killed him (although that wouldn't explain why they said he may have been shot). Or maybe RTÉ News hasn't been given anything solid by Gardaí etc. and just heard a rumour that he was shot (which would explain the "may have been shot" thing).

I'm willing to with the latter as they're still saying "it is believed that he was shot" - maybe the Gardaí are remaining tight-lipped but a shooting is the talk of the town.

santosubito

Sometimes people have wounds that could either be a gunshot or a knife. You can't tell from a cursory examination: it takes a full PM to establish cause of death. Sounds like RTE were told by a source: "It looks as if he was shot, but we won't be sure..."
I remember there was something similar in Dublin a few moths ago.

jb91

tbh wrote:

wasn't there something in this forum recently that was slating RTE because it published a story that was later found to be false? If there wasn't, it was because they follow procedures. Also, maybe they can't confirm it 'till the families are told or something like that.

Yeah. Anne opened the Nine O'Clock News with "The Progressive Unionist Party leader David Ervine has just died". Then they did an obituary and spoke to his colleagues live. Then they went on with the bulletin.

At about 9.30, Anne could neither confirm nor deny his death :rolleyes:. He died a few days later.

tbh

jb91 wrote:

Yeah. Anne opened the Nine O'Clock News with "The Progressive Unionist Party leader David Ervine has just died". Then they did an obituary and spoke to his colleagues live. Then they went on with the bulletin.

At about 9.30, Anne could neither confirm nor deny his death :rolleyes:. He died a few days later.

thats the one, thanks jb, that was wrecking my head

mike65

They could simply have talked of an apparently violent death and left it at that, but alas thats not good enough these days we need guns and gore it seems.

re that HSE story - RTE are refering to it only "as broken on radio news earlier today" or similair. I guess it would kill them to mention Newstalk by name.

Mike.

Tha Gopher

Unlike sky and most of the papers RTE does seem to hold restraint and seemingly take stories from official sources, ggenerally speaking. Compare it to Sky the night after Liverpool V Chelsea in Anfield. A private plane heading down south crashed that night. Though i didnt see the coverage myself throughout the night Sky was hinting with no evidence at all that Abramovich and Mourhinio had been killed (hey, its a match night, a private plane on its way to London, oul Sherlock Holmes has cracked it boy). Im suprised they hadnt claimed the Russian mafia had been seen in the area with rocket launchers because Roman somehow ****ed them over.

unfedfish

Tha Gopher wrote:

Unlike sky and most of the papers RTE does seem to hold restraint and seemingly take stories from official sources, ggenerally speaking. Compare it to Sky the night after Liverpool V Chelsea in Anfield. A private plane heading down south crashed that night. Though i didnt see the coverage myself throughout the night Sky was hinting with no evidence at all that Abramovich and Mourhinio had been killed (hey, its a match night, a private plane on its way to London, oul Sherlock Holmes has cracked it boy). Im suprised they hadnt claimed the Russian mafia had been seen in the area with rocket launchers because Roman somehow ****ed them over.

....or that "it is not yet known whether or not there was any terrorist involvement...." sky like to throw in the 'T' word wherever possible to get the auld pulses racing...excitement!

with regards to the rte 'man may have been shot' just confirms the old newsie saying 'if it bleeds,it leads'

Victor

mike65 wrote:

re that HSE story - RTE are refering to it only "as broken on radio news earlier today" or similair. I guess it would kill them to mention Newstalk by name.

I think it was 98FM did the same thing to the RTE exit poll. Plagiarismed the lot of it and didn't attribute anything.