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Eircom eFibre VDSL/FTTC rollout – plans to reach 1.6m premises by mid 2016

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    #932
    Shyboy
    Registered Users Posts: 536 ✭✭✭Shyboy


    If an exchange is a Node Reach Site, does that mean anything to end users in the long run?


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    #933
    pm.
    Registered Users Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭pm.


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    Not dreaming at all, see

    http://www.nextgenerationnetwork.ie/eircom-fibre-network

    But Moyvore is not due an upgrade save perhaps to ADSL2

    Hi SB thanks for the reply but what exactly is ADSL2 ? what speeds could I expect


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    #934
    red_bairn
    Registered Users Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭red_bairn


    pm. wrote: »
    Hi SB thanks for the reply but what exactly is ADSL2 ? what speeds could I expect
    12.0 Mbit/s


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    #935
    pm.
    Registered Users Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭pm.


    Thanks Red is there a distance limit the speeds can be guaranteed to reach im about 5 kms away from the exchange and can only get 3mbs atm


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    #936
    lucernarian
    Registered Users Posts: 9,235 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    ADSL2 and ADSL2+ (what eircom use) would both probably give you about 4.


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    #937
    Shyboy
    Registered Users Posts: 536 ✭✭✭Shyboy


    pm. wrote: »
    Thanks Red is there a distance limit the speeds can be guaranteed to reach im about 5 kms away from the exchange and can only get 3mbs atm

    I'm 5km away from mine and can only get 1MB:(


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    #938
    lucernarian
    Registered Users Posts: 9,235 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    Some lines around the 5km or so mark are put onto a max speed of 1 mbit based on the prequalification measurement of line distance etc. Even if the line can do more and even if the DSLAM itself says that the attainable speed is higher, eircom will refuse to increase speed beyond 1024/128 kbps. There are threads about this disgrace on the Talk to: eircom forum. But ADSL2+ won't really change that beyond letting a line with a max speed of 3 mbps to connect at near 4 mbps instead. Eircom do not change this prequal limit even on exchanges which are ADSL2+ enabled.


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    #939
    red_bairn
    Registered Users Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭red_bairn


    pm. wrote: »
    Thanks Red is there a distance limit the speeds can be guaranteed to reach im about 5 kms away from the exchange and can only get 3mbs atm

    I think you are limited by distance from and exchange and the cabinet. But if you end up getting FTTC to a cabinet near you, then it would be the distance from the cabinet to your house.

    There is a cabinet about 600 - 800m away from my house (top of the housing estate) and we would get 25Mb from that service when FTTC arrives...


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    #940
    Gaynna
    Closed Accounts Posts: 44 ✭Gaynna


    red_bairn wrote: »
    I think you are limited by distance from and exchange and the cabinet. But if you end up getting FTTC to a cabinet near you, then it would be the distance from the cabinet to your house.

    There is a cabinet about 600 - 800m away from my house (top of the housing estate) and we would get 25Mb from that service when FTTC arrives...

    That's the best speed you can get from fiber because you're 600 - 800 meters from the cabinet?

    I get 12 MB on my "up to 24MB" package. On Google maps, I'm about 700 - 750 from the exchange, according to the distance measurement tool, but there's a river in the path.

    Do you know what speed I can get from FTTC?


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    #941
    Hogzy
    Registered Users Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭Hogzy


    Gaynna wrote: »
    That's the best speed you can get from fiber because you're 600 - 800 meters from the cabinet?

    I get 12 MB on my "up to 24MB" package. On Google maps, I'm about 700 - 750 from the exchange, according to the distance measurement tool, but there's a river in the path.

    Do you know what speed I can get from FTTC?

    As the crow flys or via roadways. Sometimes the cabling wont exactly go the route you predicted. FTTC depends on how far from the cabinet you are. Not the exchange.


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    #942
    Gaynna
    Closed Accounts Posts: 44 ✭Gaynna


    Hogzy wrote: »
    As the crow flys or via roadways. Sometimes the cabling wont exactly go the route you predicted. FTTC depends on how far from the cabinet you are. Not the exchange.

    Crows. If you go on to Google maps, there's a Distance Measurement Tool in MapLabs that would be only useful if you flew a helicopter because it measures distance in a perfectly straight line.

    Walking, it would take 13 mins, according to Google Maps.

    I have no idea where the cabinet is then because I thought the cabinets were in the exchange. Do you know how I can find mine?


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    #943
    Sponge Bob
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    big green metal box with double doors


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    #944
    Gaynna
    Closed Accounts Posts: 44 ✭Gaynna


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    big green metal box with double doors

    When were these cabinets built? Are they specially built for the fiber rollout or have they been around since the Telecom Eireann days?

    Is this one?

    2iizfrk.png


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    #945
    arctan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 354 ✭✭arctan


    bog standard cab ... there'll be a smaller one put in beside it when the FTTC is in place


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    #946
    Gaynna
    Closed Accounts Posts: 44 ✭Gaynna


    arctan wrote: »
    bog standard cab ... there'll be a smaller one put in beside it when the FTTC is in place

    I'm only 5 mins walk/ 350 meters from that. What speeds can I expect?


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    #947
    Sponge Bob
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    100mbits by 2014


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    #948
    Gaynna
    Closed Accounts Posts: 44 ✭Gaynna


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    100mbits by 2014

    Sweet, I might even be only 300 meters from the cabinet because Google Maps measures in 50s. e.g. 50, 100, 150, 200, 250, etc...

    What upload speeds can I expect from that?


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    #949
    Liamario
    Registered Users Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭Liamario


    I've noticed eircom/ KN doing some work in my area. I have two shiney green boxes within 500 metres of my house. There may be others I'm not aware of.

    I wonder why UPC haven't bothered to try and do more upgrades/ lay cables, with all this going on.


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    #950
    red_bairn
    Registered Users Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭red_bairn


    Liamario wrote: »
    I've noticed eircom/ KN doing some work in my area. I have two shiney green boxes within 500 metres of my house. There may be others I'm not aware of.

    I wonder why UPC haven't bothered to try and do more upgrades/ lay cables, with all this going on.

    I think UPC use the lines that Eircom setup. The fibre that is connected to the cabinet.


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    #951
    PseudoFamous
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,514 ✭✭✭PseudoFamous


    Lads, who do McCann Cabling Solutions work for? They're shoving something into ducts on the Vale and Coolgreany roads in Arklow today, wondering if it's for eircom or ESB


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    #952
    Gaynna
    Closed Accounts Posts: 44 ✭Gaynna


    PseudoFamous wrote: »
    Lads, who do McCann Cabling Solutions work for? They're shoving something into ducts on the Vale and Coolgreany roads in Arklow today, wondering if it's for eircom or ESB

    Here's their website:

    http://www.mccanncablingsolutions.com/


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    #953
    Sponge Bob
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    eircom adds 'unscheduled' exchanges. These are mainly rural and they will not be doing the rural parts but might throw a few in the Village itself sometime after January 2015 or January 2016.

    Full List and Phasing Here

    http://www.nextgenerationnetwork.ie/ngn-access
    Clones Monaghan Phase 5 TBA
    Rathangan Kildare Phase 5 TBA
    Sixmilebridge Clare Phase 5 TBA
    Abbeyleix Laois Phase 5 TBA
    Annacotty Ind Est Limerick Phase 5 TBA
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    Athboy Meath Phase 5 TBA
    Athenry Galway Phase 5 TBA
    Bailieboro Cavan Phase 5 TBA
    Ballinrobe Mayo Phase 5 TBA
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    Ballymahon Longford Phase 5 TBA
    Ballymote Sligo Phase 5 TBA
    Ballyspillane Kerry Phase 5 TBA
    Baltinglass Wicklow Phase 5 TBA
    Banagher Offaly Phase 5 TBA
    Bantry Cork Phase 5 TBA
    Barna Galway Phase 5 TBA
    Barntown Wexford Phase 5 TBA
    Boyle Roscommon Phase 5 TBA
    Bunclody Wexford Phase 5 TBA
    Bundoran Donegal Phase 5 TBA
    Cahir Tipperary Phase 5 TBA
    Cahirciveen Kerry Phase 5 TBA
    Callan Kilkenny Phase 5 TBA
    Carndonagh Donegal Phase 5 TBA
    Carrickonsuir Tipperary Phase 5 TBA
    Cashel Tipperary Phase 5 TBA
    Castlebellingham Louth Phase 5 TBA
    Castleblayney Monaghan Phase 5 TBA
    Castleisland Kerry Phase 5 TBA
    Castlelyons Cork Phase 5 TBA
    Claregalway Galway Phase 5 TBA
    Claremorris Mayo Phase 5 TBA
    Clonakilty Cork Phase 5 TBA
    Collooney Sligo Phase 5 TBA
    Courtown Harbour Wexford Phase 5 TBA
    Crosshaven Cork Phase 5 TBA
    Curragh Camp Kildare Phase 5 TBA
    Dingle Kerry Phase 5 TBA
    Dublin Airport Dublin Phase 5 TBA
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    Dunleer Louth Phase 5 TBA
    Enfield Meath Phase 5 TBA
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    Greenoge Dublin Phase 5 TBA
    Inch St Lawrence Limerick Phase 5 TBA
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    #954
    jaykay2
    Registered Users Posts: 414 ✭✭jaykay2


    Have just come across KN doing work in Longford. They seemed to be laying blue cable. Anyone know if this is fibre?

    I'm hoping it is. :)


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    #955
    red bellied
    Registered Users Posts: 355 ✭✭red bellied


    I am in Sligo and Eircom have put in a smaller green box beside the original bigger cabinet and its about 25 yards away from my house. Currently with Digiweb metro, I am happy enough with them except for their cap. Would it be worth switching to Eircom when their new set up launches?


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    #956
    Gaynna
    Closed Accounts Posts: 44 ✭Gaynna


    red bellied wrote: »
    I am in Sligo and Eircom have put in a smaller green box beside the original bigger cabinet and its about 25 yards away from my house. Currently with Digiweb metro, I am happy enough with them except for their cap. Would it be worth switching to Eircom when their new set up launches?

    How much is your cap? I was with Digiweb in 2006 and I had a cap of 10GB on a 1mb connection. Bastards throttled my speed which would be used up in a week. Upgrade to 2mb and a cap of 20GB, still used it up way too early. I've since changed to Eircom and they don't throttle anyone's speed or charge extra even though they have a "fair usage" cap.

    I'd go with Eircom, or any company, just for the unlimited download.


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    #957
    red bellied
    Registered Users Posts: 355 ✭✭red bellied


    Gaynna wrote: »
    How much is your cap? I was with Digiweb in 2006 and I had a cap of 10GB on a 1mb connection. Bastards throttled my speed which would be used up in a week. Upgrade to 2mb and a cap of 20GB, still used it up way too early. I've since changed to Eircom and they don't throttle anyone's speed or charge extra even though they have a "fair usage" cap.

    I'd go with Eircom, or any company, just for the unlimited download.

    Its 100GB now but I am constantly bordering on it due to it been a rolling cap. Wouldnt be too bad if it started a fresh after every month.


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    #958
    lucernarian
    Registered Users Posts: 9,235 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    red bellied wrote: »
    Its 100GB now but I am constantly bordering on it due to it been a rolling cap. Wouldnt be too bad if it started a fresh after every month.
    Can you get UPC in your part of Sligo?


    On a topical note: are there many cabinets in urban areas involved in the rollout which don't have new cabinets nearby but do have "extensions" fitted to the top of existing cabinets (the green ones they've typically used for 15 years now)?? I've seen a few of those in the Drogheda exchange area and also one in the Crown Alley exchange area (central dub).


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    #959
    red_bairn
    Registered Users Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭red_bairn


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    eircom adds 'unscheduled' exchanges. These are mainly rural and they will not be doing the rural parts but might throw a few in the Village itself sometime after January 2015 or January 2016.

    Full List and Phasing here

    Dublin airport...

    This country is so messed up.


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    #960
    The Real B-man
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭The Real B-man


    To_be_confirmed wrote: »
    Can you get UPC in your part of Sligo?


    On a topical note: are there many cabinets in urban areas involved in the rollout which don't have new cabinets nearby but do have "extensions" fitted to the top of existing cabinets (the green ones they've typically used for 15 years now)?? I've seen a few of those in the Drogheda exchange area and also one in the Crown Alley exchange area (central dub).

    Parts of Sligo Town have UPC


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    #961
    lucernarian
    Registered Users Posts: 9,235 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    The Real B-man wrote: »
    Parts of Sligo Town have UPC
    I know... but is the poster living in a part of Sligo which is covered by UPC?


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