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The car petrol and diesel thread....

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  • Registered Users Posts: 58 ✭✭deargas


    Storm 10 wrote: »
    deargas is your brother working in a branded petrol station or do they sell cheap diesel, as already said with a modern diesel engine with so much electronic parts fitted dont stray away for the saving of a few cents, as it will cost you big if anything goes wrong with the fuel system.


    That's the thing. He works in a branded station with a good reputation. He said the owner would never be knowingly bring in anything like washed diesel. The do too much trade as it is and he knows how a bad name can shaft the business.

    re: saving a few cents; Lesson Learnt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    No offence guys but can we keep this thread on prices around Galway.
    If you want to discuss diesel difficulties there's Motors forum.


  • Registered Users Posts: 58 ✭✭deargas


    Point taken Biko, but I stand by my original post. There's no use talking about the lowest price of fuel if the damned thing ends up ruining your engine because of inferior quality.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Unleaded 159.9 at Topaz yesterday.
    That's the highest I've ever seen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,209 ✭✭✭✭JohnCleary


    Cheapest place in the city at the moment anyone?

    Price of the stuff i'm afraid to fill up


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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,571 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    JohnCleary wrote: »
    Cheapest place in the city at the moment anyone?

    Price of the stuff i'm afraid to fill up
    155.9 for daysul out here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 535 ✭✭✭paulgalway


    snubbleste wrote: »
    Unleaded 159.9 at Topaz yesterday.
    That's the highest I've ever seen.

    Topaz in Bohermore €161.9 this evening.

    €159.9 at the Docks and €157.9 in Maxol in the westside.

    This is for Unleaded Petrol.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭Col200sx


    I filled up with diesel out the Headford Road on Saturday, can't think of the name, but the petrol station by the castle on the right, joined onto the exhaust place.

    But diesel there was 149.9, cheapest I've seen by 6c per litre.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,571 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    Col200sx wrote: »
    I filled up with diesel out the Headford Road on Saturday, can't think of the name, but the petrol station by the castle on the right, joined onto the exhaust place.

    But diesel there was 149.9, cheapest I've seen by 6c per litre.
    I really wouldn't recommend getting diesel there but caveat emptor and all that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,228 ✭✭✭Acidflash


    161.9 In Texaco Oranmore this morning. Dearest I've seen so far.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭Col200sx


    Robbo wrote: »
    I really wouldn't recommend getting diesel there but caveat emptor and all that.

    I'm not one to fill up in places that are said to be dodgy, are they considered to be?

    If so I'll avoid in future.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,571 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    Col200sx wrote: »
    I'm not one to fill up in places that are said to be dodgy, are they considered to be?

    If so I'll avoid in future.
    Previous management and there's a general history of the place with the Revenue.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭Col200sx


    Robbo wrote: »
    Previous management and there's a general history of the place with the Revenue.

    Cheers for that Robbo, hadn't realised.

    I won't be going back.


  • Registered Users Posts: 160 ✭✭extraice


    Col200sx wrote: »
    I filled up with diesel out the Headford Road on Saturday, can't think of the name, but the petrol station by the castle on the right, joined onto the exhaust place.

    But diesel there was 149.9, cheapest I've seen by 6c per litre.

    my mate cars is in u Rescu Towing place on headford rd after filling up at cheap station by the castle and say going to cost him lot ... not frist time been told stay away from there


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭Col200sx


    extraice wrote: »
    my mate cars is in u Rescu Towing place on headford rd after filling up at cheap station by the castle and say going to cost him lot ... not frist time been told stay away from there

    That's not good.

    I put €40 in, so on way home I'll fill up the rest in a reputable garage so it at least dilutes whatever potentially dodgy fuel, if any, went in.

    How can the place be still open if it's selling dodgy fuel? Especially if it's common knowledge to the public and the authorities?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Please stay away from implying that a certain garage is currently dodgy.
    It's a free market, use another garage if that feels safer.

    This thread is about local prices, let's stick to that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭Col200sx


    biko wrote: »
    Please stay away from implying that a certain garage is currently dodgy.
    It's a free market, use another garage if that feels safer.

    This thread is about local prices, let's stick to that.

    Fair enough. But I wasn't implying anything, it was suggested to me in previous posts that it may be.


  • Registered Users Posts: 332 ✭✭emptybladder


    161.9c for petrol now in Arch Motors. Holy fock!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 535 ✭✭✭paulgalway


    161.9c for petrol now in Arch Motors. Holy fock!
    Passed a few Topaz garages around town to-day, all have unleaded at €161.9, as is the garage at the docks.

    Think Maxol at the Westside is still a few cents cheaper.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,209 ✭✭✭✭JohnCleary


    Diesel was 153.9 at Corrib Oil, Tuam Rd today (21/02/2012)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 30 wes31


    what is going on with petrol station in gort on the ennis road are they not selling fuel any more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,741 ✭✭✭Irishgoatman


    Just a bit of advice.

    I have recently reported a certain petrol station in Claregalway to the authorities because:

    I put exactly 10 ltrs of petrol in my tank.
    Price on pump, and on board outside was 161.8 per ltr.
    "This Sale" shown on pump: 16.78 euro.

    I refused to pay that amount, told the lad manning pumps that I would be quite happy to make a call to the Gardia, he couldn't reach his boss so finally accepted my 16.18 euro, after I used the calculator in his hut to prove my figures.

    The moral of this is just put 10 ltrs in at a time because it's easy to see if the pumps are working correctly. (Just move the decimal point one place to the left on the listed price).

    Forgot to add that I took 'photos of the pump and board. so I do have proof positive of this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 709 ✭✭✭tracker-man


    Just a bit of advice.

    The moral of this is just put 10 ltrs in at a time because it's easy to see if the pumps are working correctly. (Just move the decimal point one place to the left on the listed price).

    Very good advice, I always only fill up to a round litre. 10 or 20 litres. Its easier to see the difference in garage to garage too, if there is any. I predict Petrol will be at 2 euro by the end of the year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,454 ✭✭✭Blondie919


    wes31 wrote: »
    what is going on with petrol station in gort on the ennis road are they not selling fuel any more.

    Are you talking about the one that used to sell cheap petrol and diesel which is not far from the Lady Gregory hotel? If you are, then that place got shut down because AFAIK it was selling illegal fuel. I did get petrol there a couple of times but it wasn't clean petrol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭skelliser


    Petrol in the topaz in kilcolgan is 163.9!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 336 ✭✭TheRealSquishy


    Topaz at the the Bodkin roundabout is 163.9 too today. Not a bloody chance!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 100 ✭✭alandublin33


    155.9 for diesel in Jones oil in the wesht


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Topaz Newcastle unleaded 163.9


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭200yrolecrank


    Robbo wrote: »
    Col200sx wrote: »
    I filled up with diesel out the Headford Road on Saturday, can't think of the name, but the petrol station by the castle on the right, joined onto the exhaust place.

    But diesel there was 149.9, cheapest I've seen by 6c per litre.
    I really wouldn't recommend getting diesel there but caveat emptor and all that.
    I've been filling there regularly and a few weeks back my emissions symbol on the car flagged up the car wouldn't start for a while after,I think you could have something here.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 336 ✭✭TheRealSquishy


    Ended up in the red today and had to get petrol here after all
    Topaz at the the Bodkin roundabout is 163.9 too today. Not a bloody chance!

    So after reading someones post in here about being overcharged I stopped at 10 litres purely out of curiously and it cost 16.41.

    In fairness it's only 2 tenths of a cent over but out of principle I told yerman behind the register when I was paying. Got the reply 'yeah what do you want me to do about it?'. Nice sh*t! After handing over 50 quid and that's the attitude, never again!

    I didn't see the price below 163.9 anywhere until I got to Clare again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,741 ✭✭✭Irishgoatman


    Ended up in the red today and had to get petrol here after all



    So after reading someones post in here about being overcharged I stopped at 10 litres purely out of curiously and it cost 16.41.

    In fairness it's only 2 tenths of a cent over but out of principle I told yerman behind the register when I was paying. Got the reply 'yeah what do you want me to do about it?'. Nice sh*t! After handing over 50 quid and that's the attitude, never again!

    I didn't see the price below 163.9 anywhere until I got to Clare again.

    Actually you were overcharged by 2 cents not 2 tenths of a cent.
    Multiply that by the amount of fuel the garage sells in a week/month/year and the garage is robbing people of a nice sum of money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,634 ✭✭✭jenno86


    Actually you were overcharged by 2 cents not 2 tenths of a cent.
    Multiply that by the amount of fuel the garage sells in a week/month/year and the garage is robbing people of a nice sum of money.

    161.9 in Emo and Top in Salthill. Thats what it was 2 days ago anyway!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭yer man!


    Why is fuel cheaper in dublin and cork? diesel is 154.9 in most places around there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭Unrealistic


    So after reading someones post in here about being overcharged I stopped at 10 litres purely out of curiously and it cost 16.41.

    In fairness it's only 2 tenths of a cent over but out of principle I told yerman behind the register when I was paying. Got the reply 'yeah what do you want me to do about it?'. Nice sh*t! After handing over 50 quid and that's the attitude, never again!
    Actually you were overcharged by 2 cents not 2 tenths of a cent.
    Multiply that by the amount of fuel the garage sells in a week/month/year and the garage is robbing people of a nice sum of money.
    I don't see how you work out anyone is being ripped off in this situation? The OP stopped when the pump showed 10 litres. Presuming, like most pumps in Ireland it displays to the nearest 10ml it, the display actually read 10.00 litres. But, because the display only shows you two decimal places the 10.00 actually means the range from 10.0000-10.0099. And the price over that range is €16.39 if you got exactly 10.0000; €16.40 if you get 10.0032 litres or €16.41 if you got 10.0092. So three different prices, all accurate, and all while the display reads 10.00 litres. If it were more than €0.02 absolute difference (like your earlier post) then that would be proof there is something suspicious but, on the basis of the information given, there isn't necessarily anything untoward going on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭ladhrann


    Petrol 157.9 in Ballindine, if anyone is heading to Sligo or Mayo.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 614 ✭✭✭aido76


    Petrol 161.9, Diesel is 157.9 in Glynns opposite Airport. Cheapest I have seen around Galway in the last week :(


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    aido76 wrote: »
    Petrol 161.9, Diesel is 157.9 in Glynns opposite Airport. Cheapest I have seen around Galway in the last week :(

    they are only that cheap because of yer man up at Grealishes who is usually a cent cheaper

    If it wasnt for him, you can be sure they'd be the same as the rest


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,741 ✭✭✭Irishgoatman


    I don't see how you work out anyone is being ripped off in this situation? The OP stopped when the pump showed 10 litres. Presuming, like most pumps in Ireland it displays to the nearest 10ml it, the display actually read 10.00 litres. But, because the display only shows you two decimal places the 10.00 actually means the range from 10.0000-10.0099. And the price over that range is €16.39 if you got exactly 10.0000; €16.40 if you get 10.0032 litres or €16.41 if you got 10.0092. So three different prices, all accurate, and all while the display reads 10.00 litres. If it were more than €0.02 absolute difference (like your earlier post) then that would be proof there is something suspicious but, on the basis of the information given, there isn't necessarily anything untoward going on.

    I would agree with you except for the fact that at the garage which I usually use in Ballindine, which a poster has mentioned, is not only cheaper but their pumps read spot on to the cent.
    If they can do it so can others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 917 ✭✭✭The Nutty M


    I don't see how you work out anyone is being ripped off in this situation? The OP stopped when the pump showed 10 litres. Presuming, like most pumps in Ireland it displays to the nearest 10ml it, the display actually read 10.00 litres. But, because the display only shows you two decimal places the 10.00 actually means the range from 10.0000-10.0099. And the price over that range is €16.39 if you got exactly 10.0000; €16.40 if you get 10.0032 litres or €16.41 if you got 10.0092. So three different prices, all accurate, and all while the display reads 10.00 litres. If it were more than €0.02 absolute difference (like your earlier post) then that would be proof there is something suspicious but, on the basis of the information given, there isn't necessarily anything untoward going on.

    Why if as you say pumps read to the nearest 10ml are you using measures of 4 decimal places and not 3?I'm bamboozled:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,209 ✭✭✭✭JohnCleary


    165.9 / l Petrol at O' Connors Garage, Cong today.... :eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭Unrealistic


    Why if as you say pumps read to the nearest 10ml are you using measures of 4 decimal places and not 3?I'm bamboozled:confused:
    Pumps display to two decimal places but they read more accurately than that. If they only counted on the basis of what they displayed then the counter that shows the amount you should pay would jump in increments of €0.01639. For example, it would jump from €0.00 to €0.02 (10ml/0.01 litres) then €0.03 (20ml/0.02 litres), €0.05 (30ml/0.03 litres) etc. But it doesn't do that. It climbs smoothly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,741 ✭✭✭Irishgoatman


    Pumps display to two decimal places but they read more accurately than that. If they only counted on the basis of what they displayed then the counter that shows the amount you should pay would jump in increments of €0.01639. For example, it would jump from €0.00 to €0.02 (10ml/0.01 litres) then €0.03 (20ml/0.02 litres), €0.05 (30ml/0.03 litres) etc. But it doesn't do that. It climbs smoothly.

    This is all very well, but you are going off track slightly. If I put in 10 ltrs @ 161.8 cents per ltr, which I did, I don't be expected to be asked to pay more than 16.18 euro which I was. I was asked to pay 16.78 euro, which I refused to pay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,734 ✭✭✭zarquon


    This is all very well, but you are going off track slightly. If I put in 10 ltrs @ 161.8 cents per ltr, which I did, I don't be expected to be asked to pay more than 16.18 euro which I was. I was asked to pay 16.78 euro, which I refused to pay.

    You were definitely over charged but the post above is not going off track. It is simple mathematics. 10.00999999999 litres of fuel would still cost €16.34 and this would register as 10 litres exactly on the pump. If you were charged between €16.18 and €16.34 you would not be overcharged but in this case you were overcharged by at least 44 cent or 4.4 cent per litre. As a rule of thumb for 10 litres of fuel allow for an overall rounding discrepancy of 10% of the per litre cost.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,741 ✭✭✭Irishgoatman


    zarquon wrote: »
    You were definitely over charged but the post above is not going off track. It is simple mathematics. 10.00999999999 litres of fuel would still cost €16.34 and this would register as 10 litres exactly on the pump. If you were charged between €16.18 and €16.34 you would not be overcharged but in this case you were overcharged by at least 44 cent or 4.4 cent per litre. As a rule of thumb for 10 litres of fuel allow for an overall rounding discrepancy of 10% of the per litre cost.

    I fully understand the mathematics as I spent many years working in accounts and statistics offices, my point is that the pumps should be accurate to the number of decimal point shown on the pump which is 2.

    If someone would tell be how to insert a 'photo of the pump in question I will do so as I took one at the time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 193 ✭✭cyberblade 918c


    ladhrann wrote: »
    Petrol 157.9 in Ballindine, if anyone is heading to Sligo or Mayo.

    Noticed that myself - now I know its just over the Mayo border - but yet in milltown last week end petrol was 1.63.9 - which I thought was nuts as Ballindine is only about 5 miles away:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,741 ✭✭✭Irishgoatman


    Noticed that myself - now I know its just over the Mayo border - but yet in milltown last week end petrol was 1.63.9 - which I thought was nuts as Ballindine is only about 5 miles away:rolleyes:

    And the pumps are accurate. I live near there.

    Here's a picture of the faulty (?) pump in Claregalway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 301 ✭✭Bozacke


    Hi Goatman,,
    Well there's only one Petrol station in Claregalway, so this makes it easy. Although I drive by it everyday, I never stop there unless I'm desperate since they are always several cents per litre more than almost everywhere else. Now after reading your story I'll certainly never go there. I always stop at 10L whenever I'm pumping petrol for a reality check and I've been doing it for years and I've never seen any mismatch, so I suspect this pump wasn't wrong by accident, if it was an accident there would be a fifty/fifty chance you'd be under charged, but that never happens.

    I hope you have reported this to the authorities, I'm sure most people don't do a pump calibration, so who knows how long they've been overcharging and this should be reported.

    Thanks for posting and the photo! Maybe this will make more people vigilant at the pumps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,741 ✭✭✭Irishgoatman


    Bozacke wrote: »
    Hi Goatman,,
    Well there's only one Petrol station in Claregalway, so this makes it easy. Although I drive by it everyday, I never stop there unless I'm desperate since they are always several cents per litre more than almost everywhere else. Now after reading your story I'll certainly never go there. I always stop at 10L whenever I'm pumping petrol for a reality check and I've been doing it for years and I've never seen any mismatch, so I suspect this pump wasn't wrong by accident, if it was an accident there would be a fifty/fifty chance you'd be under charged, but that never happens.

    I hope you have reported this to the authorities, I'm sure most people don't do a pump calibration, so who knows how long they've been overcharging and this should be reported.

    Thanks for posting and the photo! Maybe this will make more people vigilant at the pumps.

    Thanks for this.
    Yes I did report it to the National Consumer Agency, and they were very interested. And as I said in an earlier post, I argued with the guy at the pumps and only paid what it should have been not what the pump said.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Unleaded now 164.9 at Topaz(plural) in town


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,741 ✭✭✭Irishgoatman


    Ballindine (yes I know it's in Mayo) as of yesterday still 157.9


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