Supplements

nbrady20009 · 20-05-2011 11:52am

The Guvnor wrote: »

L-Glutamine should be ok - imo it is rank when mixed with whey but ok on it's own with juice.

As for BCAA - yours are non instant hence the clumping - not an issue but they really taste fowl even the better tasting instant taste fowl.

Best bet IMO is to mix the bcaa liberally with something like Rose's Lime Cordial or Vimto - I prefer the citrus flavours and others prefer the berry taste.

That is your only option but it will still not taste too exciting but will be manageable!

L-Glutamine with water was grand this morning, and the lime cordial worked like a treat! Cheers Guvnor would have never have though of that.

The Guvnor · 22-05-2011 12:22pm

Out of interest how much cordial did you use and how much BCAA?

Glad it worked well!

nbrady20009 · 22-05-2011 1:12pm

The Guvnor wrote: »

Out of interest how much cordial did you use and how much BCAA?

Glad it worked well!

A splash of cordial, about 3 times as much water, and 5g of BCAA. All into a bottle and given a vigorous shake.

King of Kings · 22-05-2011 3:08pm

Mick990 wrote: »

Hey peeps,

I just bought Nutrition x pro matrix as i'm trying to lose weight and just looking on the directions it says to take three shakes , one before training then one before your next two meals . Just wondering is this the proper way to use it as it kinda seems a bit excessive or if anyone else has used it differently ??

Any help here would be greatly appreciated

i take 1 with breakfast but I use Nutrition x whey post work out.
But if you don't have a separate whey - I'd take another post work out

If i was taking another matrix I'd take it pre training - I generally don't but that's cos I don't eat a pre training meal unless it's lunch or dinner time.

The Guvnor · 22-05-2011 6:31pm

nbrady20009 wrote: »

A splash of cordial, about 3 times as much water, and 5g of BCAA. All into a bottle and given a vigorous shake.

I was doing 500mls water 100mls cordial and 20 grams BCAA (instant - ish).

drakezoid · 22-05-2011 11:28pm

has anyone here bought anything off supplementcentre.com? the price rise of whey on myprotein is putting me off buying there again, prices seem pretty good at this place.

RobAMerc · 23-05-2011 11:16am

Hi guy's,

Was talking to a buddy of mine who recommended Jack 3d to me.
He's the type of dude with more money than sense and would pretty much buy everything they sold him in the shop so I take his advice pretty lightly.
But having looked it up, it seems to get a good bit of praise.
Anyone here any experience of it?

Thanks
Rob

boomtown84 · 23-05-2011 11:41am

RobAMerc wrote: »

Hi guy's,

Was talking to a buddy of mine who recommended Jack 3d to me.
He's the type of dude with more money than sense and would pretty much buy everything they sold him in the shop so I take his advice pretty lightly.
But having looked it up, it seems to get a good bit of praise.
Anyone here any experience of it?

Thanks
Rob

Yeah it's great stuff if you're a fan of heart attacks and don't like sleep!:P
nah....it's a good pre workout drink, in that it gives you bags of energy but it's verrry strong so don't over do it.

d-gal · 23-05-2011 4:00pm

RobAMerc wrote: »

Hi guy's,

Was talking to a buddy of mine who recommended Jack 3d to me.
He's the type of dude with more money than sense and would pretty much buy everything they sold him in the shop so I take his advice pretty lightly.
But having looked it up, it seems to get a good bit of praise.
Anyone here any experience of it?

Thanks
Rob

If you are going for an ultra concentrated pre workout then go for c4 by cellucor. Mich better blend. Google it for reviews against jack3d. Only just after getting into Ireland recently

RobAMerc · 23-05-2011 4:13pm

d-gal wrote: »

If you are going for an ultra concentrated pre workout then go for c4 by cellucor. Mich better blend. Google it for reviews against jack3d. Only just after getting into Ireland recently

Thanks - it certainly gets good reviews. Where can it be got here ?

Rob

Limousine Fred · 23-05-2011 8:31pm

RobAMerc wrote: »

Hi guy's,

Was talking to a buddy of mine who recommended Jack 3d to me.
He's the type of dude with more money than sense and would pretty much buy everything they sold him in the shop so I take his advice pretty lightly.
But having looked it up, it seems to get a good bit of praise.
Anyone here any experience of it?

Thanks
Rob

Yea couldn't recommend it enough tbh wouldn't go back to working out without it now if it wasn't for breaking creatine cycles!!

If you do go for it start off with one scoop for a week and build from there, I've never taken the three at one time, usually take 2 rounded scoops!!

Limousine Fred · 23-05-2011 8:51pm

https://www.store.cellucor.eu/products/C4-Extreme.html

Couldn't an irish site with it, might give it a go meself!!:D

swededmonkey · 24-05-2011 9:39pm

hey,

I'm looking for a post training shake with protein, glutamine and amino acids.
I really want to avoid creatine, as when i started taking it, my weight ballooned up and this is something i'm looking to avoid.

I do a mix of weight training with 30 mins cardio about 3-4 times per week and looking to lose weight but add lean muscle, basically look better.

thanks all

AceCard Jones · 25-05-2011 11:00pm

Hi all,

I've been at the Gym since the beginning of the year and have done weights since a few weeks in. I've been steadily working my way up the weights and getting more complex programs done up for me by my gym instructor.

When I initially joined the gym I was a bit over weight and over the 5 months I've lost 90% of the weight I wanted to lose doing mostly lifting and a bit of cardio. (2 & 3/4 stone)

So since I've been eating at a calorie deficit I've been supplementing with Whey protein for a couple of months now and have experienced some modest growth in the right places while lowering measurements in the right places also.

I've gotten to the point now where the weights/programs are getting quite hard, and pushing through the workout is getting more and more difficult, so my question is would it be majorly beneficial to me to also start on Creatine?

I am eager to gain size and strength but am also not prepared to put my health at risk in the immediate or long term to do so. I've read such conflicting information about Creatine all over the place, and talking to people in the know doesn't really help either as they all contradict each other.

People who use it will say I'm mad not to have started on it ages ago, while those who don't will go on about side effects and how it's not needed.
On the note of side effects are there any notable ones? For example I've heard it can damage your liver over time and that it's bad for you in general, while also reading studies have shown little or no negative side to Creatine.
So I'm conflicted about what to do.

Also need info on dosage, obviously directions come with the product but some experts around the net recommend 20-25g of saturation for the first 5 days and then 5-10 grams daily from then on for 6-8 weeks then start the cycle again. What do you guys think?

Lastly I'm not sure whether to go with the powder or the capsules. The capsules save me having to make another shake alongside my whey which saves time and effort but means dosage isn't customisable. Thoughts?

I'm heading into town tomorrow to that BioTech shop in the Ilac centre so would appreciate any info asap. Thanks in advance.

Mellor · 26-05-2011 6:32am

AceCard Jones wrote: »

I am eager to gain size and strength but am also not prepared to put my health at risk in the immediate or long term to do so. I've read such conflicting information about Creatine all over the place, and talking to people in the know doesn't really help either as they all contradict each other.

There's plenty of stuff written on creatine, a lot of it is nonsense. The fact that sunday papers refer to it as a steroid should highlight the fact that there is nonsense out there.
Half of the "people in the know", don't know what they are talking about.

Also need info on dosage, obviously directions come with the product but some experts around the net recommend 20-25g of saturation for the first 5 days and then 5-10 grams daily from then on for 6-8 weeks then start the cycle again. What do you guys think?

The general accepted idea is that the loading phase is a myth pushed by the manufacturers, not much better than 5g a day.

With a loading phase cycle for 6 weeks you use 310grams (25g x 5 + 5g x 37)
5g a day is 210g

You'll end up buying 50% more creatine, you can see why they might push this loading phase.

Lastly I'm not sure whether to go with the powder or the capsules. The capsules save me having to make another shake alongside my whey which saves time and effort but means dosage isn't customisable. Thoughts?

5g powder mixed in a drink isn't nearly as heavily as a whey shake, you could even toss it into the shake if you wanted.
Capsules are alot more expensive, compare caps to powder in terms of gram for gram when you go in to the shop

TommyKnocker · 26-05-2011 7:47am

AceCard Jones wrote: »

Hi all,

...

I've gotten to the point now where the weights/programs are getting quite hard, and pushing through the workout is getting more and more difficult, so my question is would it be majorly beneficial to me to also start on Creatine?

...

My First question is what do you expect from Creatine with regards to the statement you made above?

I am not sure of the exact figure but it is a fact that firstly Creatine does not work for everybody. Some folks see no benefit from taking Creatine.

Secondly, Creatine is not a magic powder/potion which will give you heaps more energy and suddenly make your tough workouts easier. At best it will give you an extra rep or two on your heavy sets.

So my advice is to do a little (more) research of the purported benefits of supplementing with Creatine and understand what it is supposed to do for you and be realistic in your expections for results, then make up your mind.

AceCard Jones · 26-05-2011 9:11am

TommyKnocker wrote:

My First question is what do you expect from Creatine with regards to the statement you made above?

TommyKnocker wrote:

At best it will give you an extra rep or two on your heavy sets.

That's about what I was expecting, and any extra reps I can make easier is good enough for me. Also it helps add mass through Hydration if I understand it right so will help towards my goal in that department too.

On the note of doing more research, I've done quite a bit and came here as I found it conflicting and difficult to distinguish between truth and myth.

I got some info I found to make sense here:

http://www.abcbodybuilding.com/creatine%20myths%20and_facts.htm

But that could also be wrong in places I don't know.

Mellor wrote:

The general accepted idea is that the loading phase is a myth pushed by the manufacturers, not much better than 5g a day.

With a loading phase cycle for 6 weeks you use 310grams (25g x 5 + 5g x 37)
5g a day is 210g

You'll end up buying 50% more creatine, you can see why they might push this loading phase.

So just go with 5g a day from the beginning? And should I take breaks from it after a certain point and if so for how long? Also I work out 3 days a week and do walking/cardio most other days, should I still take Creatine every day?

Mellor wrote:

5g powder mixed in a drink isn't nearly as heavily as a whey shake, you could even toss it into the shake if you wanted.
Capsules are alot more expensive, compare caps to powder in terms of gram for gram when you go in to the shop

Mixing the shakes sounds like a good idea, hopefully I can get either flavourless or the same flavour as my whey.

Only other thing I can think of right now is, is there any brand that's better than others or is it all the same as long as you buy it in a good store?

TommyKnocker · 26-05-2011 9:29am

AceCard Jones wrote: »

That's about what I was expecting, and any extra reps I can make easier is good enough for me. Also it helps add mass through Hydration if I understand it right so will help towards my goal in that department too.

I was not trying to be smart. It just that you see posts here from lots of guys who think that supplements are some kind of magic potion. I just wasn't sure if you fell into this bracket also

AceCard Jones wrote: »

On the note of doing more research, I've done quite a bit and came here as I found it conflicting and difficult to distinguish between truth and myth.

I got some info I found to make sense here:

http://www.abcbodybuilding.com/creatine%20myths%20and_facts.htm

But that could also be wrong in places I don't know.

As above I advised further research so that you know what to expect from Creatine.

AceCard Jones wrote: »

So just go with 5g a day from the beginning? And should I take breaks from it after a certain point and if so for how long? Also I work out 3 days a week and do walking/cardio most other days, should I still take Creatine every day?

5g-10g a day seems to be the doseage usually recommended. I usually take 5g in the morning (around 09:00) at my desk with 2 scoops of whey mixed with coconut milk.

From my reading on Creatine, there is no proof that it is detrimental to health and I don't believe that there is a requirement to cycle it, so personally I don't.

AceCard Jones wrote: »

Mixing the shakes sounds like a good idea, hopefully I can get either flavourless or the same flavour as my whey.

Only other thing I can think of right now is, is there any brand that's better than others or is it all the same as long as you buy it in a good store?

I have heard of folks mixing it with fruit juice or just plain water and downing it. I have always just mixed it into a shake. I usually have a shake at 09:00 in the morning at my desk (convenience) and another after training. I mix 5g of creatine into both of these.

This is the brand I use personally and the outlet I buy from. You can order online or they have a store in Dun Laoghaire and Dundrum. This is a flavourless version, so ideal for mixing into whey.

Also this creatine is made with Creapure which is suposed to be a purer type of creatine and I watched a vid on youtub which showed that Creapure Creatine mixed quicked and more fully in room tempature water than just ordinary Creatine Mono, so I always use a Creapure creatine.

AceCard Jones · 26-05-2011 3:05pm

TommyKnocker wrote:

I was not trying to be smart. It just that you see posts here from lots of guys who think that supplements are some kind of magic potion. I just wasn't sure if you fell into this bracket also

No worries,

TommyKnocker wrote:

5g-10g a day seems to be the doseage usually recommended. I usually take 5g in the morning (around 09:00) at my desk with 2 scoops of whey mixed with coconut milk.

From my reading on Creatine, there is no proof that it is detrimental to health and I don't believe that there is a requirement to cycle it, so personally I don't.

So you take 5g once a day? Am wondering myself whether to go with 5g or 10g a day.

TommyKnocker wrote:

This is the brand I use personally and the outlet I buy from. You can order online or they have a store in Dun Laoghaire and Dundrum. This is a flavourless version, so ideal for mixing into whey.

Also this creatine is made with Creapure which is suposed to be a purer type of creatine and I watched a vid on youtub which showed that Creapure Creatine mixed quicked and more fully in room tempature water than just ordinary Creatine Mono, so I always use a Creapure creatine.

I went with this one (In a Tub though):

http://www.biotechusa.com/100-creatine-monohydrate.html

Had gone into town this morning before you had the chance to reply so didn't have the opportunity to check out the stores you mentioned.
There was loads of different Creatine there, this was the first one I looked at:

http://www.biotechusa.com/creapump.html

But it was so high in calories and a bit much for me just trying it out so I went with the first one which is just Mono-hydrate.

Will see how I get on, thanks for all the information.

Degsy · 26-05-2011 4:17pm

Creatine dosage this and creatine loading that..a marketing scam..the stuff doesnt work!!

Hanley · 26-05-2011 4:21pm

Degsy wrote: »

Creatine dosage this and creatine loading that..a marketing scam..the stuff doesnt work!!

B*llox.

Creatine works, and it works very well.

g'em · 26-05-2011 4:35pm

Degsy wrote: »

Creatine dosage this and creatine loading that..a marketing scam..the stuff doesnt work!!

There's journals full of peer-reviewed, verified, scientific studies on a variety of sportsmen and women that have documented quite the opposite to your personal experience.

Creatine works, people just a) get waaaay too bogged down in the myth that is 'loading', b) expect it to be some miracle supplement that can somehow out perform a crappy diet and bad training and c) expect too much from it even when they are doing it right.

edit: or as Hanley so eloquently put it, b*llox

Hanley · 26-05-2011 4:44pm

g'em wrote: »

There's journals full of peer-reviewed, verified, scientific studies on a variety of sportsmen and women that have documented quite the opposite to your personal experience.

Creatine works, people just a) get waaaay too bogged down in the myth that is 'loading', b) expect it to be some miracle supplement that can somehow out perform a crappy diet and bad training and c) expect too much from it even when they are doing it right.

edit: or as Hanley so eloquently put it, b*llox

Never use 74 words when 1 will suffice!

g'em · 26-05-2011 4:46pm

Hanley wrote: »

Never use 74 words when 1 will suffice!

Did you C&P that into word or count it by hand?

Hanley · 26-05-2011 4:49pm

g'em wrote: »

Did you C&P that into word or count it by hand?

tiernanobrien · 26-05-2011 7:15pm

I reckon the reason your weight ballooned was because its usually creatine monohydate in those shakes and so you retained water. The all in one's cost you about 45-55 quid and last about 2 weeks if taken twice daily.
Just buy a regular tub of protein and something like Scivation Xtend or BCAA powder/tables and take them separately. might cost you more up front but you get to control your intake and get far more aminos acids/protein and there'll be less carbs too.

King of Kings · 26-05-2011 9:34pm

You post indicates that your started taking it and yoru weight shot up?
i find it hard that your weight just "ballooned" and creatine is the only culprit.

I'm not having a go - just don't pick the easy candidate to blame.

As for post workout - I've tried Nutrition X RAM and I liked it.

However the best recovery aid I've used for myself is ZMA.

SpaceCowb0y · 27-05-2011 1:18pm

AceCard Jones wrote: »

Hi all,
I've gotten to the point now where the weights/programs are getting quite hard, and pushing through the workout is getting more and more difficult, so my question is would it be majorly beneficial to me to also start on Creatine?

I am eager to gain size and strength but am also not prepared to put my health at risk in the immediate or long term to do so. I've read such conflicting information about Creatine all over the place, and talking to people in the know doesn't really help either as they all contradict each other.

Also need info on dosage, obviously directions come with the product but some experts around the net recommend 20-25g of saturation for the first 5 days and then 5-10 grams daily from then on for 6-8 weeks then start the cycle again. What do you guys think?

Lastly I'm not sure whether to go with the powder or the capsules. The capsules save me having to make another shake alongside my whey which saves time and effort but means dosage isn't customisable. Thoughts?

I'm heading into town tomorrow to that BioTech shop in the Ilac centre so would appreciate any info asap. Thanks in advance.

Watch these videos!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMY73Pqk-pg&feature=fvwrel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmLLSehPe1M&feature=related

Get yourself a good quality creatine monohydrate, something like:
http://www.myprotein.com/ie/products/creapure

high quality german crepure and buy some dextrose sugar for about 2 euro in tesco!

You dont need to do a bulk phase (10 - 20g a day), you will get the ame results over a longer period if u take 5g a day for 3 wks and continue to do so!

As for making an extra shake, why bother? Just throw your creatine and dextrose and whatever else you want in with your whey PWO!

Degsy · 27-05-2011 2:01pm

g'em wrote: »

There's journals full of peer-reviewed, verified, scientific studies on a variety of sportsmen and women that have documented quite the opposite to your personal experience.

Creatine works, people just a) get waaaay too bogged down in the myth that is 'loading', b) expect it to be some miracle supplement that can somehow out perform a crappy diet and bad training and c) expect too much from it even when they are doing it right.

edit: or as Hanley so eloquently put it, b*llox

Well i personally dont think it works,at least not to the extent that justifies anything like its price tag.

think it,like most supplements is a scam aimed at entry-level bicep-curlers who expect to pile weight on with three meals a day,ten mins in the gym and a whole heap of expensive rubbish.

Now,Miss Moderator..if *i* stuck the word "bollocks" onto the end of a post i'd expect a rap on the knuckles from your good self about etiquette and tone of voice...everybody is entitled to thier opinion..i'm just trying to save people some money.

marathonic · 27-05-2011 2:24pm

Degsy wrote: »

Well i personally dont think it works,at least not to the extent that justifies anything like its price tag.

It's price tag from myProtein is €21.84 including delivery for 1kg - and that's using myProteins new 'paddy prices'.

A kilo is 200 servings so, if you take it daily, that's over half a years supply.

Brian? · 27-05-2011 2:55pm

Degsy wrote: »

Now,Miss Moderator..if *i* stuck the word "bollocks" onto the end of a post i'd expect a rap on the knuckles from your good self about etiquette and tone of voice...everybody is entitled to thier opinion..i'm just trying to save people some money.

Enough of the back seat modding, if you don't like something then report it.

The Guvnor · 29-05-2011 4:48pm

Creatine works at different levels for different people.

However I can see both sides of the coin here - if you hear how good something is - expectations go up and most things never live up to the hype much like movies etc.:)

Creatine is affordable nowadays - realistically a kilo will last 3-4 months never half a year! €5-6 a month.

If anyone is a non responder my advice would be try more than one brand and see if there is any difference.

grimloch · 29-05-2011 10:33pm

Someone nominate the cheapest place to get Scivation Xtend.

Best I found is here:

http://www.universalnutrition.ie/viewproduct/164

Limousine Fred · 30-05-2011 12:09am

grimloch wrote: »

Someone nominate the cheapest place to get Scivation Xtend.

Best I found is here:

http://www.universalnutrition.ie/viewproduct/164

http://hpnutrition.net/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=48&zenid=r9tu2radioke54uqhns90b5le1

tommy21 · 30-05-2011 1:00am

Just wondering if anyone has any experience of Holland and Barret's Whey Protein (Precision Engineered) and if its any good (obviously as a support to a proper diet etc.) in terms of protein content? Essentially I want something that will supplement my protein intake as I start off on a weights programme, so an endorsement of this or recommendation of any other would be most welcome.

df1985 · 30-05-2011 5:12pm

Mick990 wrote: »

Hey peeps,

I just bought Nutrition x pro matrix as i'm trying to lose weight and just looking on the directions it says to take three shakes , one before training then one before your next two meals . Just wondering is this the proper way to use it as it kinda seems a bit excessive or if anyone else has used it differently ??

Any help here would be greatly appreciated

I have 2 a day, with 2 big scoops. one round lunchime and another straight after the gym. hope ye got the mint choc one, tastes pretty good just with water.

d'Oracle · 30-05-2011 5:21pm

tommy21 wrote: »

Just wondering if anyone has any experience of Holland and Barret's Whey Protein (Precision Engineered) and if its any good (obviously as a support to a proper diet etc.) in terms of protein content? Essentially I want something that will supplement my protein intake as I start off on a weights programme, so an endorsement of this or recommendation of any other would be most welcome.

In terms of protein content there are better powders out there.
I believe this because I stopped buying it and then bought one with better protein content according to the packaging, which is the plain whey powder from Myprotein.

yesbuddie · 31-05-2011 12:46am

Hi Guys...So I'm buying my first batch of Protein..Wondering can I get tips on which is a good brand to get?? Where is the best place to buy it?

Cheers

Degsy · 31-05-2011 12:47am

The Guvnor wrote: »

If anyone is a non responder my advice would be try more than one brand and see if there is any difference.

Or just up thier food intake and forget about it..

Mellor · 31-05-2011 3:32am

Degsy wrote: »

Well i personally dont think it works,at least not to the extent that justifies anything like its price tag.
.

Price tag, It's creatine one of the cheapest supps out there, like 10c serving or something. How much difference did you expect for 10c a pop? Surely anysort of impact is worth it.

tommy21 · 31-05-2011 12:00pm

d'Oracle wrote: »

In terms of protein content there are better powders out there.
I believe this because I stopped buying it and then bought one with better protein content according to the packaging, which is the plain whey powder from Myprotein.

Thanks for the response - yeah having looked at the protein content its poorer than many others so really they are all about the same price if they had equal protein. Will look out for Myprotein so, cheers.

RMD · 31-05-2011 12:25pm

yesbuddie wrote: »

Hi Guys...So I'm buying my first batch of Protein..Wondering can I get tips on which is a good brand to get?? Where is the best place to buy it?

Cheers

Go with Myprotein. Cheap and cheerful protein, does exactly what you want. Protein is protein, these super products that Maximuscle and the likes claim to produce are overpriced bull, so just go with something cheap and it will still do the same job. You can get 5 Kilos unflavoured for 53 quid, that will last you nearly 3 months assuming you take 2 scoops a day. Go with unflavoured, it's the best value and it isn't to bad. Just mix it 200-300ml of milk and down it.

http://www.myprotein.com/ie/products/impact-whey-protein

tommy21 · 31-05-2011 12:29pm

RMD wrote: »

Go with Myprotein. Cheap and cheerful protein, does exactly what you want. Protein is protein, these super products that Maximuscle and the likes claim to produce are overpriced bull, so just go with something cheap and it will still do the same job. You can get 5 Kilos unflavoured for 53 quid, that will last you nearly 3 months assuming you take 2 scoops a day. Go with unflavoured, it's the best value and it isn't to bad. Just mix it 200-300ml of milk and down it.

http://www.myprotein.com/ie/products/impact-whey-protein

Thanks, think I Might go with this too and test it out - got to be better than Holland and Barret's Precision Engineered! I presume the website has been ok for you in the past?

Gummy Panda · 31-05-2011 12:42pm

tommy21 wrote: »

Thanks, think I Might go with this too and test it out - got to be better than Holland and Barret's Precision Engineered! I presume the website has been ok for you in the past?

If you find the unflavoured whey bland, you can buy flavdrops from myprotein as well. Never tried them myself but I remember someone on nutrition and diet section use to put them in their oats.

Dathai · 31-05-2011 12:48pm

The flavdrops are quite good. You've to be careful how many you use or it will be too sweet.

yesbuddie · 31-05-2011 1:08pm

RMD wrote: »

Go with Myprotein. Cheap and cheerful protein, does exactly what you want. Protein is protein, these super products that Maximuscle and the likes claim to produce are overpriced bull, so just go with something cheap and it will still do the same job. You can get 5 Kilos unflavoured for 53 quid, that will last you nearly 3 months assuming you take 2 scoops a day. Go with unflavoured, it's the best value and it isn't to bad. Just mix it 200-300ml of milk and down it.

http://www.myprotein.com/ie/products/impact-whey-protein

Cool Thanks for that. Just 2 questions

Should I have it with water or milk? I was always under the impression that I should use water instead of milk. I remember someone saying I could put on weight if I use milk.

Also following on from that, is there any danger of putting on weight though using protein.

Finally, my sister is using a supplement from Holland & Barrett. She said it breaks up fat or something. Should I look at other supplements? Thinking of taking Omega 3 & get the necessary fats in !

tommy21 · 31-05-2011 1:19pm

yesbuddie wrote: »

Cool Thanks for that. Just 2 questions

Should I have it with water or milk? I was always under the impression that I should use water instead of milk. I remember someone saying I could put on weight if I use milk.

Also following on from that, is there any danger of putting on weight though using protein.

Finally, my sister is using a supplement from Holland & Barrett. She said it breaks up fat or something. Should I look at other supplements? Thinking of taking Omega 3 & get the necessary fats in !

While I do not have any great understanding, here is a link someone gave me the other day that explains things a bit better in terms of diet http://www.liamrosen.com/fitness.html#part3

Milk is better to use with protein (whey) if you consider the extra protein it adds - you could use low-fat/skim if your worried about fat content.

Do you want to lose weight or gain muscle or both? I do not think it is so much about doing weights/cardio flat out while not eating as much, but rather doing weights/cardio and eating right.

More experiences posters please feel free to pick apart.

RMD · 31-05-2011 2:27pm

tommy21 wrote: »

Thanks, think I Might go with this too and test it out - got to be better than Holland and Barret's Precision Engineered! I presume the website has been ok for you in the past?

Myprotein is a great website IMO. I usually make a weight gain shake from their various products (Whey, Oats and Creatine). For 100 quid I can get 2 months worth of whey, 1 and a half months worth of oats (using 200g a day) and a couple of months worth of creatine. If I was to buy known brands such as ON Supermass, I'd pay 105-120 quid for roughly 1 months worth of stuff If I take 1 serving a day, even though they recommend 2. It all does the same job so it's not necessary to buy pre-made mixes from big brands.

yesbuddie wrote: »

Cool Thanks for that. Just 2 questions

Should I have it with water or milk? I was always under the impression that I should use water instead of milk. I remember someone saying I could put on weight if I use milk.

Also following on from that, is there any danger of putting on weight though using protein.

Finally, my sister is using a supplement from Holland & Barrett. She said it breaks up fat or something. Should I look at other supplements? Thinking of taking Omega 3 & get the necessary fats in !

Personally I take it with milk as I find it gives a better taste and texture. Use water if you're watching your calorie in take, if you're trying to put on weight use milk. Milk wont have some super weight effect though, it's 42 calories per 100ml so 250ml added to a shake is only 105 calories.

Weight is put on purely through calorie in take. You can take 5 scoops of whey a day and not put on weight, or take 1 scoop and be putting on huge amounts of weight. It's purely down to your diet, not the supplements. Cut out any shíte and eat clean, you wont put on weight if you eat right. That said though, to gain muscle your must eat over your maintenance intake of calories, 200-400 calories is the recommended amount. This will give you a rough idea, mine is 2550 so I generally try to eat 2850-3000 calories a day. http://www.freedieting.com/tools/calorie_calculator.htm

I wouldn't look to much into supplements to be honest, they'll help but they're not superdrugs. The most recommended 3 are usually Whey, Creatine and a Multivitamin. You can take others if you wish, but they're not necessary.

yesbuddie · 31-05-2011 3:41pm

Thanks for the responses..

I actually have this "USN recovery Xcell" in the house. Its a sports recovery supplement that says a "blend of whey protein isolate, fast acting carbohydrates & nutrients for maximum muscle recovery"!

Would this be good to take as I want to increase my protein & 3 scoops (or 95g) of it is equal to 18.5g of protein.

Cheers

TommyKnocker · 31-05-2011 3:45pm

yesbuddie wrote: »

Thanks for the responses..

I actually have this "USN recovery Xcell" in the house. Its a sports recovery supplement that says a "blend of whey protein isolate, fast acting carbohydrates & nutrients for maximum muscle recovery"!

Would this be good to take as I want to increase my protein & 3 scoops (or 95g) of it is equal to 18.5g of protein.

Cheers

If 3 scoops (95g) is equal to only 18.5g of protein what is the Carb and Fat & total calorie content? 18.5g of protein from 95g of powder is not that big a return. YOu get a better protein return from a 130g tin of Tuna

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