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Cass · 28-05-2013 9:12pm

That is impressive. So are the scores on some of the pictures.

One picture shows a full screen of 10.2 or higher. Conditions must have been good?

The clay range is very impressive too. Is that a full time facility or range or just something they "dust off" for events?

IRLConor · 29-05-2013 9:18am

Cass wrote: »

One picture shows a full screen of 10.2 or higher. Conditions must have been good?

Yeah, that was my last string in pre-event training. Conditions were lovely that day, dry, a light breeze and cool but not too cold.

Conditions on the match day were a good bit worse, and hence scores were down for everybody. It was a good bit colder and gustier and when the prep time ended and the match started the heavens opened and it lashed down. You can see my first two shots in the picture above, they're the two 9s at top left. The first was a 9.2 and I thought "Was that nerves or the rain?" so I put another round in and it was a 9.4 in the same place. I clicked in the adjustment and shot a 10.5 and just continued from there. According to those watching me, an awful lot of the other competitors were trying to wait it out. It did seem a little quiet, though all I was thinking was "this is just like shooting in Midlands".

The rest of the string was roughly a 10.2 average so I don't think it bothered me too much once I had adjusted for it.

The only bit I struggled with was at the end where most of the wind flags I could see were soaked and wrapped around the poles. You can see the horizontal stringing in my last diagram above.

Cass wrote: »

The clay range is very impressive too. Is that a full time facility or range or just something they "dust off" for events?

There were a few people out training there while I was there but I don't know how frequently it's used. In fact, I don't know if there are any resident clubs for any of the disciplines. Needless to say, I'd love to be a member there! I know one Irish person who's a member of this club in Munich, so I'm guessing that if it's possible to train in the Olympiaschießanlage it's either very difficult to get in or quite expensive.

It wasn't me! · 29-05-2013 11:33am

I've seen people training on the shotgun facilities whenever I've been over and there's not a concurrent shotgun event run by ISSF, but I'm led to believe that the rifle and pistol facilities don't get the same use outside of competitions, which is a real shame. Would be a great place to make a training camp for a week.

Cass · 29-05-2013 2:00pm

It amazes me how they could let such a facility sit and only use it for comps, etc. when we would kill for such a place here.

I'm sure not all facilities are the same, but imagine having one or two of them here.

Sparks · 29-05-2013 2:12pm

It's the same story as with the Lord Roberts Center in Bisley (or the Olympic ranges in Wolf Creek, Sydney, Athens and Beijing) - they cost money to run (staff, power, heating, insurance, etc, etc) so if you're just getting two or three lads showing up for a bit of a plink, you'd lose money. If you get a major competition, that's something else entirely, and if you can organise large training days or whatever, you can break even at least; but as a casual, show-up-every-second-weekend sort of place, it doesn't work as a concept to have a large well-developed range.

(I mean, even in the UK, Bisley (or more specifically the LRC) is a topic of contention because your nsra subs keep it (barely) open, but if you're in wales or scotland or really anywhere outside of sussex, you're not likely to shoot on it regularly).

Cass · 29-05-2013 2:34pm

We all dream of what we would do with the lottery, but i've had this idea of a state of the art range for all disciplines, and facilities to back it up if i ever won big money.

I'd say you'd need that sort of disposable capital to set it up initially. IOW not have to worry about repayments only running costs which a certain membership each year would cover.

Ah to dream.

It wasn't me! · 29-05-2013 5:20pm

To be honest, I think the most important thing is to look after your pet disciplines, rather than trying to shoehorn everything into the same facility, and everything would suffer. Costs are the major issue though, as Sparks says. Facilities like that are hard to keep going, which is why you would need a readily available, dedicated membership in line with the size of the facility (So the guts of three hundred electronic targets and firing points across the range complex, like in Munich, would be a ridiculous ambition for Ireland, but twenty firing points of the cartridge rifle range there might be more achievable and maintainable) which is going to be there often enough and contribute enough money to support it. Ranges like the LRC cost a lot to train on (Think it's something like £16 an hour on the 50m range) if the option is even available. Some use their facilities for local clubs and organisations. As far as I know, Sydney gets a decent bit of use. Others, like Athens and Atlanta, are graveyards for spiders, because they're just unsupportable. If we could get a facility for ISSF rifle shooting anywhere near as nice as Munich, and sized in line with the potential membership, it would still have to cost a huge amount to join and use, just in order to exist. Realistically, to accommodate any other disciplines, even half-arsedly, which would seem like a shame, would sink the whole affair.

Cass · 29-05-2013 10:15pm

My point was about a pipe dream. IOW what i would do if i had Euromillions behind me. Cost would not be an issue.

It wasn't me! · 29-05-2013 10:39pm

Cass wrote: »

My point was about a pipe dream. IOW what i would do if i had Euromillions behind me. Cost would not be an issue.

Maybe cost wouldn't, but administration and such would be. Still, it's a great dream. Personally I'd build a small but world class ISSF facility, then chuck money at a few other things I'd like to see flourish, but under their own administration, in another place. That way I can go visit another range which is a world-class, no compromise icon of F-Class or whatever other discipline, without anything else to detract from its own agenda. The other effect of this, of course, is that there are more ranges around overall, which isn't a bad thing. That space could always end up a golf course instead if we didn't do the responsible thing and put some targets there!

IPSC · 25-06-2013 7:58pm

New gun arrived:-

Make: Les Baer
Model: Premier 2 with 5" barrel
calibre: 45ACP
Features:
guaranteed 1.5" accuracy at 50 yards
front FO sight
extended mag release
two piece magwell
chequred MSH
no markings on left hand side

I ordered this on Paddy's day March 2012. Baers are world famous for accuracy so when I miss I know it's my fault and not my Baer!

IRLConor · 08-07-2013 3:23pm

The town of Las Gabias is where the range is, and the town council put up a billboard welcoming us. It was a nice touch!

When I arrived at the range, the pre-event training was already underway for the trap shooters. The next day, they had their matches (or day 1 of their matches for the men) and I had a day with no shooting scheduled so I watched some of each of their matches:

Derek Burnett shooting one of several clean rounds.

Colin Tanner breaking a target. I took lots of photos trying to catch a target being broken, they move too fast!

Aoife Gormally shooting Trap.

The shotgun range is a beautiful facility with a fantastic backdrop:

I also wandered down to the 50m range to have a look at my firing point (the firing point assignments were made on Friday) and while I was down there I caught some of one of the 50m Free Pistol training sessions:

There were three relays of roughly 40 people for my event and I was on the last relay. Here are some of the shooters from relay 2 who I saw bits of while I was getting my gear together for my relay:

I was talking to Warren Potent (centre, in the green and yellow) today and he told me that he dislocated his shoulder by twisting it funnily when getting into position. He had his coach put it back in and continued the match!

Today I caught part of the second relay of the Women's 10m Air Pistol. It was really hot in the airgun range since there's no air conditioning. I can only imagine how hot it must have been for the air rifle shooters in jackets, pants and boots.

I managed to get a few more photos which are here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/91242583@N03/sets/72157634526897380/

IRLConor · 08-07-2013 5:41pm

IRLConor wrote: »

I also have a video of Christian Reitz shooting a perfect 50 in the rapid fire pistol but that will have to wait until I have a better internet connection!

The video didn't turn out as I hoped, but here it is anyway:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1cs7Yq80_E

IRLConor · 15-07-2013 11:41am

I got back to training yesterday:

Indoors at 25yds since I didn't have enough time to make it to a 50m range. Still, I'm happy enough with it.

dev110 · 20-07-2013 2:43pm

So after shooting in the Irish International Open in Harbour House last week I was slightly disappointed as things didn't go as well as I had hoped.
In Multi Target I had 3 jams in a row at 10m so it was a right off and shot a 288 in T&P. The jams had me confused as to what was causing them so I stripped the action and gave it a good cleaning on Monday and filled the mags with 10 rounds each and left them there for the week.

Today I got a brick of SK Standard Plus and headed to the range for some practice.

I was losing the majority of my points at 25m as I was shooting to quickly as I didn't have a watch to tell me when the 2 minutes were up so I decided to bring my watch with me and the difference it made was unreal.

First target was 36 rounds at 25m:

I dropped 12 points.

I then changed targets and shot a match:

I was clear at 25m which was the goal but dropped 2 points at 15m

Spurred on I stuck up another target:

My first 300/300 with some X's

I was delighted with myself and called it a day. I need to get some multi target targets now and start practicing that.

Also the rifle never jammed so I don't know if it was the ammo, cleaning or the mags that may have fixed the problem.

adrian5765 · 25-07-2013 4:22pm

what set-up are u shooting with dev was this the HH open

adrian5765 · 25-07-2013 4:24pm

i am just starting with rimfire and would like to know if you could suggest any practice routines that would help,cheers

dev110 · 25-07-2013 4:57pm

adrian5765 wrote: »

what set-up are u shooting with dev was this the HH open

adrian5765 wrote: »

i am just starting with rimfire and would like to know if you could suggest any practice routines that would help,cheers

Hi Adrian,

I am using a Ruger 10/22 with a Boyds Evo Stock, Kidd Single Stage trigger and Bushnell Banner 6-18x50 scope

Them targets were shot the Saturday after the Irish open in HH at MNSCI.

I'm only after starting up gallery rifle so I probably wouldn't be the best lad to tell you what you need but the best thing you can do is get out and shoot and see where your weakness were. As you can see from the targets above I was loosing points at 25 metres so decided to practice at 25m and tried different positions and shooting fast and slow.

These might be of some interest to you:

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=ZGVmYXVsdGRvbWFpbnxuYm5hc3JwY3xneDozMWVlODcyMDVkMjZhOTkw

http://www.rudefatdog.com/Gallery%20Rifle%20Basics%201.pdf
http://www.rudefatdog.com/Gallery%20Rifle%20Basics%202.pdf
http://www.rudefatdog.com/Gallery%20Rifle%20Basics%203.pdf
http://www.rudefatdog.com/Gallery%20Rifle%20Basics%204.pdf

There are a few lads off here that are also into gallery and would have more tips and tricks than I would. Off the top of my head there is Scalachi, Clivej, Cw67irl, Tommoyboy26 & Liffy Fishing

adrian5765 · 25-07-2013 7:31pm

thanks for that i will start shooting to timed and reloading cheers...

adrian5765 · 25-07-2013 7:33pm

i'm living near edenderry so joining HH soon

IRLConor · 09-09-2013 10:38am

I was up in Dungannon testing ammunition with Eley. I got a good batch and then shot a match from the shoulder to test it. I shot a new PB:

That's 594 (99, 100, 98, 99, 99, 99) in old scoring, which would also have been a PB at 50m. I think this batch of ammo works!

On the day I shot 445 rounds between the testing and the match and this is what was waiting for me when I took the extension tube off the rifle:

:eek:

Sparks · 09-09-2013 11:47am

Sweet score. Not so sweet cleaning job

FLOYDSTER · 17-09-2013 5:40pm

Was at the Testing weekend too and selected a batch of Tenex for my new barrel and action!

Fortunately it shot rather well in my old barrel and action as you can see below!:D

It wasn't me! · 17-09-2013 5:44pm

Nice to see it behaves itself in both rifles! That the batch with the small ten shot groups and the oddly large forty shot?

FLOYDSTER · 17-09-2013 5:48pm

It wasn't me! wrote: »

Nice to see it behaves itself in both rifles! That the batch with the small ten shot groups and the oddly large forty shot?

Yip Dave, action wasnt tightened in the vice so was stringing vertically!;)

It wasn't me! · 17-09-2013 10:20pm

FLOYDSTER wrote: »

Yip Dave, action wasnt tightened in the vice so was stringing vertically!;)

Thought that must be it. No way it'd shoot ten shot groups like that and yet be shíte overall! The couple of strings over 106.0 are nice too. Definitely doing something right there.

IRLConor · 14-10-2013 6:28pm

The final in yesterday's 2013 50m prone nationals:

Photo courtesy of Anthony Fagan via the NTSA website (more photos there).

Cass · 14-10-2013 8:08pm

Hope ya put all my tables back. Spent a lot of time there the last two weeks tidying up the entire range(s).

Well done to all, and well done Conor. Hard to wipe that smile of your face i'd say. Very close finish. Only 0.1.

It's great to see such a variety of people competing in terms of age & gender. A thing missing in some disciplines of sports shooting.

It wasn't me! · 14-10-2013 9:07pm

Cass wrote: »

Hope ya put all my tables back. Spent a lot of time there the last two weeks tidying up the entire range(s).

Well done to all, and well done Conor. Hard to wipe that smile of your face i'd say. Very close finish. Only 0.1.

It's great to see such a variety of people competing in terms of age & gender. A thing missing in some disciplines of sports shooting.

It's better even than that Cass. The young ones are better than we ever could have been at that stage. They have more resources and more ambition, and more cause to be ambitious. They're already getting good results and they're taking up more disciplines. In that photo, there are people who shoot air rifle, prone and three-positions, and are training aggressively. I have no doubt they'll make a serious addition to the pool of talent in the country and maybe down the line they'll decide to change for a different branch of shooting and other disciplines might benefit from all the work we've put in in the college clubs. I hope they do.

Cass · 14-10-2013 9:35pm

Sounds extremely promising.

Perhaps it's just me but the "newer" generation for shooters seem to have a higher natural ability and better understanding of things we had to spend years finding out the hard way. It can only be good thing, and should that talent spill over into other disciplines then they will only be the better because of it.

It wasn't me! · 14-10-2013 10:15pm

I think in the case of DURC it's got a lot to do with all the infrastructural work done over the last number of years to improve the training our novices are getting. Certainly their results are reflecting it. It's a pain in the balls whatever it is.

IRLConor · 14-10-2013 11:31pm

Cass wrote: »

Hope ya put all my tables back. Spent a lot of time there the last two weeks tidying up the entire range(s).

Everything got put back in its place, don't worry!

Cass wrote: »

Well done to all, and well done Conor. Hard to wipe that smile of your face i'd say. Very close finish. Only 0.1.

Yeah, I shot like a complete eejit in the final yesterday so had to scrape myself back up the ladder with every shot. That's the fifth national championships win for me, three indoor at 25yds and two outdoor at 50m. New competition PB yesterday too 620.1 (593/34X in old scoring).

Cass wrote: »

It's great to see such a variety of people competing in terms of age & gender. A thing missing in some disciplines of sports shooting.

Yeah, there's more than 45 years between the oldest and youngest shooter in that final. While only 2 out of the 8 finalists were women, 2 out of the 3 women competing made the final and the third missed out on making the final by only 0.9 points. In terms of the experience five of the eight shooters have shot for Ireland at European Championship, World Cup, World Championship and Paralympic competitions.

The mix of ages in particular makes things interesting since the younger shooters keep pushing the older ones and the older shooters have plenty to teach the younger shooters. I'm stuck in the middle!

Sparks · 17-10-2013 1:35pm

It wasn't me! wrote: »

I think in the case of DURC it's got a lot to do with all the infrastructural work done over the last number of years to improve the training our novices are getting. Certainly their results are reflecting it. It's a pain in the balls whatever it is.

I just keep telling myself that their high scores are proof that we did the right things over the last fourteen or so years building up the club from, well, a pretty deep nadir -- we came within pennies of being wound up by DUCAC in '97 if I remember right (For the non-DURC-committee readers, if any TCD Sports Club has a negative balance in the bank account, no matter how small or temporary, on the day they audit the accounts before the start of the year, then that club is wound up. Or at least, that was the rule at the time, hopefully it's gotten less stringent since). To come from that (and being a pretty undervalued and ignored club in the college to boot) to where the club is now (well-respected in college, just over 500 members (aren't we at this stage?) making it the largest sports club in TCD, and with people on the DUCAC committee, not to mention the very high competitive standard of shooting) is something to be quite happy about, and took a lot of work from a lot of people in the club and a lot of help from a lot of people outside the club; and those high scores we're seeing now are the payoff for all of that.

That's what I keep telling myself while grumbling about babysitting while MiCrO's 10m scores go flying past my PB anyway

Sparks · 20-10-2013 1:22pm

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IRLConor · 18-04-2014 10:28pm

I think this is a first. The sun came in the windows of the sports hall being used for the 10m airgun events in the Isle of Man shooting festival. One of the range officers spotted that it was putting glare on one of DURC's shooter's sights and so he stood on a chair to put her in the shade.

Sparks · 18-04-2014 10:49pm

Good man!

FLOYDSTER · 20-04-2014 12:20am

Yet again, foiled by a 9.9 lol

IRLConor · 23-04-2014 11:29pm

It wasn't me! shooting standing in the 3 position final in the Isle of Man Easter shoot:

and to give an idea of the size of the shoot, here's just one of the details for the 50m prone event:

More photos are on the Dublin University Rifle Club Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.624085321008571.1073741831.573329859417451&type=3

IRLConor · 28-04-2014 8:32am

Sean Baldwin and Aisling Miller. The National Champions for Men's and Women's Air Rifle.

More photos are available on the NTSA website and on the DURC Facebook page.

IRLConor · 06-08-2014 11:19pm

Different cultural attitude towards shooting right here:

Norwegian national TV showing shooting some of the Norwegian national championships (Landsskytterstevnet).

Cass · 06-08-2014 11:51pm

That is brilliant.

IRLConor · 03-08-2015 12:34pm

I got myself a new SCATT electronic trainer. The new version that I got can be used for live fire training as well as dry fire. The old IR sensor rig was replaced with a camera that looks for a black circle as an aiming mark so pretty much any black mark big enough to be spotted by the camera can be used. The range of distances it can be used at is much bigger than it used to be too. Here's a review of someone who used it for US High Power stuff out as far as 600yds: http://www.accurateshooter.com/technical-articles/review-scatt-mx-02-for-high-power/

Here's the trace that it recorded for one of my shots yesterday in Midlands (ISSF 50m rifle target):

https://instagram.com/p/56zFelmBt6/

Vegeta · 04-08-2015 3:14pm

Coooooooool, that is a savage bit of kit. I love tech toys. Dare I ask how much......

IRLConor · 04-08-2015 5:17pm

Vegeta wrote: »

Coooooooool, that is a savage bit of kit. I love tech toys. Dare I ask how much......

It costs roughly the same as about 5,000 rounds of Eley Tenex.

IRLConor · 04-08-2015 6:38pm

You can also overlay the traces for all of your shots to have a look at your approach and recoil patterns (click for larger version):

Sparks · 04-08-2015 6:59pm

IRLConor wrote: »

It costs roughly the same as about 5,000 rounds of Eley Tenex.

But it's worth a lot more 'cos you'll get 500,000 shots or more out of it

IRLConor · 04-08-2015 8:17pm

Sparks wrote: »

But it's worth a lot more 'cos you'll get 500,000 shots or more out of it

In theory, yes. In practice, you can live fire with this so it's no longer an either-or situation like with the older model SCATTs.

Sparks · 04-08-2015 9:43pm

IRLConor wrote: »

In theory, yes. In practice, you can live fire with this so it's no longer an either-or situation like with the older model SCATTs.

Or the RIKAs or Noptels for that matter. Actually, have you tried it out at 10m at all?

IRLConor · 04-08-2015 9:45pm

Sparks wrote: »

Or the RIKAs or Noptels for that matter. Actually, have you tried it out at 10m at all?

Not yet, but I will when the license for mine arrives.

It wasn't me! · 04-08-2015 11:09pm

I've live fired 10m on the old SCATT. It's pretty useful. This one though just seems far more versatile.

IRLConor · 06-01-2016 12:46am

I've had my air rifle for a few months now, but this is the first time I've had both of my rifles in the same place at the same time. In case ye haven't noticed, I like shiny rifles.

(click to zoom)

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