Warning: Orrick "Marketing Solutions" Dont waste your time

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Hey folks,
Just a word of warning, there's a company calling themselves Orrick Marketing Solutions running out of 27 capel st. in Dublin. Seriously, dont even bother with this company. They're a profit share company/Pyramid scheme company. I've being looking for work (and thankfully found work this week starting Monday) and got in contact with these guys as the job description seemed great for entry level work and promotion prospects. Anywho long story short, I went out for an "on the job assesment" not really knowing what marketing solutions is. Their definition of marketing solutions is door to door sales where their "training manager/mentor" feeds you a load of **** to make you think this is the greatest company ever. I knew something was up but couldnt find any info on them bar their website. That is until I found out the name of their founder, Jamie Orrick, and typed it into google. Lets just say the name brought up alot of words like Fraud, and scam. They've being doing this in the states for years under different guises with the same result. Anywho, I'm glad I saw through them but there seems to be alot of people working for them that either a) dont see through them or b) are soleless enough to make money out of pyramid schemes while destroying people lower then them. I've just mailed Jobs.ie where I found the job, I'm hoping they'll ban them and other companies like them. There should be a vetting process really. Is there anyone else I should get in contact with that will take action against these scumbags? Anyway, I hope I've helped some people with my babbling .
Later,
Dave

Ciaran187

Hey,

Thanks for the heads up! Just got a call from them yesterday. Same as yourself, I was drawn in by entry level with great promotion prospects. I was told a load of rubbish about being management with 10 people under me within 6 weeks. I think this thread needs to appear on google a bit more obvious so excuse me while I put a few other terms in here:

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I found the position on jobs.ie, so they haven't banned them. I thought this thread needs to get more attention so please, everyone, post links to this page, or if you REALLY want to help, search for this post in google and open the link (This will help to bring it up to the top of the results).

nesf

Don't post up contact details of the company, and please don't spam this thread with replies "just to raise it's google ranking". Anyone who just wants details of DS Max etc, needs to only google it and they will find plenty of negative material.

Ciaran187

Appologies for that. When I was given the interview I searched for google for Orrick Marketing Solutions and only happened by chance to stumble accross this post. I just wanted to make it easier for people to find info on them so they don't fall into the same trap as me and the topic creator. Didn't mean to spam up your board.

edit: Only mentioned DS-MAX because it's the same company as Orrick Marketing Solutions and as you said, they have plenty of info on them on google.

flash harry

what are they doing thats wrong?? did i miss something?

Ciaran187

They're a pyramid scheme company. They get lots of young entry level staff to go in promising very quick (6 weeks) promotion to management. What they actually do is split up the group of new recruits and bundle each of them into a car with two motivators who tell you how great the company is, how much money they are getting, how quick you get promoted etc etc etc. These groups go shop to shop and bar to bar with suitcases selling products to the staff. They sell everything from kids puzzles to buckets of nails to make-up. They pay these staff very poorly until they bring in others to do their job, then they move up and earn more money. It's pure pyramid scheme.

flash harry

ah ok, got you - thanks

nesf

Well, legally speaking it's not a pyramid scheme. You are never asked to hand over money, only your time and effort and in reality if you are good at sales you can make ok money doing it. It's more the extremely high staff turnover and lack of benefits etc that is the problem, but if you are willing to work despite this then it's your problem not their's tbh.

Ciaran187

The other problem with them is the lies you are told to get you into the company. If you know a few arabs that need some sand, then you'll move up and start earning the money, but if they told people they were going shop to shop with cases of toys to sell them instead of telling them (as I was told) within 6 weeks you'll have 10 staff under you, with a guarenteed 35K, blah blah blah. Everything you'll have, you "have the potential to" have. THAT's what got me!

nesf

Ciaran187 wrote:

The other problem with them is the lies you are told to get you into the company. If you know a few arabs that need some sand, then you'll move up and start earning the money, but if they told people they were going shop to shop with cases of toys to sell them instead of telling them (as I was told) within 6 weeks you'll have 10 staff under you, with a guarenteed 35K, blah blah blah. Everything you'll have, you "have the potential to" have. THAT's what got me!

Take it as an important lesson in life. Never believe a salesman's pitch in its entirety. Potentially the above may occur, but it's not likely.

Ciaran187

Kind of funny when you think about it. A "marketing" company marketing themselves. If they put that much effort into real marketing, they'd be quite good at it!

nesf

Ciaran187 wrote:

Kind of funny when you think about it. A "marketing" company marketing themselves. If they put that much effort into real marketing, they'd be quite good at it!

The fact that they still exist after so many years would indicate that they do.

J.S. Pill

nesf wrote:

Take it as an important lesson in life. Never believe a salesman's pitch in its entirety. Potentially the above may occur, but it's not likely.

bang on!

I remember answering an extremely vague add for a 'marketing and promotions' company in Cork a couple years back (out of desparation more than anythign else). I was called for an 'interview' which, as was the case with OP, was just the usual speil about how great the palce is and how fast paced, dynamic....blah blah etc. Throughout the interview I kept trying to ask this bloke what exactly I'd be doing, each time he'd move on to what I could be doing in a few short months if I played my cards right. I eventually forced it out of him: I'd be doing door to door sales but in a few months I'd be climbing the ladder...and so forth.

I think the company in question went belly up

Also, when I was living in Dublin I accidently got roped into a cold calling job through a recruitment agency - ordinarily I would have walked away the second I found out it was cold calling but I stuck it out for a few days purely for the life experience and I don't regret it at all!

I feel I've learned from my experiences, not only can I smell a rat from a mile away but I can always console myself knowing that no matter how sh1t my job, is there are always people much much worse off.

Poppy84

there not the only company there are a few like em, any ads in the classified section with "red bull attitutde" or claiming they are embassedors for Disney or Crayola, thats them, I went for a interview with one of these in Waterford.

The description of the position to what it actually was was far from the truth. I got called back the next day to go on a day with one of their "training managers sent from Dublin" yeh right, she was none of these. So we ended up going to clonmel, still not much coming clear on the position I was simply told that we were going to meet their "clients. We met up with a couple of others had a cup of tea while the "trainer" was in the bathroom one of the guys explained the situation. you go around the streets calling into every premisies pubs, shops, offices trying to sell the contents of your large black bag on wheels. Im sure you have seen these people all dolled up in the suits with the black back full of bits and pieces. Anyway in his own words he called them "glorified tinkers" (no offense ment just saying what the employee said).

So imagine this me all dolled up in a suit expecting to be going to meetings and observing instead walking the lenght and breath of Clonmel in a pair of heels, to make things worse she drove so i couldnt get back to waterford. Eventually I said I was going back to the car cos my feet where blistered.

It was the most humiliating thing I have ever been involved in, this one was so cheeky she went through a factory that specifically stated visitors go to reception, and started pitching to the workers.....she got escorted off the premises!

Im glad OP posted this post as there are a few companies like these out there so just beware when reading the classifieds and keep an eye out for these scammers..

in my belief its companies like this that give Marketing a bad name!!!!

J.S. Pill

Poppy84 wrote:

in my belief its companies like this that give Marketing a bad name!!!!

Did it ever have a good name??

thlboard

Is this the same company?! I have an interview with them today!

http://www.omsmktg.com/

LimeFruitGum

thlboard wrote: »

Is this the same company?! I have an interview with them today!

http://www.omsmktg.com/

A quick google of the phone number on the website would suggest that it is. That crowd have been around for years under various different names.

Years ago, when I was temping, I went along to this for the laugh. I had heard of it and had absolutely no intention of actually working for them but I wanted to see it for myself.

Unless you make a complete hames of the interview, you will certainly be moved into the next round, which is shadowing a team for a day.
Man, it was funny how they were trying to hype up a trip to the Midlands as some cutting-edge business opportunity. We also had to watch some corporate video, which tells you absolutely nothing about the company, apart from how awesome it is, of course.

Basically, we were lugging bags of pound shop cack around Temple Bar, trying to flog it to bored office workers. They really weren't selling anything you couldn't buy in Carrolls, Lidl or the 2 Euro shops.
By mid-afternoon, I was just like 'ah feck this' , managed to lose the group and legged it. You'd have to be completely desperate to want to pursue this thing any further and as for opportunities? It is the people still left who get promoted by default because everyone else in their intake left.

There is no marketing involved whatsoever, just hard-necked door-knocking. Given the quality of products, I don't think the commission would be great either!

If you're bored, go along for the laugh, but don't even think of working there. :-)

chappy

I got roped into this crowd(same address,different name) 10 years ago when I was 16.Was one of the first "interviews" I had ever done.Turned up in the whole business attire and after 15 minutes was sent on a bus with my "mentor" with a suitcase out to the industrial estates in Blanch doing door to door sales.I was mortified but being a kid stuck it out for a good 5 hours.When I told the guy with me I wanted to leave he started giving me a load of bull about thinking I wanted to be successful and all this.

The worst part was when I walked off and eventually found a bus stop to bring me home the little p*rick had robbed my purse so had no bus fare.Ended up poring my heart out to the bus driver who obviously felt sorry for me and let me on for free.

They are completely preying on people who want to work.Worst experience of an "interview" and I wouldn't recommend anybody to even go for a laugh.
These people should definately be shut down!!!

rightwingdub

Ah yes Orrick Marketing I worked for them a few years ago for a couple of months selling crap going around business 2 business, after a couple of month I got fed up and didn't show up, I texted my "team leader" and told him I wasn't coming back, he didn't even respond. Does anyone ever remember a bold headed guy called Gareth Brennan?

52_

Hello people

i have had a call off the company called Orrick Marketing Solutions. They have asked me to come in for a interview in the next couple of days. The company website is http://www.orrickmarketing.com/ apart from this being the worst website i have seen are these people the fraud and waste of time people i have been reading about on this blog? I look forward to hearing from someone quickly so i can make my mind up to go ahead or not.

And does anyone have any names i should avoid??

Thanks alot

This is the company in leeds on the phone number [removed]

hannah.ol

DO NOT GO! I was asked for the interview 2 days ago and to come to a 'shadowing day' where you get the chance to meet 'clients'. I read this thread when i got home, i was a bit suspicious so i rang to ask them straight "will i be cold selling, as in door to door, because if so i am definitely not interested" the secretary replied that i would not and to come in as planned and the manager would explain everything.

So foolishly i went along, he explained nothing! they put us on a bus to the middle of nowhere to knock on doors selling crap. I just got on the next bus back to Leeds and told them it was a complete waste of my time. Especially since i specifically asked and they lied about the role.

In short, do not bother!