Seanie Johnston Kildare Transfer?

largepants · 06-02-2012 1:13pm

AGC wrote: »

I mentioned earlier in the thread about players getting 'poached' by Kildare and was shot down. Supple is the player I was referring to. So to DARK KNIGHT before you come on abusing others try get your facts right.

And you know this to be 100% factual? May I ask how?

tayto lover · 06-02-2012 1:19pm

Lemlin wrote: »

As I said, I'm not upset, I'm annoyed. Several people on this thread have told you why they aren't unhappy about Seanie being dropped yet you continue throwing out the same question but changing the wording e.g. "how are Cavan people happy with their best player being dropped", "how are Cavan fans accepting their best player in years not playing?", "how are Cavan fans accepting an outside manager ahead of one of their own". The same question you've asked about ten different times now in different guises has been answered repeatedly. That you keep asking it and can't move on leads me to believe that you are extremely stupid or you have an agenda. That's where I've drawn my assertion from. I don't have any problem with someone having a different opinion to mine but why keep posting the same question in different guises when it has been repeatedly answered.

As for my arrogance, I've answered every query you've thrown at me. As per the above, you haven't answered a number of mine. You say you're a GAA supporter yet you expect a county manager to put up with a player who's club, a club he has played for for twenty years now, couldn't control last year. Now how does that work out?

Andrews has only managed Louth and Cavan. I can't speak about Louth because I know nothing about Louth football but, as with Cavan, I don't think there was much pedigree there to work with when he arrived. Cavan were knocked out in 2003, after all, by a Cavan team managed by Mattie Kerrigan who were one of the worst Cavan teams I'd ever seen. They were disorganised and all over the place. From looking at the 2004 Championship, Louth beat Antrim in the qualifiers and then lost to Galway, a team they never had a chance of beating, no matter who the manager was. In 2005, they beat Waterford and Roscommon before losing by 3 points to Monaghan, again a team they wouldn't be expecting to beat. So, to say he ruined Louth football appears to be incorrect. Perhaps you could post a few paragraphs on how he ruined it exactly. I've spoken at lengths as to why I think he is working well in cavan so perhaps you could explain in detail the problems in Louth. It might enable us to understand your point and making personal comments about him being a "dictator" a bit more.

Post up the views from Louth again then and I have no problem responding to them.

We are both addressing this board. I don't see too many on here saying that Johnston got a raw deal so forgive me if I don't believe a point you're making which conveniently backs up your view but that you have absolutely no proof of. I could post up the stories I've been told both about Johnston in terms of both the Gaels and county camps but I have chosen not to. Why? Because I don't know which are true and which are not and I've absolutely nothing to back them up as more than hearsay. I'm a Cavan supporter living in Cavan and, as I said, the texts going round the county are about Johnston, not about Andrews. If this Board is indicative of the general Cavan supporter, which I think it is, Johnston isn't receiving much support. Would you not agree?

And how exactly could we have done with Johnston today? Again, another stupid point. The Cavan fowards scored 1-13 yesterday. The problem was in the backline where 4-9 was conceded and James Reilly made a bad mistake for one of the goals.

You were the one who said that your whole county was behind Andrews and mentioned the Hogan Stand discussion boards. When I checked this out I find that your account is not true as there are plenty of Cavan posters who are very unhappy with Andrews and the way he treated Johnson. So you were telling porkies. Some of them are also saying that he was dropped because he questioned the way Andrews is running things. Maybe you should visit it again and concentrate this time. Those posters would have the same opinions as many Louth supporters had when he was in charge here.
I personally don't give a damn about football in Cavan but I will comment when I see drivel posted and it totally one-sided in favour of an unproven manager. At least you agreed that Sean Johnston is a great footballer. Cavan scored 1--13 yesterday and conceded 4--9. The supporters don't seem as happy as you about it with loads of chances created but a lot missed.
http://www.hoganstand.com/Cavan/MessagePage.aspx?TopicID=72154&Latest=1#Latest

All not happy in Cavan it seems.

AGC · 06-02-2012 1:22pm

largepants wrote: »

And you know this to be 100% factual? May I ask how?

As i said to DARK KNIGHT i won't say how on a public forum but I was proved right. What appeared in the papers at the weekend is old news which happened months ago. And at that time Supple made it clear it would not be happening.

lala88 · 06-02-2012 1:36pm

After losing the Superbowl last night rumor has it Tom Brady is going to join Kildar. Also Tevez has been spotted in Newbridge

largepants · 06-02-2012 1:48pm

AGC wrote: »

largepants wrote: »

And you know this to be 100% factual? May I ask how?

As i said to DARK KNIGHT i won't say how on a public forum but I was proved right. What appeared in the papers at the weekend is old news which happened months ago. And at that time Supple made it clear it would not be happening.

Proved right? By something that appeared in a newspaper? Fair enough so.

largepants · 06-02-2012 1:50pm

lala88 wrote: »

After losing the Superbowl last night rumor has it Tom Brady is going to join Kildar. Also Tevez has been spotted in Newbridge

Robbed from Hs.

AGC · 06-02-2012 1:57pm

largepants wrote: »

Proved right? By something that appeared in a newspaper? Fair enough so.

It has been doing the rounds for months and isn't a new story.

Why do some people have such issues with the truth??

largepants · 06-02-2012 2:12pm

AGC wrote: »

largepants wrote: »

Proved right? By something that appeared in a newspaper? Fair enough so.

It has been doing the rounds for months and isn't a new story.

Why do some people have such issues with the truth??

Because I dont know if it is the truth. Just because its old news doesnt mean its true either.

Look Im not saying its not true. But I'll not believe everything I read on a website either.

AGC · 06-02-2012 2:15pm

No matter how people know it's true is irrelevant, he has done interviews saying how he was approached.

Lemlin · 06-02-2012 2:21pm

tayto lover wrote: »

You were the one who said that your whole county was behind Andrews and mentioned the Hogan Stand discussion boards. When I checked this out I find that your account is not true as there are plenty of Cavan posters who are very unhappy with Andrews and the way he treated Johnson. So you were telling porkies. Some of them are also saying that he was dropped because he questioned the way Andrews is running things. Maybe you should visit it again and concentrate this time. Those posters would have the same opinions as many Louth supporters had when he was in charge here.
I personally don't give a damn about football in Cavan but I will comment when I see drivel posted and it totally one-sided in favour of an unproven manager. At least you agreed that Sean Johnston is a great footballer. Cavan scored 1--13 yesterday and conceded 4--9. The supporters don't seem as happy as you about it with loads of chances created but a lot missed.
http://www.hoganstand.com/Cavan/MessagePage.aspx?TopicID=72154&Latest=1#Latest

All not happy in Cavan it seems.

There's no doubting Seanie is a great footballer. Just like there's no doubting you're a gob****e with nothing more than a hidden agenda. I've asked a number of queries of you and they are all conveniently ignored in each response.

Until such time as you answer my queries, I'll be sticking to one time honoured mantra - Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Louth were ****e when Val arrived and they were still ****e when he left. Cavan were ****e when he arrived and they may still be ****e when he leaves but at least it appears that the new players won't be coming into a panel that is ridiculously poor in terms of commitment and morale.

Hammer Archer · 06-02-2012 2:35pm

largepants wrote: »

Because I dont know if it is the truth. Just because its old news doesnt mean its true either.

Look Im not saying its not true. But I'll not believe everything I read on a website either.

What makes you think it may not be true? Why would Shane Supple lie about being approached by Kildare? Also, if he was lying, surely the Kildare management would come out and deny they ever approached him. As of yet, I haven't heard a word from Kildare denying there was an approach which leads me to believe they did approach Supple.

MickySticks · 06-02-2012 2:39pm

lala88 wrote: »

After losing the Superbowl last night rumor has it Tom Brady is going to join Kildar. Also Tevez has been spotted in Newbridge

Good one :rolleyes:

BTW learn how to spell.

cruiserweight · 06-02-2012 2:50pm

Lemlin wrote: »

There's no doubting Seanie is a great footballer. Just like there's no doubting you're a gob****e with nothing more than a hidden agenda. I've asked a number of queries of you and they are all conveniently ignored in each response.

Until such time as you answer my queries, I'll be sticking to one time honoured mantra - Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Louth were ****e when Val arrived and they were still ****e when he left. Cavan were ****e when he arrived and they may still be ****e when he leaves but at least it appears that the new players won't be coming into a panel that is ridiculously poor in terms of commitment and morale.

I think a break is in order, please remember attack the post and not the poster

cruiserweight · 06-02-2012 2:55pm

MickySticks wrote: »

BTW learn how to spell.

BTW cut out this type of crap

premierstone · 06-02-2012 4:07pm

dcr22B wrote: »

Supple rejected Kildare

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/supple-rejected-kildare-182574.html

Unbelievable, piss off and get your own players instead of trying to poach from other counties. Someone in HQ needs to do something about this, it's making an absolute mockery of the intercounty system!

Surely the current incumbents on the Kildare panel must be feeling uneasy reading all this stuff.

dcr22B wrote: »

John Fogarty does not have bullsh1t stories published.

Kildare GAA won't comment on it as it's getting embarassing at this stage.

Check the birth counties of the Dublin Hurling panel and see if it changes you opinion on the matter

AGC · 06-02-2012 4:36pm

premierstone wrote: »

Check the birth counties of the Dublin Hurling panel and see if it changes you opinion on the matter

Absolutely no relevance to this argument. The few lads that are not born in Dublin but play for Dublin would have been approached after making the move. Not contacted in the hope of them making the switch

Just looking at last years Leinster final, was it just 1 player Dublin had that was from outside Dublin starting?

I don’t have a major issue with players playing for other counties if work, family etc make them live in that county and they choose to swap. My problem is the likes of Johnstone wanting to switch even though having no connection and the likes of Kildare looking at getting players to switch with no connection what so ever to Kildare.

I am sure other counties do the same.

tayto lover · 06-02-2012 4:39pm

Lemlin wrote: »

There's no doubting Seanie is a great footballer. Just like there's no doubting you're a gob****e with nothing more than a hidden agenda. I've asked a number of queries of you and they are all conveniently ignored in each response.

Until such time as you answer my queries, I'll be sticking to one time honoured mantra - Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Louth were ****e when Val arrived and they were still ****e when he left. Cavan were ****e when he arrived and they may still be ****e when he leaves but at least it appears that the new players won't be coming into a panel that is ridiculously poor in terms of commitment and morale.

So resorting to personal insults is the way to win an argument ? Sad post and says more about you and your debating ability than I could ever say.
Post reported.

premierstone · 06-02-2012 5:52pm

AGC wrote: »

Absolutely no relevance to this argument. The few lads that are not born in Dublin but play for Dublin would have been approached after making the move. Not contacted in the hope of them making the switch

Just looking at last years Leinster final, was it just 1 player Dublin had that was from outside Dublin starting?

I don’t have a major issue with players playing for other counties if work, family etc make them live in that county and they choose to swap. My problem is the likes of Johnstone wanting to switch even though having no connection and the likes of Kildare looking at getting players to switch with no connection what so ever to Kildare.

I am sure other counties do the same.

Off course its relevant we are talking about players playing for a county other than that of their birth county, I am pointing out that a Dublin poster was slating Kildare despite the fact that the Dublin senior hurling panel contains a number of outside players, one of which I know for a fact was approached before moving to Dublin and the dublin county board chairman (Kettle) assured him he would get him a job, which he duly did.

AGC · 06-02-2012 6:18pm

premierstone wrote: »

Off course its relevant we are talking about players playing for a county other than that of their birth county, I am pointing out that a Dublin poster was slating Kildare despite the fact that the Dublin senior hurling panel contains a number of outside players, one of which I know for a fact was approached before moving to Dublin and the dublin county board chairman (Kettle) assured him he would get him a job, which he duly did.

My point is if they are not being approached and are doing it of their own choice due to work, family etc I don't have a massive problem. if like Johnstone or Supple they are being approached I have a major problem with that.

On your second point of the Dublin player, it is wrong and should be stopped. Ryan O'Dwyer?

Hammer Archer · 06-02-2012 6:18pm

premierstone wrote: »

one of which I know for a fact was approached before moving to Dublin and the dublin county board chairman (Kettle) assured him he would get him a job, which he duly did.

Which player is that? And does that player permanently live in Dublin now? Do the rest of the Dublin hurlers live in Dublin at the moment? Because Johnston certainly lives nowhere near Kildare.

cruiserweight · 06-02-2012 6:23pm

tayto lover wrote: »

So resorting to personal insults is the way to win an argument ? Sad post and says more about you and your debating ability than I could ever say.
Post reported.

Remember attack the post and not the poster, you are borderline here. Also why the need to say you reported his post? That is tantamount to back seat modding. No more taunting or back seat modding please

MickySticks · 06-02-2012 6:25pm

Johnston trained with St.Kevins yesterday morning, seems like only a matter of time before he is training with Kildare.

largepants · 06-02-2012 6:37pm

AGC wrote: »

My point is if they are not being approached and are doing it of their own choice due to work, family etc I don't have a massive problem. if like Johnstone or Supple they are being approached I have a major problem with that.

On your second point of the Dublin player, it is wrong and should be stopped. Ryan O'Dwyer?

But it wasn't stopped. And there wasn't a thread on boards as long as this about it either. The media didn't seem too interested in it at the time either.

Again I'd like to point out that I'm not of favour of this transfer. But seriously as a Dub you can't come one here pontificating about intercounty transfers when your own county has benefitted from same.

AGC · 06-02-2012 6:43pm

largepants wrote: »

But it wasn't stopped. And there wasn't a thread on boards as long as this about it either. The media didn't seem too interested in it at the time either.

Again I'd like to point out that I'm not of favour of this transfer. But seriously as a Dub you can't come one here pontificating about intercounty transfers when your own county has benefitted from same.

I have clearly said I disagree with them in the extent of 'poaching'. Lads moving for genuine reasons family, work etc... although not ideal should be allowed with all parties agreeing.

I am having a moan at Kildare(And any county) looking for players who have no links to the county just to boost there squad. If it is to start being as blatant as this it will lead to an almost open market policy.

largepants · 06-02-2012 7:06pm

Seanie Johnston is quoted in todays paper as saying he approached Kildare looking to play. He also stated he is living in Straffan.

Hammer Archer · 06-02-2012 7:22pm

largepants wrote: »

Seanie Johnston is quoted in todays paper as saying he approached Kildare looking to play. He also stated he is living in Straffan.

I seriously doubt he's living in Straffan seeing as he still works almost two hours away in Cavan. I'd also have my doubts that McGeeney or anyone in the Kildare setup had nothing to do with bringing him on board.

largepants · 06-02-2012 7:31pm

Hammer Archer wrote: »

I seriously doubt he's living in Straffan seeing as he still works almost two hours away in Cavan. I'd also have my doubts that McGeeney or anyone in the Kildare setup had nothing to do with bringing him on board.

So its ok to accept quotes from Supple but not from Johnston. :rolleyes:

rpurfield · 06-02-2012 7:31pm

seanie invited anyone that wants around to his in straffan for a cuppa.anyone take him up on his invite

Hammer Archer · 06-02-2012 7:59pm

largepants wrote: »

So its ok to accept quotes from Supple but not from Johnston. :rolleyes:

Supple has nothing to gain from saying that Kildare approached him which is why I do believe what he said.
Johnston has everything to lose if he says he's not living in Kildare as it will prevent him from getting an intercounty transfer. Also saying McGeeney approached him won't exactly make McGeeney look good and may hamper his prospects of getting on the team if the transfer goes through.
So it's not just a case of accepting one player's quotes over another with no reasoning behind it, no matter how many rolly eye smileys you make.
Could you propose an explanation as to why Johnston would move from Cavan Town where he works to Straffan out of the blue?

premierstone · 06-02-2012 8:45pm

AGC wrote: »

My point is if they are not being approached and are doing it of their own choice due to work, family etc I don't have a massive problem. if like Johnstone or Supple they are being approached I have a major problem with that.

On your second point of the Dublin player, it is wrong and should be stopped. Ryan O'Dwyer?

Hammer Archer wrote: »

Which player is that? And does that player permanently live in Dublin now? Do the rest of the Dublin hurlers live in Dublin at the moment? Because Johnston certainly lives nowhere near Kildare.

I really dont know what the legality of namig a player here is on a public forum, but I'm sure people can add two and two and get 4.

Hammer are you certain that Seanie doesnt reside in Kildare, the man himself says otherwise.

BTW just for the record and this is not directed at anyone in particular just wanted to make it clear that I dont agree with the Johnson transfer or any intercounty transfer for that matter, but I do think it is a bit rich of the Cavan county board to block hes move when the man they appointed as manager has more or less told him he's no longer wanted. The line that they are spinning that they have concerns over hes actual residence, that is not their concern it is Kildares.

Hammer Archer · 06-02-2012 9:01pm

premierstone wrote: »

Hammer are you certain that Seanie doesnt reside in Kildare, the man himself says otherwise.

Of course he would say that, if he said otherwise he would have no chance of a transfer. And no, I'm not certain that he doesn't reside in Kildare but the evidence available really makes me believe he isn't.

The reason I am sceptical of his residence in Kildare is simply because he still works in Cavan and until recently, he still wanted to play with Cavan Gaels yet tog out for Kildare. Now he works as a teacher so why on Earth would he travel hours spending huge amounts of money to travel the 2 hours each way for work and training in Cavan? It would make no sense for someone to do this which is why I feel he still lives in Cavan.

premierstone wrote: »

but I do think it is a bit rich of the Cavan county board to block hes move when the man they appointed as manager has more or less told him he's no longer wanted. The line that they are spinning that they have concerns over hes actual residence, that is not their concern it is Kildares.

Why should they approve an intercounty transfer if they feel it's against the rules of the GAA? To me, it's the right decision as they've left it to the CCCC to decide.

cavan4sam · 06-02-2012 11:47pm

i think that maybe it might be a better move to transfer mr andrews to his native county rather than our prized posession to kildare , a lot of discontent in the camp mr andrews is a fairly stubborn individual with a lot of favourites on his panel , results WILL show this . if the transfer goes through i'll be the very first to wish the best of luck to seanie but its regretable it has come to this

cavan4sam · 07-02-2012 12:00am

lala88 wrote: »

After losing the Superbowl last night rumor has it Tom Brady is going to join Kildar. Also Tevez has been spotted in Newbridge

untrue re. brady he is joining belturbet rory o moores the club of his grandfather

tayto lover · 07-02-2012 12:18am

cavan4sam wrote: »

i think that maybe it might be a better move to transfer mr andrews to his native county rather than our prized posession to kildare , a lot of discontent in the camp mr andrews is a fairly stubborn individual with a lot of favourites on his panel , results WILL show this . if the transfer goes through i'll be the very first to wish the best of luck to seanie but its regretable it has come to this

He was the same in Louth.

lala88 · 07-02-2012 12:22am

largepants wrote: »

Seanie Johnston is quoted in todays paper as saying he approached Kildare looking to play. He also stated he is living in Straffan.

I doubt that very much. He hardly just woke up and desided he wanted to play with Kildare

Syferus · 07-02-2012 5:18am

lala88 wrote: »

I doubt that very much. He hardly just woke up and desided he wanted to play with Kildare

A local county has an All-Ireland contending team missing a natural forward or two and you just happen to be one of the best forwards not on a county panel? It's not that hard to imagine.

Gophur · 07-02-2012 11:07am

premierstone wrote: »

............. I do think it is a bit rich of the Cavan county board to block hes move when the man they appointed as manager has more or less told him he's no longer wanted. The line that they are spinning that they have concerns over hes actual residence, that is not their concern it is Kildares.

Why is it a bit rich? Cavan are genuinely concerned they are being asked to rubber-stamp a , possible, fraudulent transfer application? Seanie is working in Cavan and is not commuting from Straffan on a daily basis. The Cavan officials know this yet are being asked to sign an application they know is wrong.

Cavan are correct in refusing to sign the transfer application.

The only way Seanie can afford to move from Cavan to Straffan, and continue to work in Cavan, is if someone else is paying for the expense. For him to suggest he's doing this out of his own initiative and paying for it out of his own pocket, is taking the pi55.

AGC · 07-02-2012 11:58am

largepants wrote: »

So its ok to accept quotes from Supple but not from Johnston. :rolleyes:

I have explained to you even by PM why the Supple story is true.

The reason people don't believe Johnston is that he would have a 2 hour commute to work and his neighbour was on this thread earlier saying where he does live!!(Yes as reliable as quotes but as good info as any). Also Johnston wants to move, Supple doesn't.

Would you commute from Straffan to a school in Cavan 5 days a week?

MickySticks · 07-02-2012 3:12pm

cavan4sam wrote: »

i think that maybe it might be a better move to transfer mr andrews to his native county rather than our prized posession to kildare , a lot of discontent in the camp mr andrews is a fairly stubborn individual with a lot of favourites on his panel , results WILL show this . if the transfer goes through i'll be the very first to wish the best of luck to seanie but its regretable it has come to this

Has Michael Lyng returned to the Cavan panel? I hear Andrews has taken a dislike to him as well, Lyng and Johnston are probably the best two footballers in Cavan. It's a sad indictment on Val Andrews.

Hammer Archer · 07-02-2012 5:17pm

AGC wrote: »

The reason people don't believe Johnston is that he would have a 2 hour commute to work and his neighbour was on this thread earlier saying where he does live!!

Would you commute from Straffan to a school in Cavan 5 days a week?

Gophur wrote: »

Seanie is working in Cavan and is not commuting from Straffan on a daily basis. The Cavan officials know this yet are being asked to sign an application they know is wrong.

Cavan are correct in refusing to sign the transfer application.

The only way Seanie can afford to move from Cavan to Straffan, and continue to work in Cavan, is if someone else is paying for the expense. For him to suggest he's doing this out of his own initiative and paying for it out of his own pocket, is taking the pi55.

The above has been pointed out countless times yet no one seems to have any comeback whatsoever to it.
So can someone explain why a (presumably not too highly paid) teacher would move from the doorstep of the school in which they teach to a place 2 hours and 3 tolls away?

To Alcohol · 07-02-2012 5:23pm

Hammer Archer wrote: »

The above has been pointed out countless times yet no one seems to have any comeback whatsoever to it.
So can someone explain why a (presumably not too highly paid) teacher would move from the doorstep of the school in which they teach to a place 2 hours and 3 tolls away?

All for the honour of wearing the All White jersey. Why wouldn't he. He's a privileged man.:D

ebbsy · 07-02-2012 5:26pm

No point in going to the flourbags. Kildare require players who can score goals, Johnston scores points.

DARK-KNIGHT · 07-02-2012 5:32pm

Archer he wants to commute as Kildare and particularly stead fan is a beautiful area!!

Plus he can wear the lily white jersey that's reason alone!!!

MickySticks · 07-02-2012 5:46pm

Straffan is the home of the K-Club and Johnston is a huge golf fan!

MickySticks · 07-02-2012 5:47pm

ebbsy wrote: »

No point in going to the flourbags. Kildare require players who can score goals, Johnston scores points.

Well if he scores 3 points thats a goal ain't it? :rolleyes:

That would be funny if you weren't from Wicklow.

premierstone · 07-02-2012 5:49pm

Hammer Archer wrote: »

The above has been pointed out countless times yet no one seems to have any comeback whatsoever to it.
So can someone explain why a (presumably not too highly paid) teacher would move from the doorstep of the school in which they teach to a place 2 hours and 3 tolls away?

Is he not in a relationship with a Kildare woman?? Thought I had read that somewhere.

MickySticks · 07-02-2012 7:14pm

premierstone wrote: »

Is he not in a relationship with a Kildare woman?? Thought I had read that somewhere.

No he is not.

DARK-KNIGHT · 07-02-2012 7:33pm

He likes fishing and the Liffey passes at straffan beside k club

Tom Joad · 07-02-2012 10:04pm

MickySticks wrote: »

Has Michael Lyng returned to the Cavan panel? I hear Andrews has taken a dislike to him as well, Lyng and Johnston are probably the best two footballers in Cavan. It's a sad indictment on Val Andrews.

Haven't heard about Lyng returning. I don't understand this talk of Andrews taking a dislike to players and from what I heard there is no discontent in the panel!! I really wish we could move on from the Johnston stuff - he's gone end off. The crap that has been talked around the county since the game against Wexford is unbelievable - Johnston isn't a defender or a goalkeeper so how he would have prevented 4 goals is beyond me. You wont win games conceding 4 goals.

There is also an unbelievable arrogance that really annoys me about some Cavan supporters that still think we are better than teams like Wexford - fact is we are not and are in the bottom 7/8 county teams in the country - with or without Johnston.

We have had this for way too long in Cavan, build up team to a ridiculous level based on very little, act with shock when we have a poor league or get knocked out of the championship, turn our arses at the qualifiers because they are beneath us, then round on the manager!!! Look where this has got us in the last twenty years - it has to stop.

I would say that the current situation shows that Andrews has the guts to take on the so called superstar on the panel that doesn't appear to be committed to the cause. Remember the debacle in Cork two years ago or the Oxegen incident!!! I for one will back Andrews in any decision he makes that leads to a united/ disciplined team that goes on the pitch and fights for the jersey. Its a young team that has to make its mistakes and losing to Wexford in Wexford in February is no disgrace - lets move on and back the team and the manager and hopefully we might get a bit of pride back in the jersey. We've tried the other way and it doesn't work.

Sorry Mickysticks this is not a rant against you - just quoted your post because of the reference to Lyng.

Ballocavendish · 08-02-2012 5:31pm

Tom Joad wrote: »

Haven't heard about Lyng returning. I don't understand this talk of Andrews taking a dislike to players and from what I heard there is no discontent in the panel!! I really wish we could move on from the Johnston stuff - he's gone end off. The crap that has been talked around the county since the game against Wexford is unbelievable - Johnston isn't a defender or a goalkeeper so how he would have prevented 4 goals is beyond me. You wont win games conceding 4 goals.

There is also an unbelievable arrogance that really annoys me about some Cavan supporters that still think we are better than teams like Wexford - fact is we are not and are in the bottom 7/8 county teams in the country - with or without Johnston.

We have had this for way too long in Cavan, build up team to a ridiculous level based on very little, act with shock when we have a poor league or get knocked out of the championship, turn our arses at the qualifiers because they are beneath us, then round on the manager!!! Look where this has got us in the last twenty years - it has to stop.

I would say that the current situation shows that Andrews has the guts to take on the so called superstar on the panel that doesn't appear to be committed to the cause. Remember the debacle in Cork two years ago or the Oxegen incident!!! I for one will back Andrews in any decision he makes that leads to a united/ disciplined team that goes on the pitch and fights for the jersey. Its a young team that has to make its mistakes and losing to Wexford in Wexford in February is no disgrace - lets move on and back the team and the manager and hopefully we might get a bit of pride back in the jersey. We've tried the other way and it doesn't work.

Sorry Mickysticks this is not a rant against you - just quoted your post because of the reference to Lyng.

What is this oxegen incident you talk about??

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