Anxiety and/or depression discussion.

fiftythree · 03-11-2014 4:43pm

loveisdivine wrote: »

This song came on the radio in work and made me think of everyone here

http://youtu.be/SybgWaQy7_c

thanks listened to that and ended up listening to a bit of earlier mac..

just noticed for the first time the dangling balls on the rumours album cover:eek:

lot darker this one!
but i like it.

cookie24 · 03-11-2014 7:06pm

fiftythree wrote: »

that sounds like a decent idea to me, the AA meetings.
to get used to public speaking if you need to.
i haven't had to speak in public much but i am terrified of it.
it really does get a LOT easier after the first few times.
i would suggest maybe finding a group of some kind to join,
that wasn't specifically anxiety related. something you are interested in.
sporsts club/amateur dramatics/host a pub quiz/club or society if you are studying..
or if you have a real life friend who understands your situation you could build it up by starting with them, one person.
and build it up from there.

I'm gonna have to find something that requires public speaking, if I dont overcome that before I get a job, I fear the anxiety will be too extreme to continue working....fear of meetings, presentations, etc.

On a side note....has anyone tried curcumin supplements for depression? Its a newly discovered component of turmeric. Research is in its infancy but the results are promising. You can buy curcumin supplements, so I was thinking of getting them.

Here's a link to a study, only the abstract is available.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23035031

Call Me Jimmy · 03-11-2014 7:07pm

cookie24 wrote: »

I'm gonna have to find something that requires public speaking, if I dont overcome that before I get a job, I fear the anxiety will be too extreme to continue working....fear of meetings, presentations, etc.

On a side note....has anyone tried curcumin supplements for depression? Its a newly discovered component of turmeric. Research is in its infancy but the results are promising. You can buy curcumin supplements, so I was thinking of getting them.

Here's a link to a study, only the abstract is available.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23035031

Toastmasters for the speaking? Never been but heard great things

fiftythree · 03-11-2014 7:44pm

cookie24 wrote: »

I'm gonna have to find something that requires public speaking, if I dont overcome that before I get a job, I fear the anxiety will be too extreme to continue working....fear of meetings, presentations, etc.

On a side note....has anyone tried curcumin supplements for depression? Its a newly discovered component of turmeric. Research is in its infancy but the results are promising. You can buy curcumin supplements, so I was thinking of getting them.

Here's a link to a study, only the abstract is available.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23035031

might have a curry tonight cookie then

i really think the public speaking thing comes with practice.
try to think as you would were you an audience member as opposed
to the speaker. most of the audience don't even want to be there or are
wrapped up in their own lives and concerns.
good luck to you

loveisdivine · 03-11-2014 7:59pm

Just read this article on Tiny Buddha and found it really interesting. Hope its ok to link to it. "You're not broken, you're powerful beyond measure".

http://tinybuddha.com/blog/youre-not-broken/

Gongoozler · 03-11-2014 7:59pm

Before I forget, Jimmy, been wanting to say for a while I think you come off as a very nice, very smart genuine person, and when I read of your anxiety issues I feel really bad for you. It's like from the outside you can see that there's no reason someone should think such bad things, but they can't see it themselves. If that somehow comes off as an insult, I don't mean it to!

Anyway, I am feeling pretty tense this evening. Housemate really pissing me off, as she keeps eating my things. Amongst other issues. She comes off like she's nice and wouldn't harm a fly but I think it's all an act so that no one calls her on anything. Hard to explain.

Plus just had an argument with the woman I sit next to in work, through text. She's being an eejit, and I pretty much called her on it, and yet she came back with defensiveness. Tomorrow should be fun

I'm going to try take my mind off things. It's so hard. Have jobs to look for and things to watch, so hopefully...

Call Me Jimmy · 03-11-2014 8:09pm

I very much appreciate that Gongoozler. I feel the same reading people's experiences here, we find it easier to feel that deep compassion when it's someone else. It's strange when you try to turn that compassion inwards and are met with resistance!

It sucks having to deal with the petty conflicts that you are atm but I just thought 'good on ye' for addressing the issues even if it causes discomfort in the present. It's a much better way to live than just pretending to be nice and having your boundaries close in.

@loveisdivine (don't know why i keep using the @symbol when addressing you)

The quote in that article has always rang true for me. It's a very odd feeling that I get sometimes that I'm almost afraid to wield any power at all, but I know its potentially there. Interesting link, keep em comin!

fiftythree · 03-11-2014 8:20pm

CZ 453 wrote: »

I have anxiety people- Lend me your ears. I have no idea where to purchase Call of Duty tonight? Where is the cheapest place to go?

On a side note. The amount of things I got done today was Trojan work to say the least.

well done today on getting stuff done:D
wouldn't know about where to get the game.
just go into town if you live near one i'd say.
happy gamings..

fiftythree · 03-11-2014 8:30pm

CZ 453 wrote: »

It very easily could have been a Netflix day.
I got up today and started by making the bed. I never make the bed. I like the bed the way it is. All messy. The missus would be nagging away about it. So i made it today. A wise decision. That's Christmas sorted for her

and new year:D
and her birthday:D
happy days

cookie24 · 03-11-2014 8:51pm

CZ 453 wrote: »

I have anxiety people- Lend me your ears. I have no idea where to purchase Call of Duty tonight? Where is the cheapest place to go?

On a side note. The amount of things I got done today was Trojan work to say the least.

Unfortunately I dont know. Most places will do a midnight release. I got a copy today very luckily

there were early releases and i chanced my arm in gamestop. luckily there was a cancellation. relaxation tonight

best of luck with getting the game and more importantly, your anxiety

CZ 453 · 03-11-2014 8:53pm

cookie24 wrote: »

Unfortunately I dont know. Most places will do a midnight release. I got a copy today very luckily
there were early releases and i chanced my arm in gamestop. luckily there was a cancellation. relaxation tonight
best of luck with getting the game and more importantly, your anxiety

A true anxiety poster on this thread would have offered me their copy to alleviate my anxiety....Shame on you

fiftythree · 03-11-2014 8:58pm

CZ 453 wrote: »

A true anxiety poster on this thread would have offered me their copy to alleviate my anxiety....Shame on you

never mind COD. bubble bobble lads is where the real fun resides.:D

fiftythree · 03-11-2014 11:12pm

guys i need to move house.

had a word with the guy who was causing the problems in my house share earlier today.
he seemed ok about it to my face and said he was new to he country and getting used to
the culture.
that was fine. we had a chat and got on ok.
i'm after going to the bathroom now and there was faeces and toilet paper in the SINK.
i literally can't deal with this anymore.
like someone last night said and they must have got it right, seems
this guy is "marking his territory".

i am in a pretty bad way at the best of times but this has moved me into
a sort of frenzied state. was so glad to find a place to live
as i lived on the streets before that
but i feel paranoid he is trying to get to me.
i literally feel sick leaving my room now.

in an awful state of panic here.
i have nowhere else i can go.

CZ 453 · 03-11-2014 11:17pm

fiftythree wrote: »

guys i need to move house.

had a word with the guy who was causing the problems in my house share earlier today.
he seemed ok about it to my face and said he was new to he country and getting used to
the culture.
that was fine. we had a chat and got on ok.
i'm after going to the bathroom now and there was faeces and toilet paper in the SINK.
i literally can't deal with this anymore.
like someone last night said and they must have got it right, seems
this guy is "marking his territory".

i am in a pretty bad way at the best of times but this has moved me into
a sort of frenzied state. was so glad to find a place to live
as i lived on the streets before that
but i feel paranoid he is trying to get to me.
i literally feel sick leaving my room now.

in an awful state of panic here.
i have nowhere else i can go.

Take photos. Call your landlord and explain to him whats going on.

Get reading
http://www.nihe.gov.uk/index/advice/renting_privately/advice_tenants/tenants_rights.htm

fiftythree · 03-11-2014 11:22pm

CZ 453 wrote: »

Take photos. Call your landlord and explain to him whats going on.

Get reading
http://www.nihe.gov.uk/index/advice/renting_privately/advice_tenants/tenants_rights.htm

thanks. can't take photos atm phone got stolen
i only have a basic one.
the guy just denies everything.
hard to pin him on anything.
i am rubbish with rules and regulations etc.
always try to be decent and wish everyone else was too.
the lad seems to be friendly with the landlord so
i doubt much would come of a complaint.
just feel sick man, sorry for ranting again.

fiftythree · 03-11-2014 11:25pm

haven't got a rent book but have a written lease.
nothing like that is in it, from a brief scanning.
i will call the LL tomorrow and try to get a way out.
hopefully he will be ok about it.
starting to feel scared at this stage. threatened.
this can't be how people live.

CZ 453 · 03-11-2014 11:26pm

fiftythree wrote: »

thanks. can't take photos atm phone got stolen
i only have a basic one.
the guy just denies everything.
hard to pin him on anything.
i am rubbish with rules and regulations etc.
always try to be decent and wish everyone else was too.
the lad seems to be friendly with the landlord so
i doubt much would come of a complaint.
just feel sick man, sorry for ranting again.

By deduction it has to be him. There is only you and him(and his family)???

Gongoozler · 03-11-2014 11:28pm

I'm so upset and frustrated. I just need someone to talk to about this and I have nobody. It's a simple ****ing thing. But I just need to talk to someone about it. Who's going to talk back. Isn't that what talking means.

I'm so full of anger and upset at this, and at the fact that I have nobody to talk to about it, that I'm going to be up late crying and my face will be puffy and I'll be tired, and I'll still have gotten nowhere

fiftythree · 03-11-2014 11:29pm

CZ 453 wrote: »

By deduction it has to be him. There is only you and him(and his family)???

It is a 5 bed house.me him and in theory 3 others live here.
the HMO(Houses of multiple occupation) here
need to meet requirements. more than 5 people, not rooms, people,
and you need to have 2x bathrooms, showers, ovens etc. for 6+people.
he denies his wife and child live here.
but they clearly do.

CZ 453 · 03-11-2014 11:29pm

fiftythree wrote: »

haven't got a rent book but have a written lease.
nothing like that is in it, from a brief scanning.
i will call the LL tomorrow and try to get a way out.
hopefully he will be ok about it.
starting to feel scared at this stage. threatened.
this can't be how people live.

You have rights as a tenant. I'm not too sure of the UK ones. It is the landlords duty to ensure that the house is fit for use. If the tenant is causing trouble he(the landlord) owes a duty of care to the rest of the tenants. There are no buddies in business. That dude is renting from the landlord like you are.

CZ 453 · 03-11-2014 11:30pm

Gongoozler wrote: »

I'm so upset and frustrated. I just need someone to talk to about this and I have nobody. It's a simple ****ing thing. But I just need to talk to someone about it. Who's going to talk back. Isn't that what talking means.

Shoot

fiftythree · 03-11-2014 11:30pm

Gongoozler wrote: »

I'm so upset and frustrated. I just need someone to talk to about this and I have nobody. It's a simple ****ing thing. But I just need to talk to someone about it. Who's going to talk back. Isn't that what talking means.

talk away gon, that's what we are here for..
i'm here.

fiftythree · 03-11-2014 11:35pm

CZ 453 wrote: »

You have rights as a tenant. I'm not too sure of the UK ones. It is the landlords duty to ensure that the house is fit for use. If the tenant is causing trouble he(the landlord) owes a duty of care to the rest of the tenants. There are no buddies in business. That dude is renting from the landlord like you are.

thanks. but they seem real cosy, like i have seen him and the LL smoke joints together in the house. could be some rent allowance scam i have no idea.
at the moment the other tenants express disgust at the mess but refuse
to clean it up so i always do.
it just gets progressively worse. this is sick in the head behaviour

Gongoozler · 03-11-2014 11:40pm

fiftythree wrote: »

talk away gon, that's what we are here for..
i'm here.

I have always had a problem with confrontation. I'm trying to get more ok with saying things to people when I work out that it's warranted. The thing with the woman at work, and then coming home to this **** from my housemate has really pissed me off. But as far as I can work out I'm not wrong to say something to them. I said something to the woman at work, and she's taken a right huff with me. Don't think she's even going to talk to me anymore. Which makes it awkward as I have to work with her.

Then my housemate, I know she's eaten some of my stuff and suspect others, but again I'm pretty sure that I'm kinda right to say something. Certainly not wrong.

However not wrong I am in either situation, do you think it'll ever happen that the other person might say Oh sorry about that etc etc. And get on with it..? Nope. Can't remember that happening. I've brought up things with housemates. All gone to ****. Can't even be in the same room as each other after that, have to move out. I've brought up things with friends, think they accept what I'm saying? Nope. Can't be friends any more.

I'm ****ing tired of it. If i don't say something they continue to take the piss. Making me feel like my feelings aren't worth **** to anybody. If I do say something I'm the bad guy, wrong for either sayin it or having a problem with it in the first place. Or both.

I don't know what I'm meant to do.

fiftythree · 03-11-2014 11:45pm

Gongoozler wrote: »

I have always had a problem with confrontation. I'm trying to get more ok with saying things to people when I work out that it's warranted. The thing with the woman at work, and then coming home to this **** from my housemate has really pissed me off. But as far as I can work out I'm not wrong to say something to them. I said something to the woman at work, and she's taken a right huff with me. Don't think she's even going to talk to me anymore. Which makes it awkward as I have to work with her.

Then my housemate, I know she's eaten some of my stuff and suspect others, but again I'm pretty sure that I'm kinda right to say something. Certainly not wrong.

However not wrong I am in either situation, do you think it'll ever happen that the other person might say Oh sorry about that etc etc. And get on with it..? Nope. Can't remember that happening. I've brought up things with housemates. All gone to ****. Can't even be in the same room as each other after that, have to move out. I've brought up things with friends, think they accept what I'm saying? Nope. Can't be friends any more.

I'm ****ing tired of it. If i don't say something they continue to take the piss. Making me feel like my feelings aren't worth **** to anybody. If I do say something I'm the bad guy, wrong for either sayin it or having a problem with it in the first place. Or both.

I don't know what I'm meant to do.

i feel you G, housemate problems here too, big time.
i guess work is different in that it is a professional relationship so i wouldn't burn bridges just yet.
hopefully it was just a bad day in which case you will get over it.
take some time out, breathe, and think on things. objectively.
sorry you had a bad day buddy.

fiftythree · 03-11-2014 11:52pm

someone ate the majority of my food i had in last night.
to look on the bright side as i do like to do,
at least they didn't s##t in the sink....
until today.:eek:

house shares. pure harmony and bliss.:D

fiftythree · 03-11-2014 11:57pm

jusy wondering how he did it, logistically.
the sink is fairly high i would imagine a bar stool type
thing would be in order. in retrospect, fair play to the man.
might have future on britain's got talent.

CZ 453 · 04-11-2014 12:00am

fiftythree wrote: »

jusy wondering how he did it, logistically.
the sink is fairly high i would imagine a bar stool type
thing would be in order. in retrospect, fair play to the man.
might have future on britain's got talent.

His life is hell. He is a near do well. As soon as you're out of that place the better. Any option of moving in with family?

fiftythree · 04-11-2014 12:00am

CZ 453 wrote: »

I was watching Justified the other day and a saying in it stuck with me-

"You can meet an asshole in the morning but if you meet assholes all day then you're the asshole"

Total nonsense. I've had days where i met a whole bunch of assholes in one day and I've been nothing but nice to them. However, each asshole I met took a bit from me. That'd be my biggest regret, letting them.

I think it may have been you earlier that said you were texting this co-worker???If so, stop. Stuff that needs to be said about work needs to be said in work or you could find yourself on the end of a bullying investigation. It's not fair on you or the co-worker to be discussing work via text out of work hours.

that's good advice actually. don't get into a legal situation. i try to be nice to people in general but i may have to rethink that philosophy.
might start being a c##t from now on it seems to serve most people well.

Gongoozler · 04-11-2014 12:01am

It's nothing like that, we've gone to lunch, we go on breaks, she sees me pretty much as a friend. This was about a non work thing. It's not going to be anything like that. This was about her wanting me to do something on her terms and I had already told her it would be on my terms. Hard to explain without going into it.

Yeah I've thought of that too..maybe I'm the asshole. Maybe I am. Maybe I shouldn't be trying to believe that I'm a nice person after all.

fiftythree · 04-11-2014 12:02am

CZ 453 wrote: »

His life is hell. He is a near do well. As soon as you're out of that place the better. Any option of moving in with family?

don't know cz, way my mother is she may need care and i suppose i could move home for that. all up in the air at this stage really.
long long story...

CZ 453 · 04-11-2014 12:04am

fiftythree wrote: »

that's good advice actually. don't get into a legal situation. i try to be nice to people in general but i may have to rethink that philosophy.
might start being a c##t from now on it seems to serve most people well.

That's the thing though. It won't serve you at all. That's not you or gongoozler or me. That gives people your head space. That chap in your house now is only thinking of how to get rid of the rest of ye. What sort of way is that to be??? Wasting his day trying to think of ways to get rid of folk....His life is wasting and he will try to take others with him.

fiftythree · 04-11-2014 12:05am

Gongoozler wrote: »

It's nothing like that, we've gone to lunch, we go on breaks, she sees me pretty much as a friend. This was about a non work thing. It's not going to be anything like that. This was about her wanting me to do something on her terms and I had already told her it would be on my terms. Hard to explain without going into it.

Yeah I've thought of that too..maybe I'm the asshole. Maybe I am. Maybe I shouldn't be trying to believe that I'm a nice person after all.

i didn't suggest at all you were the a hole.
i am hoping a good rant is what you need it has certainly helped me in the past.

CZ 453 · 04-11-2014 12:07am

Gongoozler wrote: »

It's nothing like that, we've gone to lunch, we go on breaks, she sees me pretty much as a friend. This was about a non work thing. It's not going to be anything like that. This was about her wanting me to do something on her terms and I had already told her it would be on my terms. Hard to explain without going into it.

Yeah I've thought of that too..maybe I'm the asshole. Maybe I am. Maybe I shouldn't be trying to believe that I'm a nice person after all.

I'm not saying your the asshole. You've picked it up wrong.

Your building up walls at the moment. You're defensive. Put one issue to the side and look at it. Play devils advocate. Get it out of the way. Then move to issue 2. The housemate???

fiftythree · 04-11-2014 12:08am

CZ 453 wrote: »

That's the thing though. It won't serve you at all. That's not you or gongoozler or me. That gives people your head space. That chap in your house now is only thinking of how to get rid of the rest of ye. What sort of way is that to be??? Wasting his day trying to think of ways to get rid of folk....His life is wasting and he will try to take others with him.

yeah man people like that are pure poison. i just CAN NOT relate
to that way of thinking. i am happy enough with myself, apart from the nervousness and anxiety. i wouldn't ever pick on anyone like that.
i feel like i am in a surreal world here with faeces in the sink and on floor.
kind of stangely proud of myself i haven't totally freaked out yet:D

Gongoozler · 04-11-2014 12:09am

fiftythree wrote: »

i didn't suggest at all you were the a hole.
i am hoping a good rant is what you need it has certainly helped me in the past.

No but that was what cropped up on your post. I do think it sometimes. At times like this when it seems people have a problem with me pointing out how they weren't very nice to me.

I've calmed down a bit anyway. Not sure I'll be able to sleep though.

But whatever about being over my rant, this is a concern for me. I don't know what I'm meant to do. Do I give up having a problem with anyone because it's just easier.

Call Me Jimmy · 04-11-2014 12:11am

Gongoozler it might not be as bad as you think with the workmate. Sure she might have gotten the hump this evening that doesn't mean she'll never speak to ye again. Just keep that in mind.

And as for that bollix ****ting in the sink, jesus he can have the sink. I'd be gone, maybe I'd ask the landlord to kick him out along with a picture of it at least but if landlord wasn't going to kick him out there'd be a me-shaped hole in the front door. I understand circumstances mightnt allow it but can you make it a priority to at least start the wheels in motion to move?

Call Me Jimmy · 04-11-2014 12:12am

I'd hazard a guess that you're a pretty decent person, and if it's gotten to a point of confrontation I'd wager you have good reason fwiw

fiftythree · 04-11-2014 12:12am

Gongoozler wrote: »

No but that was what cropped up on your post. I do think it sometimes. At times like this when it seems people have a problem with me pointing out how they weren't very nice to me.

I've calmed down a bit anyway. Not sure I'll be able to sleep though.

But whatever about being over my rant, this is a concern for me. I don't know what I'm meant to do. Do I give up having a problem with anyone because it's just easier.

glad you are a bit calmed down.
see how things go tomorrow and report back, and analyse that.
as in how you feel the next day.
i fully understand you have real concern ok?
best of luck to you.

fiftythree · 04-11-2014 12:14am

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

Gongoozler it might not be as bad as you think with the workmate. Sure she might have gotten the hump this evening that doesn't mean she'll never speak to ye again. Just keep that in mind.

And as for that bollix ****ting in the sink, jesus he can have the sink. I'd be gone, maybe I'd ask the landlord to kick him out along with a picture of it at least but if landlord wasn't going to kick him out there'd be a me-shaped hole in the front door. I understand circumstances mightnt allow it but can you make it a priority to at least start the wheels in motion to move?

i will be on the case to move tomorrow jimmy.
always thought sinks were for washing hands in....turns out i was mistaken....

Call Me Jimmy · 04-11-2014 12:14am

One of the key traits of an asshole is they never even ask the question 'could I be in the wrong here?'.

Gongoozler · 04-11-2014 12:16am

Sorry guys if it came across like I'm being defensive, not at all. Hard to get the right message across through text all the time.

I get ya Jimmy. Not too worried about the work mate. Tbh I care very little about what she thinks or what's going to happen. I might actually get some more work done if she didn't insist on taking to me every five minutes.

I just mean I have to work out is it everyone being defensive and just a series of bad experiences or more to do with how I say things to people. This is what I need help with.

Call Me Jimmy · 04-11-2014 12:22am

Gongoozler wrote: »

Sorry guys of it came across like I'm being defensive, not at all. Hard to get the right message across through text all the time.

I get ya Jimmy. Not too worried about the work mate. Tbh I care very little about what she thinks or what's going to happen. I might actually get some more work done if she didn't insist on taking to me every five minutes.

I just mean I have to work out is it everyone being defensive and just a series of bad experiences or more to do with how I say things to people. This is what I need help with.

Is it possible that people are surprised, say you placate them early on, then they are met with confrontation on an issue, it might be unexpected. Do you lose your temper all of a sudden? Let things slide for ages that grate you in small ways, suffer little things from people, then get angry? The other person doesn't remember or see all the little things that have built up to it so it's like over the top anger to them out of the blue?

fiftythree · 04-11-2014 12:23am

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

Gongoozler it might not be as bad as you think with the workmate. Sure she might have gotten the hump this evening that doesn't mean she'll never speak to ye again. Just keep that in mind.

And as for that bollix ****ting in the sink, jesus he can have the sink. I'd be gone, maybe I'd ask the landlord to kick him out along with a picture of it at least but if landlord wasn't going to kick him out there'd be a me-shaped hole in the front door. I understand circumstances mightnt allow it but can you make it a priority to at least start the wheels in motion to move?

totally agree jimmy, but my situation is precarious
and i can't afford to be homeless again.not strong enough to take that now.
so where i am, i am, for now.
i am looking to build a way out of here slowly.
but in the name of god why does anyone s##te in a sink.
can't get my head around that one.

Gongoozler · 04-11-2014 12:26am

I very much doubt it. I curse all day long at work so definitely not unexpected there. But at the same time another colleague had described me as calm. Which is weird. I suppose to some people I could seem generally quiet and calm.

I don't know that that's it though.

CZ 453 · 04-11-2014 1:19am

fiftythree wrote: »

totally agree jimmy, but my situation is precarious
and i can't afford to be homeless again.not strong enough to take that now.
so where i am, i am, for now.
i am looking to build a way out of here slowly.
but in the name of god why does anyone s##te in a sink.
can't get my head around that one.

What time period are you looking at before you can get out?

fiftythree · 04-11-2014 2:10am

CZ 453 wrote: »

What time period are you looking at before you can get out?

rent due on 11th so hopefully by then.

cookie24 · 04-11-2014 8:33am

fiftythree wrote: »

rent due on 11th so hopefully by then.

Hopefully yo can get out by then. Theres only so much you can put up with and $hit in a sink is certainly that. Good luck, hopefully a move will be quick and easy.

In other news I'm starting my lithium today. That'll be some cocktail. Lithium, valium and anafril

cookie24 · 04-11-2014 8:38am

Here's a great quote from a so-so movie called Assassins. It kind of fits the theme ye were discussing last night:

Once upon a time, there was this little sparrow, who while flying south for the winter froze solid and fell to the ground. And then to make matters worse the cow crapped on him, but the manure was all warm and it defrosted him. So there he is, he's warm and he's happy to be alive and he starts to sing. A cat comes along and he clears off the manure and he looks at the little bird and then he eats him.

And the moral of the story is this: everyone who craps on you is not necessarily your enemy, and everyone who gets you out of crap is not necessarily your friend, and if you're warm and happy no matter where you are you should just keep your big mouth shut.

CZ 453 · 04-11-2014 2:05pm

cookie24 wrote: »

Here's a great quote from a so-so movie called Assassins. It kind of fits the theme ye were discussing last night:

Once upon a time, there was this little sparrow, who while flying south for the winter froze solid and fell to the ground. And then to make matters worse the cow crapped on him, but the manure was all warm and it defrosted him. So there he is, he's warm and he's happy to be alive and he starts to sing. A cat comes along and he clears off the manure and he looks at the little bird and then he eats him.

And the moral of the story is this: everyone who craps on you is not necessarily your enemy, and everyone who gets you out of crap is not necessarily your friend, and if you're warm and happy no matter where you are you should just keep your big mouth shut.

Why did the sparrow set off to go south so late? Why didn't his feathers work at keeping him warm? Why did he not die having been frozen? Why did the cows crap not freeze also? Why didn't the cat and cow freeze also? Do cats often sift through poo? If you were a cat would you eat a sparrow covered in poo?

I'm not buying this story at all! There are too many questions that need to be answered. In the off chance that this actually played out the way it did then I think the cat should almost certainly be sentenced to death.

Anxiety and/or depression discussion.

Comments